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kaahhllll said:
我决定今天再服用0.5毫克。如果周五感觉不错,我可能会再服用0.5毫克。我的理由是:

除了这个假期周末,我一直严格控制卡路里摄入,几乎没有食欲。我的体重仍然在快速下降,我不想冒险加快下降速度,因为我觉得这已经有点过头了。我还意识到,食物的  体积 并没有改变,改变的是卡路里密度。另外,现在我再次查看三星健康应用,发现我摄入的液体卡路里相当多。昨天和今天都很轻松,一直保持在舒适的热量缺口范围内,我想在情况发生变化之前,我会继续服用0.5毫克。

现在来看看数据!

即使在我那三天放纵的假期周末之后,我的净体重仍然下降了1磅,目前为276.6磅,其中包括肌肉增长。周五我会再来汇报一下我的感觉!
记录得真好!这真的有助于做出更好的决定。我几周后就要去做一年后的骨密度扫描了,到时候我会把我的记录发上来,包括我记录的所有数据以及过程中的起伏变化。
 
Fisherman2356 said:
“GH(生长激素)真是好东西——真希望我能一直用下去。”你的英语写得这么好,所以我猜你住在西方国家(而不是瑞士),我很难相信你连每月30美元都负担不起。我刚买了2盒10支装的GH(每支36IU,通常他们会多装10%,所以每支基本上是40IU),一共320美元,含运费。每天用2-3IU,应该够用将近一年。即便如此,你还是负担不起?
我生活在西方世界,年轻的时候也曾经历过一段极度贫困的时期,那时我不得不在药品和食物之间做出选择。我记得当时为了买汽油去上班,不得不在车里、沙发垫子缝里翻箱倒柜地找钱,那可是我那份最低工资的工作。我还记得整整一个星期都只能吃斑豆。那时候,3美元或30美元对我来说都如同百万,因为我连这些钱都没有。

你问别人是不是真的买不起灰色假发,就好比一个自掏腰包的人问你是不是真的不能每月花1300美元买名牌假发一样。
 
zpped said:
Good job tracking everything. It really helps make better decisions. I'm getting my 1 year Dexa in a couple weeks and I'll post my log with everything thing I tracked and the ups and downs.
Hey, thanks! The only way I can be sure I am staying as safe as I can is by being as thorough as possible and as informed as possible. I'll soon be making an appointment for a full blood panel, as I haven't been to a doctor for myself in close to a decade.

usually weigh in twice a day, one in the morning and one at night. I don't really care about the weight other than on Tuesdays(shot day). But having some idea of body composition, whether its totally accurate or just a ballpark, helps me make decisions on macros and hydration, but also see some progress from the gym. 1lb/day for 3 weeks straight was a little concerning, but seeing my muscle mass remain the same or increase put my mind at ease. I raw dogged the calorie deficit thing a few years ago and saw pretty solid results. But complacency killed that for me. Staying on top of tracking calories and weighing in keeps me motivated and keeps me honest with myself.

I'm also trying really hard to build a healthy relationship with food rather than an ED. I still eat whatever the hell I want, I just limit the amount of it.

However, there is still a chance that the vial I purchased was a total dud, and this is all complete willpower and placebo effect. 🤷‍♂️😂
 
zpped said:
I was referring to the last part of the conversation, glucose A1c and triglycerides.

But, also https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...-glp-1-meds-are-making-their-genitals-bigger/

(I'm not claiming there is anything to that though)
Interesting - I'll go ahead and make that claim for HGH - was in a long term relationship last time I ran it and she noticed a remarkable difference. Stan Efferding has also said he's fairly certain although neither of us were testing for or measuring to verify LOL
 
PackmanJohnny said:
? GLP1s affect bone(r) growth? I havent read of either occurrence.
Ya gotta look at some of these guys before weights. 1st there's the ability to see it! 2nd is loss in the FUPA area.

Fatty Upper Penis Area
 
kaahhllll said:
Week four.

Week three was a little weird for me. Still not having much for cravings or hunger, still hovering around 1200cal/day, yet I seem to be holding onto a lot of water weight. My lowest weight was on Sunday at 275.6, a total of 24.2lbs lost in 21 days. But since then I gained back up to 280.4 and have been steadily at around 278 for a couple days. I noticed I haven't been peeing nearly as much as I was for the first 2 weeks. I think my carb intake was a little high as I stopped going protein heavy and had some pasta for a few nights.

Needless to say, I know I am still making progress as far as fat loss goes, and considering I still feel the Reta is effective, I opted for 0.5mg again for week four. Today was 277.6lbs. I'm going to cut back on carbs again, add more fiber to offset what carbs I do have, and try to cram in more water throughout the day, with a little Celtic salt mixed in. I am averaging 1.0lbs per day and gaining muscle mass, so I am pretty comfortable with current progress and rate of loss. I'll check back on my next milestone!
Congratulations, welcome, and good luck to you!🙋🏼‍♀️
 
nonyabizznez said:
Ya gotta look at some of these guys before weights. 1st there's the ability to see it! 2nd is loss in the FUPA area.

Fatty Upper Penis Area
LMAO Fupa hahaha - Yeah thats mentioned in that forbes Article, but we're talking about organ growth, not fat loss. the guys in that article mentioned they knew measurements before they gained the weight and had differences. I didnt lose any weight while on GH, and let me say, there is a permanent difference.

