Protein Powders and Shakes Contain High Levels of Lead

[brownb56]

I don't disagree that we should care about lead exposure from other areas - of course we should.

But if that's the takeaway message, the protein powder manufacturers should just make that the message instead of lying about things like Momentus is doing.

I ingest a lot of extra protein - I drink 4 Fairlife 30g bottles a day - that are also chocolate, so I wouldn't be surprised if I'm getting lead there, so I'm not exactly out here wanting to burn the world down on this stuff. But I'm gonna call out outright lies when someone is making outright lies like we're seeing here.

Problem is we are getting lead everywhere. Even switching to whole food alternatives are likely to expose you to similar amounts.

 

[MsGizmo]

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/D4_8g2aV6GI

 

[AndyPanda]

How many protein shakes til I look like this? View attachment 9214

Ash Williams is way cooler than Frank Dux, but I don’t think you can use boom sticks at the Kumite. To answer your question, you need exactly 352 bottles of Isopure 32g clear protein water. The Blue Raspberry and Grape Frost are the best but it’s $53 for 12 bottles. Of course I’m being an asshole with that number, but it’s the absolute cleanest protein I’ve tried. It’s light on my stomach and the highest protein content I can actually enjoy drinking. I’m pretty sure it will also give you the ability to do splits and properly execute the Dim Mak. Chong Li will be saying “Matte” as soon as he sees you polish off your 352nd bottle.

 

[BioDad]

Also weird that it doesn't mention fiber as being something that Americans need a fuckton more of, either. If I was them my takeaway message would be "Be careful about protein supplements, try to get as much as you can from whole foods, eat more if you lift weights (and you should lift weights), also eat more fiber. A lot more fiber."

Amen to this. Big time. There are Umbrella Analysis on the seemingly endless benefits of fiber on a variety of health markers and the prevention of just about every chronic disease. I can't think of a single supplement that has as many proven benefits.

 

[AndyPanda]

Problem is we are getting lead everywhere. Even switching to whole food alternatives are likely to expose you to similar amounts.

But it protects you from 5G and all the other signals moving through your body! I swear it’s true!

 

[yoyotired]

so basically don't buy plant based protein powders and vanilla flavors are always cleaner than chocolate flavors.

Looked into other tests and glad to see my go to, Dymatize ISO test pretty clean across the board.

thanks for the heads up

I'm a fan of Dymatize ISO as well. decent flavors with out the after taste and the protein to calorie ratio is pretty good.

 

[desinr-gal]

Problem is we are getting lead everywhere. Even switching to whole food alternatives are likely to expose you to similar amounts.

I dont think that is true. The lead exposure for chocolate (which has been investigated) and the peas I assume, is similar, is in the processing in places where lead has been allowed to accumulate, most likely from Exhaust from leaded gasoline machines. That is something that could be removed from whole plant foods, like legumes. Simply washing them would reduce that greatly.

Unfortunately manufacturers are obviously not doing that, as water or other means of removal would be labor intensive to use. But we consumers whether by choosing those who do, or by choosing whole foods and washing them well,can successfully avoid most of it.

Legumes like lentils are very high in protein, fiber, and other good things. They should be a go to for protein.

 

[AndyPanda]

Some will call this a conspiracy but I encourage everyone to do the bare amount of research. The most harmful thing that we regularly consume in the US, is tap water. It’s full of psych meds (lithium), antidepressants like SSRIs, estrogen, progesterone (birth control) and other hormones that are overprescribed, under absorbed, excreted and then it can’t be filtered out effectively. Then they send it right to your faucet and charge you for it. Restaurants cook with it and use it in fountain drinks. Even most bottled water comes from municipal sources.

Lead is not that big of an issue unless it’s the accelerated variety that’s measured in grains.

 

[desinr-gal]

Some will call this a conspiracy but I encourage everyone to do the bare amount of research. The most harmful thing that we regularly consume in the US, is tap water. It’s full of psych meds (lithium), antidepressants like SSRIs, estrogen, progesterone (birth control) and other hormones that are overprescribed, under absorbed, excreted and then it can’t be filtered out effectively. Then they send it right to your faucet and charge you for it. Restaurants cook with it and use it in fountain drinks. Even most bottled water comes from municipal sources.

Lead is not that big of an issue unless it’s the accelerated variety that’s measured in grains.

True for some areas. You can look up your homes water report by your address and see what's in it. We use a 4 filter system to filter ours after discovering the same cancer causing stuff featured in the Movie Erin Brokovitch!

 

[buffoon24]

The report had lots of issues - https://news.immunologic.org/p/consumer-reports-latest-panic-toxic

Your protein powder is completely fine

 

[Peptidesearch]

I have a sub with CR but also Consumerlab.com where they specifically test supplements and give lots of info on whether the supplement is safe/beneficial etc.

 

[Labcat]

The report had lots of issues - https://news.immunologic.org/p/consumer-reports-latest-panic-toxic

Your protein powder is completely fine

I think the calm mongering is overly dismissive. Even using the least strict gov’t standards, many of us who actually rely on a large dose, say 2-3 protein drinks a day, to help meet the extended protein levels for post menopausal women and folks taking glps… could in fact regularly be taking in too much lead. Especially if we also eat dark chocolate or other industrially contaminated foods. It’s a straw man about ridiculing California worrying that a tiny amount of lead could kill you… the real concern is that lead is toxic to brain function and the majority of us are also likely checking out the cognitive peptides so avoiding a recognized toxin is likely very productive.

