Food Noise vs Hunger — How do you tell the Difference?

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For me it lines up with what a few people have said. Hunger feels physical, food noise feels more like seeking.

If it’s real hunger, I notice actual body cues like an empty stomach or low energy, and pretty much any normal food sounds fine. Once I eat, that feeling goes away.

Food noise is more the constant mental pull or thinking about what’s next, even after eating. It’s usually specific cravings and doesn’t really switch off.

Since being on GLPs the biggest difference has just been the quiet. I spend a lot less time thinking about food, so when something does come up now it’s much easier to recognise it as real hunger.
 
Grogu said:
With these medications, It can be difficult at times to differentiate between food noise and actual hunger. I think it’s partly because with the quieting of food noise when our body sends hunger signals, we think that the medication isn’t working or that it’s just food noise returning.

The first thing I do is think about when my last meal or snack was. If it’s longer than 3 to 5 hours, I then think about if my body has any physical symptoms of hunger (headache, grumbling stomach, low energy). If it appears that it might be actually hunger, I think about the healthiest thing I have in the house to eat. If that sounds good, then I feed myself something healthy. If the food doesn’t sound tempting or if I’m experiencing a tigger (stress, boredom, etc.) I usually wait a few minutes so see if the feeling passes.

I figure that if I eat the healthiest thing in the house, what’s the worst thing? I gave my body something good.
That’s a great framework, especially using time + physical symptoms to separate the two. I like the “would I eat something healthy?” check.

That’s a solid filter!

Have you noticed over time that your ability to tell the difference gets sharper, or do you still second-guess it sometimes? And do certain triggers (like stress or boredom) still sneak past that system for you?

P.S. I have started noticing the (headaches, grumbling stomach, low energy) after 3-5 hours. This is a huge help for me to help identify that I need to at least slam some protein. However, I probably need to be more proactive and catch it before it starts.
 
Danger1212 said:
Before GLPs I thought I was hungry all the time. But looking back… I think a lot of it was just food noise.

I could eat a full meal and still be thinking about what was next. Not physically hungry, just always wanting something.

Now I’m starting to notice a difference, but I’m still trying to figure out where that line is between real hunger and just mental cravings.

How do you guys tell the difference?
This question hits such a sensitive spot for me that I already know my answer is going to be the boring one in the thread lol.

For context: I basically worship Tirz. I love it, I adore it, I would build a tiny shrine for it if that didn’t make me sound unwell. And yes, I live in constant terror that one day it might stop working. My coping strategy is telling myself that GLP‑1 research is exploding and there will always be new molecules to jump to.

Science, please don’t abandon me.

I’ve had food noise for years ( not BED), I didn’t even know it had a name. I used to call it “emotional hunger”, which sounds poetic until you realise it’s basically your brain running a 24/7 food‑themed Netflix autoplay.

It shows up whenever I can’t manage pain, stress, boredom, frustration, or any negative emotion.

For me it looked like:

thinking about what I could eat, what I could cook, what I could buy, which restaurant I could escape to…

And of course, eating didn’t fix anything, satisfaction is brief, and fullness lasts minutes.

Real hunger is different. It’s physical, it’s calm, it doesn’t demand a Michelin-starred experience. And once I’m full, I’m done, no sequel, no post‑credits scene.

The first time I tried Tirz, it shut off the food noise completely.

I spent days listening in fear for the moment it would come back, like a horror movie villain.

It didn’t. I felt like someone had lifted a curse.

My first words were literally: I’m never stopping this medication.

So yeah… that’s how I tell the difference. For me it’s not subtle at all, it’s two completely different worlds.
 
BNLFL said:
I pin Fridays, and can tell a slight difference Thursday dinner time I'm a tad more hungry.
I'd like to add to this. I've read, Reta has half life of 6 days or so. Basically wearing off I assume. That's maybe the difference on Thursdays. Not there on Friday, because that's the blast the belly day. One more thing as just a FYI in my opinion. Sometimes when I recon a new vial from someone new, or a different size from the same person, It hits harder. In other words, more appetite suppression and some heartburn that night. Only lasts a day.