With the GLPs I imagine it could be either or both.
 
Fisherman2356 said:
Are you serious, or you joking? Real question btw.
About what?

neither - but theres context. I was working with an IFBB Pro Coach while on GH, had me on an aggressive eating plan, trying to recomp. I did get a bit leaner visually in the mirror, but I was eating 6 meals and about 350-400g Protein daily, along with 40mins stairs 7 days/week. Scale didnt move but my body did change a bit. I also wasnt on a high dose - 2IU/day, 5 on/2 off. Usually for serious fat loss you're probably wanting to run 3-5IU daily.

Organ growth was noticeable for partner and was permanent. Can confirm, was not fat loss around it lol.
 
PackmanJohnny said:
Organ growth was noticeable for partner and was permanent. Can confirm, was not fat loss around it lol.
This is what I was talking about, but I find it bizarre if true. What age were you when you were taking HG? I doubt a 60-year-old would see anything in that front/al even if they took 20IU daily.
 
Fisherman2356 said:
This is what I was talking about, but I find it bizarre if true. What age were you when you were taking HG? I doubt a 60-year-old would see anything in that front/al even if they took 20IU daily.
I also found it bizarre, but there it is. It hasnt been studied much directly, and I doubt anyone in the medical community would fund it, but when I heard a handful of other people had experienced it, I was more convinced.

I dont advertise it as something that will for sure happen, but seems like enough people have experienced it to say it at least it happens to a certain number of people for some reason or another.

EDIT: mid to late 20's, I think 27-28?
 
My Friday update:

I am not going to re-up on my dose today and will continue at 0.5mg next week. I'm down 0.6lbs to 276.0 this morning from Tuesday, it seems like my shitty weekend was just that, a shifty weekend. I'm having no issues staying ij my defecit, and any time I have felt hungry is because I literally haven't eaten all day long. I have been struggling to get over 1,200 calories a day.

Today also marks the completion of 1 full month. And I've gotta say, the results are surprising to say the least. I think its safe to say that with the increase of body water and muscle mass, I have likely lost 30lbs total, and have lost a net of 25.8. If it continues at this rate, I'll hit my goal by the end of the year, and then look into peps for focusing on muscle growth and dive deeper into repairing my body. I have more Reta, GLOW, CJC-1295/Ipamorelin, and Melanotan2 in the mail as we speak. Continuing at my current dose of reta, I have 9 more weeks remaining in my first vial, but I'm not sure I want to push it that far. It's in a V2 pen and I feel like that's a bit safer than if I were pulling from a vial each time. Thoughts on extended storage of a reconned vial in a pen? It's stored in a mini fridge inside of a case, sees light for a total of 1-2min per week.
 
One month plus nine weeks is about 93 days. So you should be fine. I would still use it, even with a regular vial. And I agree the pen is more sterile.
 
Calm Logic said:
One month plus nine weeks is about 93 days. So you should be fine. I would still use it, even with a regular vial. And I agree the pen is more sterile.
Yeah I'd get 14 weeks/doses total out of it at 0.5mg, as it was 7mg total according to the COA. 98 total days. I just ordered 10mg vials, assuming I stay at 0.5mg(not realistic) would everyone feel comfortable going 140 days on a vial? In a pen.
 
You should order little tiny baby vials 🙂

But seriously, 10 mg vials is very low. For 140 days, 20 stabs with a pen would be my max, so it could work fine.
 
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Calm Logic said:
You should order little tiny baby vials 🙂

But seriously, 10 mg vials is very low. For 140 days, 20 stabs with a pen would be my max, so it could work fine.
Thought about ordering 5's, but I don't want to have to recon that often. Also, eventually I'd increase dose and be back to like 10 weeks/vial
 
kaahhllll said:
Yeah I'd get 14 weeks/doses total out of it at 0.5mg, as it was 7mg total according to the COA. 98 total days. I just ordered 10mg vials, assuming I stay at 0.5mg(not realistic) would everyone feel comfortable going 140 days on a vial? In a pen.
You couldn't possibly be losing 25LBs/MO on 0.5mg weekly Reta. So it's either placebo (meaning you are forcing yourself to think that Reta is being effective, sort of increase in willpower) or you are doing other stuff besides Reta. So, sooner or later you will find that 0.5mg RETA will not result in any lost weight whatsoever, and you will find yourself titrating up. Never heard a case where someone reached their goal on 0.5mg or even 2mg's of Reta per week.
 
Fisherman2356 said:
You couldn't possibly be losing 25LBs on 0.5mg weekly Reta. So it's either placebo (meaning you are forcing yourself to think that Reta is being effective, sort of increase in willpower) unless you are doing other stuff besides Reta. So, sooner or later you will find that 0.5mg RETA will not result in any lost weight whatsoever, and you will find yourself titrating up. Never heard a case where someone reached their goal on 0.5mg or even 2mg's of Reta per week.
I have said numerous times that I feel like a lot of this is will power, however the lack of cravings and hunger lead me to believe otherwise. I decided I wanted to stay as low as possible for as long as possible, and understand that I will eventually be titrating up. Once I stop seeing results I'll move to 1.0mg. I'm strictly going off of feel currently, and it feels right.
 
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