Food Noise vs Hunger — How do you tell the Difference?

[Danger1212]

Before GLPs I thought I was hungry all the time. But looking back… I think a lot of it was just food noise.

I could eat a full meal and still be thinking about what was next. Not physically hungry, just always wanting something.

Now I’m starting to notice a difference, but I’m still trying to figure out where that line is between real hunger and just mental cravings.

How do you guys tell the difference?

 

[Reidyontour]

For me, if I feel hungry I ask myself do I want/need a meal, if I just fancy a tasty snack then I assume food noise is more likely.

 

[Danger1212]

For me, if I feel hungry I ask myself do I want/need a meal, if I just fancy a tasty snack then I assume food noise is more likely.

That’s a solid way to look at it. Did that distinction become clearer once you started GLPs, or did it take time to recognize?

 

[lessthanhalf]

After losing nearly 80 kilos over 4 years and being on 4 different GLP drugs over the past 18 months I still do not really understand what people mean by food noise. I understand hunger and chronic low grade hunger during and after weight loss, and even extreme hunger that happens after large weight loss and eating triggering foods, but still confused about what people call food noise. I find when I start eating less and losing weight I tend to get obsessed about trying to find low calorie high protein foods I can still eat, but it does not sound the same. GLP's make me less hungry and I get a lot less cravings for unhealthy foods that I have banned myself from eating. The closest I can get to it is just less time spent thinking about food or being hungry due to GLP's.

 

[Danger1212]

After losing nearly 80 kilos over 4 years and being on 4 different GLP drugs over the past 18 months I still do not really understand what people mean by food noise. I understand hunger and chronic low grade hunger during and after weight loss, and even extreme hunger that happens after large weight loss and eating triggering foods, but still confused about what people call food noise. I find when I start eating less and losing weight I tend to get obsessed about trying to find low calorie high protein foods I can still eat, but it does not sound the same. GLP's make me less hungry and I get a lot less cravings for unhealthy foods that I have banned myself from eating. The closest I can get to it is just less time spent thinking about food or being hungry due to GLP's.

I appreciate you sharing that; Especially with that kind of experience behind it. The ‘less time thinking about food’ part is probably the closest thing I’m starting to notice too. Appreciate you breaking that down.

 

[sheilarae74]

Before I took reta, I thought about food mostly when I knew I couldn't have it. Like I was thinking about what I was gonna have when I finally could eat. Now, I will forget about food until I'm hungry. I don't really think about it to much anymore. I don't know if any of that makes sense but I think it is helping me recognize when I'm truly hungry because I actually NEED to eat and not just because I want to.

 

[Reidyontour]

That’s a solid way to look at it. Did that distinction become clearer once you started GLPs, or did it take time to recognize?

Definitely easier to separate the two for me when on the injections. It was less intrusive cravings over ultra processed snacks and more actual hunger sensations experienced. Something I'd not allowed to happen prior through some fear I had and the constant need to prepare to avoid it.

 

[Danger1212]

Before I took reta, I thought about food mostly when I knew I couldn't have it. Like I was thinking about what I was gonna have when I finally could eat. Now, I will forget about food until I'm hungry. I don't really think about it to much anymore. I don't know if any of that makes sense but I think it is helping me recognize when I'm truly hungry because I actually NEED to eat and not just because I want to.

Hey Sheilarae, That makes sense. I’m starting to notice that too. Just not thinking about food as much.

 

[Danger1212]

Definitely easier to separate the two for me when on the injections. It was less intrusive cravings over ultra processed snacks and more actual hunger sensations experienced. Something I'd not allowed to happen prior through some fear I had and the constant need to prepare to avoid it.

Reid, Sounds like it took the edge off the constant pull and made it easier to recognize real hunger. I can see that.

 

[Grogu]

With these medications, It can be difficult at times to differentiate between food noise and actual hunger. I think it’s partly because with the quieting of food noise when our body sends hunger signals, we think that the medication isn’t working or that it’s just food noise returning.

The first thing I do is think about when my last meal or snack was. If it’s longer than 3 to 5 hours, I then think about if my body has any physical symptoms of hunger (headache, grumbling stomach, low energy). If it appears that it might be actually hunger, I think about the healthiest thing I have in the house to eat. If that sounds good, then I feed myself something healthy. If the food doesn’t sound tempting or if I’m experiencing a tigger (stress, boredom, etc.) I usually wait a few minutes so see if the feeling passes.

I figure that if I eat the healthiest thing in the house, what’s the worst thing? I gave my body something good.

 

[Jonny5000]

For me it's I'm not thinking about food anymore. I'm not hungry most of the time. I try to eat at the same time of the day, so it don't forget it and get to my daily nutrients goals

 

[5byfive]

Both food noise and hunger signals are much lower. I focus more on when and what I should eat. I know how many calories I need to eat daily and I focus on getting that amount. Honestly, the last thing I want to do at this point is undershoot my needs. It's as sure a way to sabotage my goals as overeating and a lot more likely on the meds.