This has been another chapter from insight from a Newb.
 
Danger1212 said:
Before GLPs I thought I was hungry all the time. But looking back… I think a lot of it was just food noise.

I could eat a full meal and still be thinking about what was next. Not physically hungry, just always wanting something.

Now I’m starting to notice a difference, but I’m still trying to figure out where that line is between real hunger and just mental cravings.

How do you guys tell the difference?
I can honestly say that I do not get hungry. I just eat because the clock says its time or because I'm bored. I could go all day and not be hungry or I can eat all day and not be full.
 
Danger1212 said:
Before GLPs I thought I was hungry all the time. But looking back… I think a lot of it was just food noise.

I could eat a full meal and still be thinking about what was next. Not physically hungry, just always wanting something.

Now I’m starting to notice a difference, but I’m still trying to figure out where that line is between real hunger and just mental cravings.

How do you guys tell the difference?
With GLPs, depending on which one, and your dose, the elimination of food noise or “hunger” cues in general can be really profound. It’s supposed to do this.

I have had to treat eating/ nutrition like a scheduled task rather than a reaction to hunger. Otherwise I could go all day and still not be hungry.

I would recommend targeting a certain amount of calories you want to be taking in each day, plan out a balanced diet that includes plenty of protein and fiber, (whole foods if you can) schedule when you’re going to eat, and try to build a consistent pattern. Breakfast lunch and dinner, preferably around the same times each day is a great pattern.

You want to give your body what it needs to thrive, which can be hard if you’re not hungry.

A little bit of practice makes perfect. Meal prep is key for a busy schedule.

If you treat eating the right foods, in the right amounts, on a specific schedule, with the same level of seriousness you probably take any task at your day job, you’ll do great! It’s kind of like that, another task to achieve, but a very important one, and instead of a paycheck, you’re getting improved quality of life.
 
MountainsoftheMoon said:
With GLPs, depending on which one, and your dose, the elimination of food noise or “hunger” cues in general can be really profound. It’s supposed to do this.

I have had to treat eating/ nutrition like a scheduled task rather than a reaction to hunger. Otherwise I could go all day and still not be hungry.

I would recommend targeting a certain amount of calories you want to be taking in each day, plan out a balanced diet that includes plenty of protein and fiber, (whole foods if you can) schedule when you’re going to eat, and try to build a consistent pattern. Breakfast lunch and dinner, preferably around the same times each day is a great pattern.

You want to give your body what it needs to thrive, which can be hard if you’re not hungry.

A little bit of practice makes perfect. Meal prep is key for a busy schedule.

If you treat eating the right foods, in the right amounts, on a specific schedule, with the same level of seriousness you probably take any task at your day job, you’ll do great! It’s kind of like that, another task to achieve, but a very important one, and instead of a paycheck, you’re getting improved quality of life.
Hi Mountain,

That’s a great way to look at it. Treating nutrition like a scheduled task instead of waiting on hunger.

Did you have to track calories closely at first to dial that in?
 
Danger1212 said:
Before GLPs I thought I was hungry all the time. But looking back… I think a lot of it was just food noise.

I could eat a full meal and still be thinking about what was next. Not physically hungry, just always wanting something.

Now I’m starting to notice a difference, but I’m still trying to figure out where that line is between real hunger and just mental cravings.

How do you guys tell the difference?
Food noise is in my head. It's the habit of mindless eating.

