Protein suggestions

[Skidude]

One article is from 2008 and the other from 2016.

There's a reason I specified modern day research and mention previous beliefs.

Im not trying to change anyone's mind since I dont know you from Adam and your choices will not affect my life. With that being said as new information comes in its usually best practice to absorb it and adjust opinions accordingly.

To be fair, you have not provided any new information to absorb; I made an attempt.

Am I to assume your new information disproves these 2 medical articles?

Is your contention that we do not need protein to maintain lean mass and it does not help with satiety?

Also, I am not sure you read them, as the G per KG may be closer to your belief.

Do you have a belief?

 

[aepower2016]

Although I have seen a range of recommended dosages, it absolutely helps with maintaining lean mass, and or, building lean mass.

Your post is spot on however I would caution saying an increase in protein during a deficit would build lean mass. I believe the study states higher protein intake can help preserve lean mass but I don't recall it saying it helped build lean mass.

 

[Skidude]

Your post is spot on however I would caution saying an increase in protein during a deficit would build lean mass. I believe the study states higher protein intake can help preserve lean mass but I don't recall it saying it helped build lean mass.

I think @eidos provided what appeared to be a good explanation for how we can only use so much before it becomes wasted (I believe metabolizes into carbs etc-please do not quote me).

As for building muscle, it is my understanding that you must be in a calorie surplus as well as a generous amount of protein, I will let others state the specifics, I am not well versed on body building. My comment on building lean mass would be as it relates to body building and surplus calories along with resistance.

 

[Grogu]

I was also recommended this by a friend! the 42g protein bottle but have yet to try it. Does it taste good?

I love all these Fairlife shakes. I was actually at BJs a couple of weeks ago and bought some different ones that aren't available anywhere else, but haven't tried those yet.

Can't go wrong with a Fairlife shake.

I also only drink Fairlife milk and will never drink regular milk again. The nutrition is so much better it's unbelievable.

 

[Skidude]

I love all these Fairlife shakes. I was actually at BJs a couple of weeks ago and bought some different ones that aren't available anywhere else, but haven't tried those yet.

Can't go wrong with a Fairlife shake.

I also only drink Fairlife milk and will never drink regular milk again. The nutrition is so much better it's unbelievable.

The milk also lasts so much longer and I believe it is better for people with lactose intolerance.

found it:

fairlife ultra-filtered milk is made with 50% more protein and 50% less sugar compared to regular milk, with a rich, creamy taste.

Fairlife milk is genuinely lactose-free. The brand uses a two-step method to achieve this: they first ultra-filter the cow’s milk to remove the majority of the lactose naturally, and then add the lactase enzyme to break down any remaining sugars.

While it is entirely free of lactose, keep in mind that it is not dairy-free . Because it is made from real cow’s milk, it still contains milk proteins (like casein and whey). If you have a true milk allergy rather than lactose intolerance, it should be avoided.

 

[aepower2016]

I think @eidos provided what appeared to be a good explanation for how we can only use so much before it becomes wasted (I believe metabolizes into carbs etc-please do not quote me).

This is very true which is why having an excessive amount of protein could be counterproductive especially in a caloric deficit. Your energy will already be low from being in a deficit and having an extremely lopsided protein to carb ratio can lead to greater exhaustion which than could lead to inconsistency in your journey. However, I was referring to the study you posted which only took into account adults 50+ who were currently not performing no type of training.

As for building muscle, it is my understanding that you must be in a calorie surplus as well

Yup, you either need to be in a maintenance or surplus phase with at least .7 grams of protein per pound

 

[Grogu]

The milk also lasts so much longer and I believe it is better for people with lactose intolerance.

Yeah, it's almost scary how long Fairlife milk is good for, like months. But, I think that the fine print says once opened you're supposed to consume in 14-days. I don't think my dad follows that rule and is still kickin', but I usually have it consumed way before then anyways.

 

[Skidude]

Yeah, it's almost scary how long Fairlife milk is good for, like months. But, I think that the fine print says once opened you're supposed to consume in 14-days. I don't think my dad follows that rule and is still kickin', but I usually have it consumed way before then anyways.

I may need to read it.. lol

I do not drink a lot of milk so I buy it to last a little longer, helps offset the added cost.

I will say after many weeks it remains sweet without any sour taste or odor.

Some of the other brands end up being tossed if I buy a 1/2 gallon

 

[Grogu]

I may need to read it.. lol

I do not drink a lot of milk so I buy it to last a little longer, helps offset the added cost.

I will say after many weeks it remains sweet without any sour taste or odor.

Some of the other brands end up being tossed if I buy a 1/2 gallon

I think a lot of the expiration dates of things in the US can be pushed a lot, which is why I mentioned my dad. I'm way too conservative on things like that.

I drank sour milk one time in my life (got it at a convenience store on my way to work), you'd definitely know if there is a problem.

 

[aepower2016]

Ask Schwarzy about that, he knows how to do it. That's not really what the doctors are interested in.

Do bodybuilding, lifting weights heavy enough to tear some muscle fibers (just a few, not all of them), take BCAAs, rest, drink water, and repeat.

I'm sorry, who's Schwarzy? It's not about what doctors are interested in, it's about not spreading misinformation. The study in question never mentioned higher doses helped build muscle mass because it did not happen.

You don't need to bodybuild to build muscle either. Resistance training can come in so many different varieties. In fact, you don't even need to train at all depending on your circumstances. Someone who job requires physical demand like construction can get away without training if there protein intake is in check. Is it going to get them jacked? Now that's a completely different story. Also, do you mean taking a BCAA supplement? If so, it is not necessary for anyone to supplement with BCAA if they are not only consuming the proper amount of protein but also ensuring they are consuming complete sources of protein that will cover all of there amino acid requirements.

 

[Goonwise]

Also almost 100 percent of protein bars are trash. Look at how much sugar, carbs and seed oils they have. It just candy with some protein. Your way better of with no/low sugar beef jerky.

Hard agree.

You need to check the ingredients extensively before consuming protein bars. There are very few good ones out there.

 

[Skidude]

Hard agree.

You need to check the ingredients extensively before consuming protein bars. There are very few good ones out there.

this was my favorite.

As advertised it is creamy and crisp.

I am not a nutrition expert but it came highly recommended

Your feedback as appreciated- I love to learn

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[Goonwise]

this was my favorite.

As advertised it is creamy and crisp.

I am not a nutrition expert but it came highly recommended

Your feedback as appreciated- I love to learn

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Its mostly good. There are few ingredients which are problematic to the gut health. sucralose is one of them. IIRC malitol and sucralose both interact with gut bacteria in an adverse way.

Also the inflated protein profile with bovine collagen is another issue. Its not a very nice protein as it lacks couple of amino acids which are needed for muscle building.

 

[Goonwise]

Then again, I am kind of paranoid about gut microbiome and try to introduce as little disruption to them as possible. So please take my suggestion with a pinch of salt.

The protein profile is true though. Not all protein are the same.