 

[IAmTheWalrus]

I stumbled across the whole "which protein powder is best" debate, some certainly are worse than others (I think most are actually pretty bad in the way of testing and saying that you get per scoop when compared to what you actually get):

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^Promix is meant to be tested by NSF as well, but I was unable to find it for some reason

I'm sure there are more but the above are said to be tested more thoroughly that others, however the price definitely reflects that.

Not sure if this is any use to anybody but thought I would post it anyways.

 

[buffoon24]

I think the calm mongering is overly dismissive. Even using the least strict gov’t standards, many of us who actually rely on a large dose, say 2-3 protein drinks a day, to help meet the extended protein levels for post menopausal women and folks taking glps… could in fact regularly be taking in too much lead. Especially if we also eat dark chocolate or other industrially contaminated foods. It’s a straw man about ridiculing California worrying that a tiny amount of lead could kill you… the real concern is that lead is toxic to brain function and the majority of us are also likely checking out the cognitive peptides so avoiding a recognized toxin is likely very productive.

I don't think even drinking 3x is a big deal. Can you clarify what data you are looking into? Also, assuming most people easily get ~60g protein from their diet, if they are also taking 2-3 protein shakes then it is around ~140g of daily protein intake, which is close to or more than the upper limit. I agree with your cognition claim, though. My recommendation would be to track your daily protein and see how you feel/perform as the quantity fluctuates.

As someone who has been tracking many aspects of my health, it has been quite fascinating to see interesting correlations in my own data.

 

[Labcat]

I don't think even drinking 3x is a big deal. Can you clarify what data you are looking into? Also, assuming most people easily get ~60g protein from their diet, if they are also taking 2-3 protein shakes then it is around ~140g of daily protein intake, which is close to or more than the upper limit. I agree with your cognition claim, though. My recommendation would be to track your daily protein and see how you feel/perform as the quantity fluctuates.

As someone who has been tracking many aspects of my health, it has been quite fascinating to see interesting correlations in my own data.

Well it’s true that it’s relatively less problematic to drink a mild poison if one can limit it to a few times a week, just chase it with a diet coke. But saying a problem shouldn’t affect most people is less good than forcing mfgs to make clean products.

Some of us depend on protein supplements for baseline nutrition during periods when normal eating or high protein diets is difficult to achieve, so high levels of contaminants can be problematic. (It’s aggravating that it’s thought to be from poor handling of machinery contamination, so ultimately it was a choice, avoidable in production.)

Now, I have rarely been able to eat as much as 60gm of protein a day. Currently with gastroparesis and mcas, which are not uncommon conditions, longterm usage of protein supplementation to target protein intake is recommended. And I’m pretty sure those working to put on muscle regularly use protein shakes rather than cooking extra meals. Those who have sarcopenia or are postmenopausal or have bone density issues, have higher targets… as much as 1.3gm per POUND. (assuming good kidney function.) Though not everyone agrees of course. With glps complicating dietary intake by increasing protein need while reducing capacity for solid meals, along with goals of weight loss while maintaining palatability, there is a largely hidden population who drink a lot of protein supplements.

I’d be curious to see how many drink at least one a day.

 

[flapjacks]

Well it’s true that it’s relatively less problematic to drink a mild poison if one can limit it to a few times a week, just chase it with a diet coke. But saying a problem shouldn’t affect most people is less good than forcing mfgs to make clean products.

Some of us depend on protein supplements for baseline nutrition during periods when normal eating or high protein diets is difficult to achieve, so high levels of contaminants can be problematic. (It’s aggravating that it’s thought to be from poor handling of machinery contamination, so ultimately it was a choice, avoidable in production.)

Now, I have rarely been able to eat as much as 60gm of protein a day. Currently with gastroparesis and mcas, which are not uncommon conditions, longterm usage of protein supplementation to target protein intake is recommended. And I’m pretty sure those working to put on muscle regularly use protein shakes rather than cooking extra meals. Those who have sarcopenia or are postmenopausal or have bone density issues, have higher targets… as much as 1.3gm per POUND. (assuming good kidney function.) Though not everyone agrees of course. With glps complicating dietary intake by increasing protein need while reducing capacity for solid meals, along with goals of weight loss while maintaining palatability, there is a largely hidden population who drink a lot of protein supplements.

I’d be curious to see how many drink at least one a day.

This is so me. Have you been able to find any safe protein powders?

 

[Labcat]

This is so me. Have you been able to find any safe protein powders?

I just use organic whey powder and cross my fingers, it seem rather discouraging that everything seems to need regulatory supervision, and doesnt have it.

 

[flapjacks]

I just use organic whey powder and cross my fingers, it seem rather discouraging that everything seems to need regulatory supervision, and doesnt have it.

I went to this website and found some interesting info.

Protein Powder v2 Category Tested Products

Click Here to Download the Protein Powders Clean 16 Pdf The Clean Label Project (CLP) performed a comprehensive analysis of the Protein Powder category that included the following 165 products. CLP’s Clean Sixteen highlights the 16 products with the lowest levels of contaminants. Please note...

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[Labcat]

I went to this website and found some interesting info.

Protein Powder v2 Category Tested Products

Click Here to Download the Protein Powders Clean 16 Pdf The Clean Label Project (CLP) performed a comprehensive analysis of the Protein Powder category that included the following 165 products. CLP’s Clean Sixteen highlights the 16 products with the lowest levels of contaminants. Please note...

cleanlabelproject.org

Wow, that’s a fantastic resource! Thank you for posting this!

 

[flapjacks]

Wow, that’s a fantastic resource! Thank you for posting this!

You're welcome. I figured it's important to be careful since I am (like you said) supplementing a large amount of daily protein with drinks aka manufactured substances.

I appreciate that you guys are talking about this.