Hunger is physical sensation.
 
lessthanhalf said:
After losing nearly 80 kilos over 4 years and being on 4 different GLP drugs over the past 18 months I still do not really understand what people mean by food noise. I understand hunger and chronic low grade hunger during and after weight loss, and even extreme hunger that happens after large weight loss and eating triggering foods, but still confused about what people call food noise. I find when I start eating less and losing weight I tend to get obsessed about trying to find low calorie high protein foods I can still eat, but it does not sound the same. GLP's make me less hungry and I get a lot less cravings for unhealthy foods that I have banned myself from eating. The closest I can get to it is just less time spent thinking about food or being hungry due to GLP's.
Same here. For me hunger and food noise are the exact same neural pathway. What we call food noise is just non-essential hunger. Hunger that is not associated with survival benefits. How we categorize it is subjective of course but its the same neural pathway. As an example, im bipolar and was put on seroquel and olanzapine. Within a month i gained 15 pounds. I just felt hungry more often. No difference from usual hunger just more present overall. I cant objectively distinguish real hunger from what people call food noise. Food noise is just disregulated hunger imo.
 
anhydrous said:
I think its pretty easy to draw the distinction. I categorize food noise as seeking behavior. I would think about food as if it were sex or a drug. Something to seek out that would be a lot of fun. Before being on a glp1 I would spend a huge amount of time thinking about, fantasizing about, and looking forward to the next time that I could have some. As soon as I woke up it was what sounds good for breakfast. I'd eat a big breakfast and then go about my day. During my day I'd daydream about what sounds good for lunch. It didn't just apply to that day either. I am the cook of the house and I'd find myself daydreaming about what I'm going to make for dinner tomorrow, for someone's birthday, for some holiday, or just because it was the weekend and I'd have extra capacity to make something delightful. It was all about seeking out the next thing, what I wanted rather than what I needed or what I should have. If I wanted chocolate cake I would buy a cake mix and bake one. I would eat as much of it as I wanted, and I wanted it all, but I would politely compromise with myself and just eat half to make sure everyone else had the opportunity.

Nowadays I just care a lot less, and one example that comes to mind is bacon. I haven't cooked bacon since January whereas I used to cook bacon once a week like clockwork.
Hey Anhydrous.

That’s a great explanation. Framing food noise as seeking behavior really makes sense, especially the difference between wanting food for excitement versus eating because your body actually needs it. The bacon example really hit home too because those old habits and cravings can be so automatic. It’s helpful hearing how much quieter that constant anticipation became for you.
 
Food noise is usually really persistent and feels very loud like I urgently need a sweet treat or that savory thing bc it's usually tied to a feeling and memory I want to feel.

Hunger is something I physically feel, and I'm like "oh I need to eat lunch". I feel tired, sluggish, light-headed etc. It's very generic, not super urgent, but needs to be done kinda like a chore. Food noise feels like pleasure or something I look forward to.

The thing is I suffer from insulin resistance so food noise never drove me to eat, I literally ate bc I felt like I had to. I still crave and think about McD's, buffet food, donuts, etc. w/o ever caving in to those desires bc I "don't feel hungry". But if I'm on the road, pass it and I feel hungry I'll swing by for a small fry.
 
Danger1212 said:
Hi Mountain,

That’s a great way to look at it. Treating nutrition like a scheduled task instead of waiting on hunger.

Did you have to track calories closely at first to dial that in?
Generally, yes. First step is to understand, factoring age, height, weight, etc.. how many calories you should be eating daily for your goal; To maintain current weight, or to lose weight.

Once you know what your daily target is, then you want to understand how many calories you’re taking in during each meal.

I used this free online nutrition calculator:

(It’s not letting me post the link but it’s called nutrition value dot org)

until I had a good grasp on how many calories common foods I eat have.

Because I cook most of my meals, I can easily track my intake. If I’m eating out or having something outside of my normal routine, I’ll look up the calories so I don’t get too off track, and adjust accordingly on my next meal.

I also have some cheat days here and there, because I’m human and I still enjoy diverse flavors or comfort food. Even though I’m not craving like I used to, man some Buffalo wings occasionally... (I can only eat about 6 before I feel like I’ll explode lol. Pre GLPs I could smash some wings 🫃)

Back to my original point, looking at food daily as an important scheduled task, like anything I do at work, helped me make some functional changes. I thought, “I put this effort in at work, why wouldn’t I put the same level of care and focus into myself?”

