bbbilly said:
it kinda feels like we are all having the same mindset, but on opposite ends of the spectrum. we all agree GLPs are helpful, needed and effective. i feel like we are all kind of discussing different levels of dependance on them rather than the use of them as a tool. i myself find even taking 1.25mg/week of my tirz puts me in a much better state of mind to be able to make the right decisions when its needed and to pull myself back from the cliff of a binge. i dont want to waste the meds or set myself back from my progress i want and that thought is what helps me break the cycle, and even when i was off of it for 6 months i knew that just because i was hungry didnt mean i had to eat, so i just ate the same things everyday regardless of hunger levels.
some people seem to rely solely on the meds to achieve their goals. i mean just look at the number of threads in the fitness/nutrition category vs any other non specialized section here. if you stop the meds of course you will gain the weight back. same thing with if you stopped food tracking and/or exercise, i don't think anyone is arguing otherwise. i just personally feel like an over dependance on them will lead to these statistics to stay true, and anecdotally i would guess the ones that you see saying "im not hungry at all but im not losing weight" would be the reason they stay at 95% weight regain after quitting.
so people like me are viewing it from the angle of diet and exercise first then meds, compared to (admittedly most likely people that would be outliers in the studies mindset based only on the limited comments from forums like these without knowing all the work they put into weight management) meds as the heavy lifter and only thing that works.
again im unaware of any studies on this subject aswell, but ive seen a regular thought process from naturally thin people to be "ya im hungry but i dont have time to eat right now so ill just eat later." its not as much of a matter of hunger ques but more so mental awareness on what hunger ques mean, and would be interested to see what would happen if they had a super effective GLP that did nothing but remove the food noise completely., while leaving the appetite suppression and gastric emptying alone. what those studies would look like.
I’ve been pretty open about my use of GLPs. A few people I know have begun their own journeys. I also tell them you don’t get the real benefits by pinning the meds once a week and sleep though the process.
I’m 74 M. Been stressing myself in a variety of ways for many years. I used to do what I called a spring cleaning by going on a juice fast lasting from 5 to 25 days every spring. When bicycle training, I go ride for 3 to 4 hours, bonk, stop and eat bananas and oranges to refuel and head home. Come to find out a nutrient deficiency is therapeutic after I had been working out in the AMs before eating.
I always considered myself as athletic, but the last few years, struggled with weight, energy, exercise, motivation, etc. Started Tirz in Aug 2025, Super responder, Lost 40lb at low doses in a few months. Plateaued a few times but was able to break through by fasting 24-36 hours.
Down now about 55 lbs and just about at my GW.
My point in writing this is for folks to understand it isn’t just a miracle drug that transforms us. It is a commitment to change most of our habits that will transform us. Had I not stressed myself earlier in life, I wonder if I could even understand how to get the most benefits from GLPs. GLPs make getting healthy easier, but they do not create health. I had some good habits along with bad ones. GLPs are great tools to help focus on good health choices.
When people say Keto, Ozempic, Jenny Craig, Weight-Watchers, et al diets don’t work since everybody gains the weight back after they quit have kinda missed the point. Of all the weight-loss regimens I’ve seen, GLPs are the miracle solution. Look through this forum. Most folks on GLPs are also on other peps and protocols to increase their health-spans. Most talk of dietary and workout changes. I haven’t seen this in any of the other diet groups. Keep up the good work and be good examples.
