Question for the US: how are you all so calm about long-term freezing?

[Mara_aa]

Solar power cell bank. A backup power supply for when you need it. Like Jackery or another cheaper brand if needed. If you're super paranoid, get some panels you could set up as well to recharge the charger.

That actually sounds like a good apartment-friendly option, a helpful backup!

 

[Lear00]

Thinking of stocking up for a few years myself. Primary concern would be RT getting significantly cheaper once FDA approved (with no meaningful halt on grey importation as speculated by some here) and secondary concern there being a new peptide in a year that’s twice as good as what we have now with even less side effects.

 

[Mara_aa]

UPDATE: YOU CONVINCED ME - LESS PANIC, MORE STASH

I have to say, I really appreciated all the suggestions and perspectives here, this turned out way more helpful (and entertaining) than I expected.

So, once shipping resumes, I’ve decided I will build a bit of a stash (sorry to those who disagree… and to the aliens ).

And no, thankfully this isn’t about budget (and I truly hope it stays that way, given the times)… though I can’t promise there isn’t a bit of laziness or insecurity in the mix.

The reality for me is that here in Italy I no longer have access to mounjaro, since I don’t have diabetes and I’m no longer classified as obese.

So yes… I’ve reached the stage where I genuinely bless the grey… and to be honest, not giving Lily my money anymore isn’t the heartbreaking loss one might imagine. I’m sleeping beautifully.

That said, I’m not planning for years and years, I’d much rather hope that research moves faster than the ThrustSSC and that in a few years we’ll have even better molecules available.

I genuinely hope that for everyone who needs this, and for those who will in the future, things keep improving, so life can be a little easier, at least on this front.

Thanks again to all of you, you are great and beautiful

 

[Mara_aa]

Thinking of stocking up for a few years myself. Primary concern would be RT getting significantly cheaper once FDA approved (with no meaningful halt on grey importation as speculated by some here) and secondary concern there being a new peptide in a year that’s twice as good as what we have now with even less side effects.

That’s kind of what I was thinking too

 

[woundcarping]

That’s a pretty narrow take people’s reasons aren’t always that simple!

I think you missed the punchline, although I’ve been wrong before.

 

[CallieKat]

I have reconstituted over 2 years frozen tirz and it worked…

 

[woundcarping]

For hoarding, or not hoarding? I have a bunch, and I've enjoyed buying it. I for one have a hard time passing up great prices. Just did 2 GB for 5 kits of Reta, as you know it'll likely be 8 weeks or so till I see the stuff with GBs.

Did you miss the punchline also?

I’m 40 next month, Ai suggests with my blood work, Dexa scans, bp monitoring, etc, I’m on track to make it to 85-92.

I need to buy another decade to be covered to the high side estimate at max trial dosing .

I may have some consumption variables coming that will better rationalize my supply.

 

[Mara_aa]

I think you missed the punchline, although I’ve been wrong before.

Oh no, I don’t think so, I actually liked your comment and even referenced it in my update.

It’s much more likely that my reply didn’t come across very well in English

 

[Mara_aa]

Did you miss the punchline also?

I’m 40 next month, Ai suggests with my blood work, Dexa scans, bp monitoring, etc, I’m on track to make it to 85-92.

I need to buy another decade to be covered to the high side estimate at max trial dosing .

I may have some consumption variables coming that will better rationalize my supply.

That’s some serious long-term planning but I’d probably factor in a potential upgrade to 100 just to be safe, applying the same margin from 85→92 to 92→100 feels only reasonable and properly cautious

 

[Labcat]

Freeze thaw instability is really about recon’d peptides, and mostly for non tirz. Lyophilized peps don’t change phase in and out of freezer so they don’t stress the molecules

 

[amosmylove]

Well, at least that’s one problem I don’t have

Lucky. My kids have been hanging out in the freezer for popscicles several times a day. Times five kids. I need to move my peps to my basement meat freezer. It gets opened a few times a week.

 

[Hambocommando]

Lucky. My kids have been hanging out in the freezer for popscicles several times a day. Times five kids. I need to move my peps to my basement meat freezer. It gets opened a few times a week.

Just put the kids in the freezer. Problem solved! I....obviously don't have kids....

 

[amosmylove]

Just put the kids in the freezer. Problem solved! I....obviously don't have kids....

ugh...I have to be careful making jokes about kids. I don't want to be reported. These days people are such snowflakes. I had ten different fabulous responses to your comment! Lol

I had cps show up at my house because I let my 6 year old cross our rural country road to get the mail. A Karen drove by, stopped and came up to me fuming. A week later cps shows up. They could tell right away that we were a waste of their time but still had to follow up. Didn't even open a case though and ended by asking us to consider signing up for foster care. People are idiots these days.

 

[Mara_aa]

Lucky. My kids have been hanging out in the freezer for popscicles several times a day. Times five kids. I need to move my peps to my basement meat freezer. It gets opened a few times a week.

Five kids… that freezer never stood a chance ‍

 

[Mara_aa]

Freeze thaw instability is really about recon’d peptides, and mostly for non tirz. Lyophilized peps don’t change phase in and out of freezer so they don’t stress the molecules

Definitely, that’s more relevant for reconstituted but I don’t really see myself freezing reconstituted vials.

By the way, what’s the name of that beautiful ginger cat in your avatar? Is it a gentleman or a lady? I want to publicly confess that I’m completely cat-dependent

 

[MG9550]

I keep my vials in the freezer inside an insulated bag with some ice blocks and a lot of silica gel packs. Provided the freezer isn't open during a power outage, they should be fine for a while.

 

[Mara_aa]

I keep my vials in the freezer inside an insulated bag with some ice blocks and a lot of silica gel packs. Provided the freezer isn't open during a power outage, they should be fine for a while.

That sounds like a solid setup. I’m definitely feeling more relaxed about it now lol

 

[BNLFL]

Did you miss the punchline also?

I’m 40 next month, Ai suggests with my blood work, Dexa scans, bp monitoring, etc, I’m on track to make it to 85-92.

I need to buy another decade to be covered to the high side estimate at max trial dosing .

I may have some consumption variables coming that will better rationalize my supply.

I did, and should've known better knowing you.

Oh, do tell on that last part.

 

[woundcarping]

I did, and should've known better knowing you. View attachment 20475

Oh, do tell on that last part.

Can’t ever tell what opportunities will come along… but if they do I reckon I want to be ready.

 

[Labcat]

Definitely, that’s more relevant for reconstituted but I don’t really see myself freezing reconstituted vials.

By the way, what’s the name of that beautiful ginger cat in your avatar? Is it a gentleman or a lady? I want to publicly confess that I’m completely cat-dependent

That cat is Bacon! He’s a larger sized ginger who chose us about 10 years ago. Cats are my weakness too