I need X amount of calories, and I need X amount of protein or fiber, and I need to include some diversity and make sure I’m getting all the nutrients. That’s really about it.

I keep things simple by making a lot of bowls. Usually with quinoa or wild rice as a base, then I’ll rotate vegetables, leafy greens, and a protein. I’ll rotate the seasoning/ flavors too. (I might do Japanese influenced: quinoa, nori, avocado, shaved carrots, soft boiled egg, chicken breast, and Japanese BBQ sauce or soy sauce… or Mexican style, some grilled sea bass with red pepper, over fajita veggies with wild rice and beans… etc etc…)

My goals were to lose weight but not muscle or bone. So I have high daily protein targets that I make sure I am meeting. Likewise, I wanted to minimize the side effects of the GLPs and make sure I have a healthy digestive system, so I focus on daily fiber too. This means lots of greens and fiber rich foods with each meal.
 
Mara_aa said:
This question hits such a sensitive spot for me that I already know my answer is going to be the boring one in the thread lol.

For context: I basically worship Tirz. I love it, I adore it, I would build a tiny shrine for it if that didn’t make me sound unwell. And yes, I live in constant terror that one day it might stop working. My coping strategy is telling myself that GLP‑1 research is exploding and there will always be new molecules to jump to.

Science, please don’t abandon me.

I’ve had food noise for years ( not BED), I didn’t even know it had a name. I used to call it “emotional hunger”, which sounds poetic until you realise it’s basically your brain running a 24/7 food‑themed Netflix autoplay.

It shows up whenever I can’t manage pain, stress, boredom, frustration, or any negative emotion.

For me it looked like:

thinking about what I could eat, what I could cook, what I could buy, which restaurant I could escape to…

And of course, eating didn’t fix anything, satisfaction is brief, and fullness lasts minutes.

Real hunger is different. It’s physical, it’s calm, it doesn’t demand a Michelin-starred experience. And once I’m full, I’m done, no sequel, no post‑credits scene.

The first time I tried Tirz, it shut off the food noise completely.

I spent days listening in fear for the moment it would come back, like a horror movie villain.

It didn’t. I felt like someone had lifted a curse.

My first words were literally: I’m never stopping this medication.

So yeah… that’s how I tell the difference. For me it’s not subtle at all, it’s two completely different worlds.

I think its the most beautiful answer not the most boring answer!
 
alphaamigo said:
For me, I don't mind being hungry. Hunger is a natural feeling, a signal that your body is ready to take in calories. Hunger alone can almost be pleasant, a rumbling in the tummy. Food noise is different. Food noise is waking up and not caring about anything but eating breakfast. It is being panicked that I will go to the party and be hungry and not be able to enjoy myself. It is my thoughts lingering on how nice and creamy that cream cheese would be on my Oreos until I can't take it. When this goes away, life is so much easier. I do not like it when the GLP1s suppress hunger to the point where I can't think about food, even healthy food that my body needs. It disturbs me. However, it is glorious to be able to finish cooking without having eaten half the food from the pot due to food noise.
Hey, Alpha!

Hunger is a notification.

Food noise is a full-blown alarm system 😂

I’m with you though. I don’t want to kill hunger, just turn the volume down on the obsession. Finishing a meal without eating half of it mid cook is elite-level progress…

But why did you have to say “Oreos??” Haha 🤣 trigger words!
 
clemochi said:
Exactly this. Stomach growling, feeling a bit weak = actual hunger, intrusive thoughts about cheesecake or something in the absence of those sensations = food noise

I do feel personally that my past with starting off my weight loss via CICO alone helped me on the introspection needed to identify these sorts of things, along with many other aspects of my previously disordered eating habits. Unfortunately that introspection alone ended up not being enough to overcome my impulses after a certain point, but I believe it's useful info for later when I reach goal and scale back dose for maintenance. Peptides are so good at knocking out both the food noise and genuine hunger that I'd definitely have found understanding my relationship with food and what triggers overeating for me, to be more difficult if I started with the peps right off the bat.
Hey Clemochi!

