I am a food scientist specializing in gut health and fibers. AMA.

[lastresort]

Looking for Green Banana resistant starches, I see lots of organic banana flour and organic green banana flour. Are the flours the same as the powders, or do I need to specifically buy "resistant starch" green banana?

Green banana flour is what you need to look for.

Organic banana flour is probably just ripe bananas dried and ground, which is probably tastier but less in fiber.

 

[Pin&Play]

I am not qualified to give any medical advice.

But bloating and constipations are general but persistent symptoms of people with compromised gut. Have you tried talking with doctors? What did they say?

IBS is tricky because one cause could be a total absence of butyric-acid producing bacteria that cannot be supplemented because anaerobic bacteria just can't be sold as probiotics. Prebiotic is kinda pointless in such case.

There is no way to quantify "right" amount of probiotics because no one knows how much of the probiotics will successfully colonize your gut, and what your baseline gut bacteria population is. However, what you are doing seems to be working since kefir has quite a diverse probiotics other than lactic acid bacteria, and chia seeds have polysaccharides that gel in water, which could help with stool. Have you tried oat brans?

If you want to try kimchi, try to find white kimchi from korean markets since it is less spicy.

I've never spoke with doctors about bloating/IBS, as you say it's such a general symptom that I'd rather evaluate all the options myself and maybe speak with a specialist when I have a clearer idea.

But yes implementing fibers made a huge difference.

Even though in the last 3 months I've been using Tirzepatide, BPC and KPV and I believe those played a role too.

 

[anhydrous]

Green banana flour is what you need to look for.

Organic banana flour is probably just ripe bananas dried and ground, which is probably tastier but less in fiber.

Do you think that plantain flour is equal to green banana flour? Also how much of this stuff do you think a person should consume?

 

[lastresort]

I have not looked into it but a cursory look from here (see table 1) shows that plantain flour can contain up to 50% resistant starch. There is, however, no guarantee that it will have similar microbiome or health impacts as green banana flours.

 

[Turbo-Farmer]

Pretty much the title. My PhD was in novel food innovation and I have been working on developing new dietary, prebiotic fibers for diverse gut health for a few years now.

It's thursday evening and I am bored. Ask me almost anything.

What’s your opinion on beans as a source of fiber. I have seen some anti-inflammatory diets that say to avoid beans.

But I always make dried beans (mostly black) and soak overnight to minimize the lectins.

I would be interested in your opinion

 

[lastresort]

What’s your opinion on beans as a source of fiber. I have seen some anti-inflammatory diets that say to avoid beans.

But I always make dried beans (mostly black) and soak overnight to minimize the lectins.

I would be interested in your opinion

Beans are alright. The fibers in beans are typically cellulose, fructans some arabinoxylan, rapidly fermenting raffinose/stachyose/verbascose. I wouldn't put describe them as great though as they can give bad fart.

Lectins are carbohydrate binding proteins. They degrade with heat and shold have little to no impacts on you. I heard about lectin free diet before but never read actual literature on it.

 

[dancs]

Wtf... I thought I was smart....

Until I started reading this thread......

Then I got smarter.

 

[dancs]

I am relatively new to peptides myself so I only have experiences with a few.

We know how smart you are, but I appreciate your honesty regarding the lack of knowledge/experience in peptides/compounds.

 

[Smiter]

Okay, I came here as a last resort. I am at the end of my tether. There is a person in my vicinity, and there is a gargantuan crisis. This person suffers from overpowering flatulence. No, I mean it is a global threat. The hydrogen sulfide emitted can cause acid rain in Virginia.

When I was in Toronto for six years, the weather was warmer than ever. Nobody could explain why, but I knew. Methane is a far more potent greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

Now, none of that weak sauce stuff like carrot fibers. This person's favorite vegetable is carrots, and they can consume an entire field of carrots as if 10,000 Spartan rabbits were unleashed upon it.

So, I need you to your game and come up with the ultimate nullifier. I wanna go John Wick on the ass. I'm talking Fatality, Brutality, and Flawless Victory all rolled into one. This is my last resort. No quarter given, no surrender, just total annihilation.

What fibers hold the secret to this catastrophe-extinguisher?

 

[lastresort]

Okay, I came here as a last resort. I am at the end of my tether. There is a person in my vicinity, and there is a gargantuan crisis. This person suffers from overpowering flatulence. No, I mean it is a global threat. The hydrogen sulfide emitted can cause acid rain in Virginia.

When I was in Toronto for six years, the weather was warmer than ever. Nobody could explain why, but I knew. Methane is a far more potent greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.

Now, none of that weak sauce stuff like carrot fibers. This person's favorite vegetable is carrots, and they can consume an entire field of carrots as if 10,000 Spartan rabbits were unleashed upon it.

So, I need you to your game and come up with the ultimate nullifier. I wanna go John Wick on the ass. I'm talking Fatality, Brutality, and Flawless Victory all rolled into one. This is my last resort. No quarter given, no surrender, just total annihilation.

What fibers hold the secret to this catastrophe-extinguisher?

sounds like the person should completely purge his gut flora and get a fecal transplant from a healthy person lol.

 

[Smiter]

sounds like the person should completely purge his gut flora and get a fecal transplant from a healthy person lol.

Ok, great... How does one do that?

 

[AgingRegenDamaged]

Ok, great... How does one do that?

Medically this may involve antibiotics..

Back around 2013 I was working very long hours and became overweight for the first time because I had a poor diet with lots of carbs from indulgent trips to waitrose or marks and sparks and consequently low energy, horrendously stinky pooping heralded by equally bad farting.

I went to the original detox fasting spa on Koh Samui and did a 17 day fast with twice daily self-administered colonic irrigation.

