Question for the US: how are you all so calm about long-term freezing?

[Rolltide61]

So basically… reliable, but not exactly future-proof lol

 

[Airborne Daddy]

That makes sense, but for how long would they realistically stay good if temperatures fluctuate over time, like between winter and summer?

If you dont have children and grandchildren in and out the fridge/freezer 40 times a day ur good..... a dedicated freezer for beef, chicken and peptides is never a bad idea.

 

[deluge]

So really: what’s the plan?

Backup power? Temperature alarms? Blind faith?

I suppose our grid is pretty reliable here. In the past 50 years, I've seen one power outage of 5 hours in length, and one, state-wide, that lasted 20 hours. All the others have been less than an hour or two in length.

Multi-tiered approach. Peptides in a Hydrapeak, in the freezer. I have no doubt that a 5 hour outage would not raise the peptides above freezing inside that.

Temperature alarms, wifi enabled, push notifications and emails to 2 separate accounts.

Beyond that, backup generator.

(I did help a friend deal with a 36 hour power outage once. Local issue, confined to just his house; power pole hit by a car directly in front of his house.)

 

[Smiter]

I would look at it in two ways. Number 1 and foremost. I am taking these peptides to get to a stage where I will no longer need them; thus, if I have to store them for years of future use, then that's a fail in my book. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, given the speed of advancements, it's quite likely that within a few years, far more advanced products will hit the market, and worse, issues with existing products might come to light.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

If I still have kilos to lose, I’m definitely keeping the Tirz… sorry Chef Boyardee

Jano said tirz is the cockroach of glp1s.... id hope reta and sema arent far behind. He also tested 9 year old hgh found in a garage that had minimal degradation, but manufacturers will tell you otherwise.

 

[Calm Logic]

Jano said tirz is the cockroach of glp1s.... id hope reta and sema arent far behind. He also tested 9 year old hgh found in a garage that had minimal degradation, but manufacturers will tell you otherwise.

Sema should be even more roachy than tirz since it's a simpler, more robust structure:

Feature Semaglutide (Sema) Tirzepatide (Tirz) Retatrutide (Reta) Agonist Type Single (GLP-1) Dual (GLP-1 + GIP) Triple (GLP/GIP/GCG) Chain Length 31 AAs (Shortest) 39 AAs 39 AAs Fatty Acid Link Single C18 Double C20 Single C20 Structure Linear (Simple) Branched Chimeric (Complex) Freeze Resilience Highest (Tardigrade) High (Cockroach) Lower (Sports Car)

 

[CandyCap]

My sister lives out of town, and she loses power for days at a time in the winter.

We are in town, and have lost power maybe 3 times in the last 5 years. Never more than 2 or 3 hours at a time. I don't worry too much about it.

 

[woundcarping]

Peps in a thermos in a cooler with thermal mass in a freezer with thermal mass is pretty robust, if you’re into that kinda thing.

A generator to run a freezer is cheap, enough generator to run the house isn’t practically that expensive.

 

[Mara_aa]

If you dont have children and grandchildren in and out the fridge/freezer 40 times a day ur good..... a dedicated freezer for beef, chicken and peptides is never a bad idea.

Well, at least that’s one problem I don’t have

 

[Mara_aa]

I suppose our grid is pretty reliable here. In the past 50 years, I've seen one power outage of 5 hours in length, and one, state-wide, that lasted 20 hours. All the others have been less than an hour or two in length.

Multi-tiered approach. Peptides in a Hydrapeak, in the freezer. I have no doubt that a 5 hour outage would not raise the peptides above freezing inside that.

Temperature alarms, wifi enabled, push notifications and emails to 2 separate accounts.

Beyond that, backup generator.

(I did help a friend deal with a 36 hour power outage once. Local issue, confined to just his house; power pole hit by a car directly in front of his house.)

That’s quite a setup, definitely more advanced than “hope for the best” approach

I live in an apartment, so having a generator isn’t really an option.

Honestly, that’s the kind of setup that would let me sleep peacefully lol

 

[deluge]

That’s quite a setup, definitely more advanced than “hope for the best” approach

I live in an apartment, so having a generator isn’t really an option.

Honestly, that’s the kind of setup that would let me sleep peacefully lol

The wifi thermometers are pretty cheap. Having a backup plan would be prudent too. A friend or two in another part of the city, whose power might not be interrupted?

In any event, Peter Magic's interview seemed to pretty much disprove the necessity of freezing, even when looking for years of storage. I just do it as an extra precaution.

 

[Mara_aa]

I would look at it in two ways. Number 1 and foremost. I am taking these peptides to get to a stage where I will no longer need them; thus, if I have to store them for years of future use, then that's a fail in my book. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, given the speed of advancements, it's quite likely that within a few years, far more advanced products will hit the market, and worse, issues with existing products might come to light.

I see your point, I agree with the second part and I’m trusting it’ll play out that way.

The first one… my food noise strongly disagrees lol

 

[Mara_aa]

Jano said tirz is the cockroach of glp1s.... id hope reta and sema arent far behind. He also tested 9 year old hgh found in a garage that had minimal degradation, but manufacturers will tell you otherwise.

That's oddly reassuring, I'II take that!

 

[Mara_aa]

My sister lives out of town, and she loses power for days at a time in the winter.

We are in town, and have lost power maybe 3 times in the last 5 years. Never more than 2 or 3 hours at a time. I don't worry too much about it.

Sounds like city life has its advantages!

 

[5byfive]

Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, given the speed of , it's quite likely that within a few years, far more advanced products will hit the market, and worse, issues with existing products might come to light.

 

[Mara_aa]

Peps in a thermos in a cooler with thermal mass in a freezer with thermal mass is pretty robust, if you’re into that kinda thing.

A generator to run a freezer is cheap, enough generator to run the house isn’t practically that expensive.

The setup is a really good suggestion and something I could definitely adopt.

The generator isn’t really an option for me, I live in an apartment building in the city and it wouldn’t be allowed.

 

[Mara_aa]

The wifi thermometers are pretty cheap. Having a backup plan would be prudent too. A friend or two in another part of the city, whose power might not be interrupted?

In any event, Peter Magic's interview seemed to pretty much disprove the necessity of freezing, even when looking for years of storage. I just do it as an extra precaution.

That makes sense, the wifi thermometers and having a backup plan are great ideas.

I could probably sort something locally if needed.

And good to know about freezing too, reassuring that it’s more of an extra precaution.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

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Genius... ive said this.... in 4 or 5 years, our shit will be obsolete. Im certain of this.

 

[woundcarping]

The setup is a really good suggestion and something I could definitely adopt.

The generator isn’t really an option for me, I live in an apartment building in the city and it wouldn’t be allowed.

Water is pretty easy thermal mass in terms of availability and conforming to wasted space. Gotta plan around it melting/what contains it.

 

[Mara_aa]

Water is pretty easy thermal mass in terms of availability and conforming to wasted space. Gotta plan around it melting/what contains it.

Got it, that actually makes a lot of sense. Thanks, I appreciate it!