That’s a really solid take.

Starting with CICO probably gave you a level of awareness most people skip. Actually seeing your patterns, triggers, and habits instead of just masking them. Even if it wasn’t enough on its own long-term, that kind of introspection is huge, especially for maintenance later.

I think you nailed it. Peptides can quiet everything so effectively that it might be harder to learn those lessons if you start there first. You fixed the why, and now the peptides help with the execution.

That combo seems like the best shot at making it stick long-term.

Great info!
 
For me food noise is when I’m constantly thinking about food even when I’m not physically hungry. When I’m hungry, I can feel the growling in my belly and will also get nauseous when I’m too hungry. While on tirz, the only time I think about food is when I’m actually genuinely hungry (even then it takes longer for hunger to kick in). I don’t think about food at all in between meals while on tirz.
 
Mara_aa said:
This question hits such a sensitive spot for me that I already know my answer is going to be the boring one in the thread lol.

For context: I basically worship Tirz. I love it, I adore it, I would build a tiny shrine for it if that didn’t make me sound unwell. And yes, I live in constant terror that one day it might stop working. My coping strategy is telling myself that GLP‑1 research is exploding and there will always be new molecules to jump to.

Science, please don’t abandon me.

I’ve had food noise for years ( not BED), I didn’t even know it had a name. I used to call it “emotional hunger”, which sounds poetic until you realise it’s basically your brain running a 24/7 food‑themed Netflix autoplay.

It shows up whenever I can’t manage pain, stress, boredom, frustration, or any negative emotion.

For me it looked like:

thinking about what I could eat, what I could cook, what I could buy, which restaurant I could escape to…

And of course, eating didn’t fix anything, satisfaction is brief, and fullness lasts minutes.

Real hunger is different. It’s physical, it’s calm, it doesn’t demand a Michelin-starred experience. And once I’m full, I’m done, no sequel, no post‑credits scene.

The first time I tried Tirz, it shut off the food noise completely.

I spent days listening in fear for the moment it would come back, like a horror movie villain.

It didn’t. I felt like someone had lifted a curse.

My first words were literally: I’m never stopping this medication.

So yeah… that’s how I tell the difference. For me it’s not subtle at all, it’s two completely different worlds.
Greetings, Mara The Anointed One!

That “food-themed Netflix autoplay” line is way too accurate 😅

I relate a lot to what you said about it being tied to stress/boredom more than actual hunger.

What’s been interesting for me is realizing how loud that background noise was once it started to quiet down. Like you don’t even know it’s there until it’s gone.

I also like how you described real hunger as calm…That’s been a big distinction for me too. It doesn’t feel urgent or demanding, just more like a signal than a command.

Curious; have you found certain triggers (stress, boredom, etc.) still try to sneak through even with Tirz, or is it pretty much quiet across the board?

P.S. I Loved This!
 
BNLFL said:
I'd like to add to this. I've read, Reta has half life of 6 days or so. Basically wearing off I assume. That's maybe the difference on Thursdays. Not there on Friday, because that's the blast the belly day. One more thing as just a FYI in my opinion. Sometimes when I recon a new vial from someone new, or a different size from the same person, It hits harder. In other words, more appetite suppression and some heartburn that night. Only lasts a day.

This has been another chapter from insight from a Newb.
Hey brother, This is good and helpful!

I love and appreciate all of the additional insight!
 
For me, hunger is "Ghrelin" primarily produced by the stomach, that's that rumbling or little stomach cramps you get and your body saying time to eat. Food noise is "thinking" about your next meal, whilst eating what's in front of you.

Mind you this might sound like BS (don't blame you) when I had my weight loss surgery, they removed the part of the stomach that produces ghrelin and the hunger never came back. It does for most people that have had weigh loss surgery, I consider myself lucky. When I got the 10mg on the Tirz, I started to forget to eat alot and once went 3 days without food. That to me is the food noise, a little too far and dialed back the dose. Almost miss that at times.
 
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