The only thing you swallowed was a broth, coconut water to maintain electrolyte levels, herbal cleansing suppliments and water. Day four was the nadir for me, I had on day three been lucid and charming to my dining companion who was doing a light semi-fast and they thought I was mentally ill or taking drugs that day.

At day 5 I was much recovered and at days 15 to 17 I was passing some pretty weird shit out of me that was in no way normal faecal matter.

Hunger ceased to be an issue very quickly and I was in a very contemplative and relaxed state for most of the time, despite the gruesomeness of the colonic irrigation which you quickly adapt to because you are never cold in Thailand so your muscles naturally relax.

After the fast I never felt more energetic or balanced only rivalled by eating keto. No more stinky pooing, no more stinky farts. Eating healthy was effortless afterwards.

Link below to the spa but it has passed out of private ownership since I was there and the uphill annexed resort I stayed in with the tiny cabins has sadly gone but things change. I am sure you can find similar places for cheaper if you look.

The Spa Resorts

Welcome to The Spa Resorts Thailand’s Original Wellness Retreat Since 1992 Discover the healing power of nature in the heart of Koh Samui. a healthy holiday Leave stress behind and reconnect with what matters most — your health and peace of mind. Join us for a transformative wellness retreat or...

thesparesorts.com

 

[lastresort]

Ok, great... How does one do that?

I don't know lol. I havent seen one in action. But it has been done in case studies where doctors literally get a scoop of poo from healthy person and somehow insert it into a person with IBS. I can't recall the exact process.

 

[Ticks]

There are powdered green bananas, I recommend that. It's not super tasy, but it works well in apple and strawberry smoothies.

Inulin and green banana resistant starches are very different. Inulin is a fructan - chain of fructose. Resistant starch in green banana is what we call, type 2 resistant starch: crystalline starch granules that don't digest in our body as long as it's not cooked, and acts as fibber.

Inulin ferment fast in proximal (ascending) colon. IT's considered a gold standard of fiber in the current market, but clinical research shows that it is more modulatory for people with some metabolic disease such as glucose impairment and hypercholesterolemia, not so much for healthy people. It feeds bifidobacteria which are important immune-boosting bacteria, so that's great and all but health benefit wise, it's meh. Also, beacuse it ferments in only the first part of colon, it neglects middle (transversal) and distal (descending) colon. This is important because the distal colon is where colon cancer is often found.

Resistant starch such as green banana ferment more slowly throughout the gut, and feeds more diverse array of bacteria. Plenty of clinical evidences for healthy populations and obese populations that it reduces blood glucose, cholesterol, triglyceride, and fat mass.

Bananas have polyphenal oxidase, it destroys the flavanols in berries, apples, etc before they can be absorbed.. Its not preferred to add to smoothies with other fruits like that

 

[lastresort]

Bananas have polyphenal oxidase, it destroys the flavanols in berries, apples, etc before they can be absorbed.. Its not preferred to add to smoothies with other fruits like that

1. The oxidase doesnt "destroy" polyphenols. It oxidized and polymerises them into larger molecules called melanoidine which in itself can have antioxidant properties.

2. Green bananas are heat treated so the enzyme is unlikely to be significantly active if at all.

3. Even if it is active, your stomach acid is more likely to damage polyphenols than the oxidase, which will denature and will lose activity even more.

 

[TropicalBlaster]

So what is your opinion on a carnivore diet? I've been eating a strict rotation of beef, fish, pork, chicken, lamb, duck, prawns, eggs, cheese, butter and oils (avocado, cocnut. Olive) for the past month and feeling great.

Do you think lack of fibre makes this a poor long term diet?

 

[lastresort]

So what is your opinion on a carnivore diet? I've been eating a strict rotation of beef, fish, pork, chicken, lamb, duck, prawns, eggs, cheese, butter and oils (avocado, cocnut. Olive) for the past month and feeling great.

Do you think lack of fibre makes this a poor long term diet?

Short answer is yes.

Long answer: Feelings are poor indicators of health (yes i know, bring the pitch forks!) and super subjective. They don't tell you that you are developing early signs of colorectal cancers, or that your intestine walls are weaking in tight-junctions and literally leaking bio-waste back into your bloodstream. Your large intestine comprises ascending, traverse and descending colon. Descending colon is where colorectal cancer is found. There are many reasons, but a proteolytic fermentation plays major roles. Byproducts such as branched fatty acid, urea, sulfur oxides, hydrogen sulfides, or other uremic toxins.

 

[Skidude]

Insoluble fibers such as green bananas and viscous fibers like oat beta glucans can improve your stools by bulking and increasing stool moisture. They are also good for gut bacteria in general.

So I went to the store and bought the greenest bananas I could find.

Am I doing it right?

I have recently had a couple of rounds of antibiotics and am trying to help restore Biome.

I also have been eating yogurt, kimchee, and sauerkraut.

Any other suggestions?

 

[Pocket]

So I went to the store and bought the greenest bananas I could find.

Am I doing it right?

I have recently had a couple of rounds of antibiotics and am trying to help restore Biome.

I also have been eating yogurt, kimchee, and sauerkraut.

Any other suggestions?

Kombucha and/or kefir if you like them. But I am also not a food scientist so don't take my word as gospel.

 

[HistLady]

So I went to the store and bought the greenest bananas I could find.

Am I doing it right?

I have recently had a couple of rounds of antibiotics and am trying to help restore Biome.

I also have been eating yogurt, kimchee, and sauerkraut.

Any other suggestions?

I have a sensitive stomach and constipation and other issues have been a constant most of my life. The best fiber that I have found is Sunfiber. It helps with constipation and some other issues. I buy the Tomorrow's Nutrition with the blue label. The green one has other pre and probiotics that I prefer to take separately.