Got some pens off Ali Express I like so far

[randompersonrandom]

Decided I'm done with syringe-in-vial, for anything. Sterile carts are as cheap as sterile vials, and I filter, so my stuff's getting transferred no matter what; so I may as well use a method that's convenient and more sterile.

And since I've been dabbling in different stuff, I wanted as many pens as I'm likely to be using different things; I had two V1's (exposed needle) and picked up five v2-type knockoffs on Ali express for ten bucks each. If I'm ever using more than seven different peps at once, I will go get another hobby.

These are nice and the one I moved my kpv to worked well. I was surprised that hiding the needle also hides some of the feeling of being poked. The cartridge holder is plastic instead of glass, which I don't love, but fine for ten bucks.

First pic, the new ones beside the V1, so you can see the size difference.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809737733726.html

 

[X3rocks]

Ordered a couple of those today. Hope they work good.

 

[IshimaruKenta]

I did not like my V2 at all. Just wasn't smooth mechanically. Look into either a Humapen Savvio or an All-Star Pro. They're way more expensive ($40 vs say $9-20) than the V2 but it's such a better pen overall. I won't go back to vial and needle anymore. Just wait until you see a gansulin pen.

 

[randompersonrandom]

I did not like my V2 at all. Just wasn't smooth mechanically. Look into either a Humapen Savvio or an All-Star Pro. They're way more expensive than the V2 but it's such a better pen overall. I won't go back to vial and needle anymore. Just wait until you see a gansulin pen.

I prolly WILL run out of peptides to collect and start collecting pens eventually--I'll grab the gansulin then. I do like these a lot, though; they're definitely knockoff v2's, because they're smaller than the real v1 I have, and I think the real v2's are the same size. The mechanism is smoother than the v1, though. And I am so surprised by how much I like the needle-hide thing. Not for the hiding, but for the pressure around where the needle goes, and because I don't feel funny about a wrong angle.

 

[Sara360]

I’ve been searching pens myself so thank you for the feedback on the V1 V2. I did look at the gansulin pen but have never used any pen so don’t know what I’m missing either way at this point. I have an order of GHK-cu and KPV so definitely looking for a pen for simplicity

 

[IshimaruKenta]

Gansulin is an automatic pen, where you dial the dose and press a button and it goes. You don't actually inject anything, the pen does it. It can be expensive (AE has em for $115, but US sellers are anywhere from $52-80), but well worth it. The Bird pen is good, it's just made with plastic and the injection mechanism is a little odd, but it's auto too. That one is about $30.

Pens are so good, but there's so much extra waste involved. The vent needle, the plastic from that, the plastic from the cart wrapper, etc. Still, I won't go back to vial and syringe again and wondering if I'm truly at the unit line I need.

Plus, you don't need to worry about the needle dulling because you're sticking it into the vial first, then into you. Pen needles are sharp and go in smooth.

 

[Sara360]

Thank you! I saw AE for the gansulin at $115 and was holy smokes versus a $20 v2 pen. I completely get the needle dulling though, I’ve had some ouch, especially early on

 

[randompersonrandom]

Thank you! I saw AE for the gansulin at $115 and was holy smokes versus a $20 v2 pen. I completely get the needle dulling though, I’ve had some ouch, especially early on

That's where I am; I'm not ready for a hundred dollar pen. The day may come when I've had enough of manual, and I have a burning desire for quality. For right now, I'm just super happy to have my ten-buck pens labelled and set up and ready to go. I never really saw the point of pens til I went to a pen for my klow, and now I'm to a point where I just don't want to mess with a syringe. Just wipe (it), screw on, click click click, wipe (me), jab, push, screw off, go about my business and no air added to my cartridge.

 

[desinr-gal]

Decided I'm done with syringe-in-vial, for anything. Sterile carts are as cheap as sterile vials, and I filter, so my stuff's getting transferred no matter what; so I may as well use a method that's convenient and more sterile.

And since I've been dabbling in different stuff, I wanted as many pens as I'm likely to be using different things; I had two V1's (exposed needle) and picked up five v2-type knockoffs on Ali express for ten bucks each. If I'm ever using more than seven different peps at once, I will go get another hobby.

These are nice and the one I moved my kpv to worked well. I was surprised that hiding the needle also hides some of the feeling of being poked. The cartridge holder is plastic instead of glass, which I don't love, but fine for ten bucks.

First pic, the new ones beside the V1, so you can see the size difference.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256809737733726.html

hahaha sorry I missed it. Nice pens! I trust you didnt have the shipping issues?

 

[randompersonrandom]

hahaha sorry I missed it. Nice pens! I trust you didnt have the shipping issues?

