Question for the US: how are you all so calm about long-term freezing?

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I think people might have misread my post, or misread the intentions of my post. Most people have replied to is justifying why they take peptides and their reason for that - I'm not questioning that whatsoever, at all, I'm taking them myself. I was curious why people buy years and years worth when they have been so easily accessible for such a long time and seem continue to be so, or is that not the case?.
 
mrmors said:
I think people might have misread my post, or misread the intentions of my post. Most people have replied to is justifying why they take peptides and their reason for that - I'm not questioning that whatsoever, at all, I'm taking them myself. I was curious why people buy years and years worth when they have been so easily accessible for such a long time and continue to be so.
Because the future is unclear. One of the big concerns that crosses my mind is Eli Lilly who developed Retatrutide. They're getting close to final FDA approval and no one (me) is sure what they might do to corner the market. They're a very large company and I'm sure could influence people in political power to somehow clamp down. Also, seeing some signs lately of customs crackdowns, mainly China right now also throws some concerns. Even one of the main guys I was getting stuff from has had big orders seized in China. I think there was recently here in the US. MY wife and I want to stay on this stuff even after our goals are meet. This is all just MY OPINION, so take it for what it's worth. I know quite a few members here that feel the same. My .02.
 
mrmors said:
I think people might have misread my post, or misread the intentions of my post. Most people have replied to is justifying why they take peptides and their reason for that - I'm not questioning that whatsoever, at all, I'm taking them myself. I was curious why people buy years and years worth when they have been so easily accessible for such a long time and seem continue to be so, or is that not the case?.
I’m not sure that they will always be available in the future the way they are now.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has spoken out against the Grey market repeatedly. There’s a drive to reclassify 14 currently restricted peptides.

Some vendors are gone, and we are in a period of regulatory crackdowns involving customs enforcement and the FDA.
 
mrmors said:
I think people might have misread my post, or misread the intentions of my post. Most people have replied to is justifying why they take peptides and their reason for that - I'm not questioning that whatsoever, at all, I'm taking them myself. I was curious why people buy years and years worth when they have been so easily accessible for such a long time and seem continue to be so, or is that not the case?.
Like others have said - we don't know the future, but we do know we want (actually need) these GLPx peptides because they fixed something that was inherently and evolutionary wrong with us. We have food noise and constant hunger when we don't need to in the here and now. Our bodies won't suddenly fix it themselves, so these drugs - or others like them down the line - are non negotiable for our health and happiness.

That said, if we have the funds and resources now to get them at reasonable prices, what would stop us from doing so? There may be better drugs in the future, or these drugs could end up being OTC right next to heartburn medicine. But since we don't know, why take the chance?
 
Smiter said:
Ah, food noise. I'm so acquainted with that bad boy. Well, 'Atomic Habits' may have a solution there. Building and stacking little changes over time while the peptides are on, and using brain chemistry with habit formation mechanics, to do the work. After all, none of us were born with the food noise programming. If hormones and chemicals can work one way, shouldn't they work the other way around as well? It's the principle driving evolution, right? Oh, and while it sounds theoretically indisputable, I wholeheartedly admit I wouldn't be saying that if there weren't appetite-suppressing fat burners out there. The Ephedra-caffeine-Tesofensine-Nootropics- bonanza offers so many options.
That makes sense, building habits over time is definitely the right approach.

I’ll work on that… as long as that bad boy of my food noise cooperates lol
 
spyke65 said:
I’m not going to sweat the brief power outages that occur more frequently. As long as the food in my freezer is still frozen, I’m sure the peptides are as well. A full freezer with good seals can maintain below freezing temps for a couple days. Half full only stays frozen for a day. It’s long-term outages that are more of a concern. Typically, that’s either a really bad winter storm or a hurricane. For a winter storm, my backup plan is outdoor storage. For a hurricane, ice or generator. Blocks of use last longer than cubes.

For any other catastrophic disasters, I’m thinking I have a much bigger issue than losing my 7 year stash.
That sounds like a solid plan.

And yes… if it gets to that point, I probably have bigger problems than my stash
 
Turbo-Farmer said:
If you have a little freezer and pack it with frozen water jugs. You should be ok for a few days. I live in the country and have a large deep freezer that was still below freezing after losing power for 2 days.
That’s reassuring, the frozen water jugs part is definitely doable for me, thanks!
 
mrmors said:
Why do people hoard several years worth of peptides? Especially one mainly focused on weight loss? Are people needing to be on them for multiple years at a time to hit the goals? Or is this a preppers thing where they think the aliens might be coming, and when they do, they'll pile the weight on, and will have no way to order from China as the aliens will be doing their own customs checks?
Probably a mix of both… with a slight tendency toward the alien scenario 🤷‍♀️
 
Mara_aa said:
That makes sense, building habits over time is definitely the right approach.

I’ll work on that… as long as that bad boy of my food noise cooperates lol

Mara_aa said:
That sounds like a solid plan.

And yes… if it gets to that point, I probably have bigger problems than my stash

Mara_aa said:
Guess I won’t be worrying anytime soon then 🙄

Mara_aa said:
That’s reassuring, the frozen water jugs part is definitely doable for me, thanks!

Mara_aa said:
Probably a mix of both… with a slight tendency toward the alien scenario 🤷‍♀️

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tubby said:
Let me throw out some food for thought that may help you rationalize this:
That’s actually really helpful, makes it much easier to rationalize, thanks!! 🫶
 
woundcarping said:
The only viable reasons I can come up with for people hoarding years of peptides is due to uncertainty, laziness, or economic disability…. With the smallest amount of commitment to the game, they should be siting on decades of supply.
That’s a pretty narrow take 😄 people’s reasons aren’t always that simple!
 
anhydrous said:
We have found the solution, we have the disposable income, and we are supremely optimistic.

Definitely all of the above. We have found the solution, we have the disposable income, and we are supremely optimistic. Even if this stuff ends up turning into sawdust in 5-10 years we'll just order 5 years worth of GLP4 or whatever the new next best thing is.
That does sound like a pretty powerful combination 😄
 
MsGizmo said:
but seriously .. is it going to make that big of a difference if your GLP1 is suddenly 10% weaker?
You’re all definitely reassuring me at this point 🫶
 
woundcarping said:
The only viable reasons I can come up with for people hoarding years of peptides is due to uncertainty, laziness, or economic disability…. With the smallest amount of commitment to the game, they should be siting on decades of supply.
For hoarding, or not hoarding? I have a bunch, and I've enjoyed buying it. I for one have a hard time passing up great prices. Just did 2 GB for 5 kits of Reta, as you know it'll likely be 8 weeks or so till I see the stuff with GBs.
 
Mara_aa said:
The setup is a really good suggestion and something I could definitely adopt.

The generator isn’t really an option for me, I live in an apartment building in the city and it wouldn’t be allowed.
Solar power cell bank. A backup power supply for when you need it. Like Jackery or another cheaper brand if needed. If you're super paranoid, get some panels you could set up as well to recharge the charger.
 
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