 

[Summer48]

I get the always hungry bit and yes even after a meal I would still think I’m hungry. It was like I was missing something. If I ate something I wasn’t particularly interested in I felt I hadn’t had a meal but on glps I can eat something I’m not too happy with but feel I couldn’t go and finish off with something else. I think being hungry is when your stomach sort of has that empty slightly painful feeling. Before these glps I could honestly eat all day and feel so full and ill going to bed. Didn’t do I all the time of course did have a little willpower

 

[anhydrous]

I think its pretty easy to draw the distinction. I categorize food noise as seeking behavior. I would think about food as if it were sex or a drug. Something to seek out that would be a lot of fun. Before being on a glp1 I would spend a huge amount of time thinking about, fantasizing about, and looking forward to the next time that I could have some. As soon as I woke up it was what sounds good for breakfast. I'd eat a big breakfast and then go about my day. During my day I'd daydream about what sounds good for lunch. It didn't just apply to that day either. I am the cook of the house and I'd find myself daydreaming about what I'm going to make for dinner tomorrow, for someone's birthday, for some holiday, or just because it was the weekend and I'd have extra capacity to make something delightful. It was all about seeking out the next thing, what I wanted rather than what I needed or what I should have. If I wanted chocolate cake I would buy a cake mix and bake one. I would eat as much of it as I wanted, and I wanted it all, but I would politely compromise with myself and just eat half to make sure everyone else had the opportunity.

Nowadays I just care a lot less, and one example that comes to mind is bacon. I haven't cooked bacon since January whereas I used to cook bacon once a week like clockwork.

 

[alphaamigo]

For me, I don't mind being hungry. Hunger is a natural feeling, a signal that your body is ready to take in calories. Hunger alone can almost be pleasant, a rumbling in the tummy. Food noise is different. Food noise is waking up and not caring about anything but eating breakfast. It is being panicked that I will go to the party and be hungry and not be able to enjoy myself. It is my thoughts lingering on how nice and creamy that cream cheese would be on my Oreos until I can't take it. When this goes away, life is so much easier. I do not like it when the GLP1s suppress hunger to the point where I can't think about food, even healthy food that my body needs. It disturbs me. However, it is glorious to be able to finish cooking without having eaten half the food from the pot due to food noise.

 

[tendency]

Before GLPs I thought I was hungry all the time. But looking back… I think a lot of it was just food noise.

I could eat a full meal and still be thinking about what was next. Not physically hungry, just always wanting something.

Now I’m starting to notice a difference, but I’m still trying to figure out where that line is between real hunger and just mental cravings.

How do you guys tell the difference?

For me it's simply this: hunger is a physical sensation (like, say, growling stomach). Food noise is the cyclical mental rumination and obsessive thinking about food, what's next to eat, "oh wow I'd sure love to eat this" or just thinking of well, food in general when not hungry in a way that's intrusive and causes mental discomfort or agitation.

 

[BNLFL]

I just understand the appetite suppression I get being on Reta. I do feel full often, eat way smaller portions and feel full. Zero desire for fried foods, ice cream and all that stuff. Snack like crackers, chips and related between meals are gone. I pin Fridays, and can tell a slight difference Thursday dinner time I'm a tad more hungry.

 

[Danger1212]

I just understand the appetite suppression I get being on Reta. I do feel full often, eat way smaller portions and feel full. Zero desire for fried foods, ice cream and all that stuff. Snack like crackers, chips and related between meals are gone. I pin Fridays, and can tell a slight difference Thursday dinner time I'm a tad more hungry.

Brother, I too have recently noticed that the things that used to destroy my diet in between meals (ice cream, soda, chips etc.) I no longer have the craving to snack on!

Great info, thanks!

 

[clemochi]

For me it's simply this: hunger is a physical sensation (like, say, growling stomach). Food noise is the cyclical mental rumination and obsessive thinking about food, what's next to eat, "oh wow I'd sure love to eat this" or just thinking of well, food in general when not hungry in a way that's intrusive and causes mental discomfort or agitation.

Exactly this. Stomach growling, feeling a bit weak = actual hunger, intrusive thoughts about cheesecake or something in the absence of those sensations = food noise

I do feel personally that my past with starting off my weight loss via CICO alone helped me on the introspection needed to identify these sorts of things, along with many other aspects of my previously disordered eating habits. Unfortunately that introspection alone ended up not being enough to overcome my impulses after a certain point, but I believe it's useful info for later when I reach goal and scale back dose for maintenance. Peptides are so good at knocking out both the food noise and genuine hunger that I'd definitely have found understanding my relationship with food and what triggers overeating for me, to be more difficult if I started with the peps right off the bat.

 

[Cannonball72]

Before GLPs I thought I was hungry all the time. But looking back… I think a lot of it was just food noise.

I could eat a full meal and still be thinking about what was next. Not physically hungry, just always wanting something.

Now I’m starting to notice a difference, but I’m still trying to figure out where that line is between real hunger and just mental cravings.

How do you guys tell the difference?

This is the best explanation I have ever seen put into words.