No, I haven't even heard about shipping issues! It took a few weeks, but I expected that.

 

[IshimaruKenta]

That's where I am; I'm not ready for a hundred dollar pen. The day may come when I've had enough of manual, and I have a burning desire for quality. For right now, I'm just super happy to have my ten-buck pens labelled and set up and ready to go. I never really saw the point of pens til I went to a pen for my klow, and now I'm to a point where I just don't want to mess with a syringe. Just wipe (it), screw on, click click click, wipe (me), jab, push, screw off, go about my business and no air added to my cartridge.

I mean, even the Bird pen is better than a V2. But you're 100% right about the ease. I love it. Just wait until you get into cases to store said pens. But if you don't want to get an auto pen, look into the Sanofi All-Star Pro or the Lilly Savvio (people really like the Lilly Luxura, but it's only 30 units and a bit expensive unless you buy off AE). I'm glad you went to the pen side!

 

[MM7LQX 18296]

My issue with these pens is the vials, they are not sterile and not able to be sterilised correctly using a steam autoclave with the bung in situ as the lumen of the vial is protected by the bung. the work around is remove from sterilisation pouch and remove bung, re package in new sterilisation pouch and cycle through an autoclave. Such a shame and a risk that these are not sterile from manufacturer.

 

[desinr-gal]

My issue with these pens is the vials, they are not sterile and not able to be sterilised correctly using a steam autoclave with the bung in situ as the lumen of the vial is protected by the bung. the work around is remove from sterilisation pouch and remove bung, re package in new sterilisation pouch and cycle through an autoclave. Such a shame and a risk that these are not sterile from manufacturer.

The ones I bought say sterile, they have the black mark. Why do you say they are not sterile?

 

[IshimaruKenta]

My issue with these pens is the vials, they are not sterile and not able to be sterilised correctly using a steam autoclave with the bung in situ as the lumen of the vial is protected by the bung. the work around is remove from sterilisation pouch and remove bung, re package in new sterilisation pouch and cycle through an autoclave. Such a shame and a risk that these are not sterile from manufacturer.

My friend works in a hospital to sterilize items and I have him sterilize my carts using an autoclave. So I trust him with that.

 

[MM7LQX 18296]

Glad to hear yours have the black mark Desinr-gal and that IshimaruKenta is using an autoclave.

I say they are not sterile as out of the many hundreds I have seen available within a UK market, NONE have been sterile. No black mark, no sterilisation date, no wording of sterility at all, except …. On the sellers website who are misleadingly selling non sterile cartridges as sterile. I am very glad that you have access to sterile cartridges. But for those that are unaware of the “BLACK MARK” I wonder if it would help someone to have the marks of the sterilisation pouches explained with an example ?

 

[IshimaruKenta]

Glad to hear yours have the black mark Desinr-gal and that IshimaruKenta is using an autoclave.

I say they are not sterile as out of the many hundreds I have seen available within a UK market, NONE have been sterile. No black mark, no sterilisation date, no wording of sterility at all, except …. On the sellers website who are misleadingly selling non sterile cartridges as sterile. I am very glad that you have access to sterile cartridges. But for those that are unaware of the “BLACK MARK” I wonder if it would help someone to have the marks of the sterilisation pouches explained with an example ?

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Glad to hear yours have the black mark Desinr-gal and that IshimaruKenta is using an autoclave.

I say they are not sterile as out of the many hundreds I have seen available within a UK market, NONE have been sterile. No black mark, no sterilisation date, no wording of sterility at all, except …. On the sellers website who are misleadingly selling non sterile cartridges as sterile. I am very glad that you have access to sterile cartridges. But for those that are unaware of the “BLACK MARK” I wonder if it would help someone to have the marks of the sterilisation pouches explained with an example ?

The black mark on a package doesn't really prove anything. You can buy the packages from china pre marked. As well as packages that don't change even when they are properly sterilized.

 

[desinr-gal]

The black mark on a package doesn't really prove anything. You can buy the packages from china pre marked. As well as packages that don't change even when they are properly sterilized.

well so far I seem to be surviving, Ive used 5 of them

 

[BooneDonk]

well so far I seem to be surviving, Ive used 5 of them

I’m with you, except I’ve used 8 of them. Filter into these as they last 2-4 weeks for me. Only leaves a mark when I hit a vein with the damn needle. I really don’t know how the IV druggies do it all the time….

 

[X3rocks]

The black mark on a package doesn't really prove anything. You can buy the packages from china pre marked. As well as packages that don't change even when they are properly sterilized.

I dont guess we can say syringes are sterile either unless we send them to get tested.