我想我还是别再囤货了。

[Pixel-pocket]

所以我目前服用的是Tirz，够用十年，剂量也是最大剂量。我试过一瓶R-30，时间不够长，剂量调整也不够精准，所以没能获得有意义且稳定的体验，但足以让我知道它不会给我带来任何特别的副作用，而且大约8毫克就开始起效，这正是我想要的剂量。我一直打算继续服用Tirz，把Reta冷冻起来，等到Reta获批上市，并在大众市场推广足够长的时间，让我们对它有更多了解之后，再考虑换用Reta。我喜欢慢慢囤货，也就是每隔一两个月在价格合适的时候买一套，如果剂量达到十年上限（就像我之前服用Tirz那样）就停止囤货。

我现在Reta的剂量已经够用五年了，但我想就此打住吧。我知道Tirz就是Tirz，它就像蟑螂药一样，在冷冻室里能保存很久，你可以把它冷冻起来，这样就能用比你实际剂量高得多的药瓶了，它在冷冻室里不会降解太多，而且它的生产过程也没什么大问题。我知道囤积Tirz基本没问题。

但是每次讨论到Reta的时候，都会有人说“嘿，这东西很奇怪，而且很敏感”。有时候即使加了Hospira，它也会变浑浊，可能是因为赋形剂里含有盐之类的东西，会破坏它。它要么不适合冷冻，要么冷冻后45天就会严重降解。而且有时候它降解得非常慢，有时候又会降解得特别快，真是让人摸不着头脑。

我之所以还没用它，是因为早期阶段它的作用机制和安全性都存在很多不确定性，而且我们对它的了解远不如对那些存在时间更长的东西那么深入。不过，我想也许正是这些原因，也正是我目前没有大量囤积的原因。

我毫不怀疑，当下一代热门产品问世时，我也会想囤一些，因为哇哦。但我打算把“新品”的囤积量限制在两年以内。

10年？难道两年后药效不会减弱吗？

 

[Pixel-pocket]

我也有同感。

冷冻两年后难道不会开始变质，从而失去效力吗？

 

[leokitcat]

Will it really last 10 years in a regular freezer? Sorry there's just been conflicting reports in the past and no one has been able to test keeping it 10 years long and then testing it.

 

[BNLFL]

Doesn't it start to degrade in the freezer after 2yrs so loses potency?

Peter from Janoshik labs said peptides will last decades in a freezer not reconstituted.

 

[RetCurious]

Peter from Janoshik labs said peptides will last decades in a freezer not reconstituted.

The caveat being reta is a more complicated and fragile peptide that has been available for only 3 years. Nobody really knows what it will do in 5-10 years.

 

[BNLFL]

The caveat being reta is a more complicated and fragile peptide that has been available for only 3 years. Nobody really knows what it will do in 5-10 years.

True story.

 

[Pixel-pocket]

Peter from Janoshik labs said peptides will last decades in a freezer not reconstituted.

It lasts but does it keep its potency?

 

[BNLFL]

It lasts but does it keep its potency?

You should watch the video and some testing on this subject then.

 

[sheilarae74]

Doesn't it start to degrade in the freezer after 2yrs so loses potency?

It changes depending on who you ask. I don't think anyone knows for sure.

 

[ftb.979]

can you share what WW stands for so i can go look? i do love me a good gb group

Any luck?

 

[TeresaHip]

Idk if you are on peppys.org or not but that is where I got the TG links to some good GBs.

I can never join because it only gives me login. I've tried for weeks.

 

[bbbilly]

Any luck?

Wild White group on TG

 

[BNLFL]

Any luck?

I've said it before, they don't want their name mentioned on public forums.

Wild White group on TG

Have you joined there and read the rules or anything? That's why we abbreviate with WW.

 

[CMA Pooky]

Yes, please change it to WW.

 

[ftb.979]

I've said it before, they don't want their name mentioned on public forums.

Have you joined there and read the rules or anything? That's why we abbreviate with WW.

Yes, I read that previously here. Ive previously searched T G no luck . I'll keep trying. Ty

 

[BNLFL]

Yes, I read that previously here. Ive previously searched T G no luck . I'll keep trying. Ty

They're there, just a different way to get there.

 

[cujet]

但需要注意的是，reta 是一种结构更复杂、性质更不稳定的肽，而且问世至今只有 3 年。没有人真正知道它在 5 到 10 年后会如何发展。

Reta蛋白非常稳定。在98.7华氏度（约37摄氏度）的温度下，它在人体内至少能保持5周的稳定性。测试表明，在冰箱中复原后，它至少可以保存90天。

 

[5byfive]

Can't you diet properly after being less weight, if not then I would say its more a physiological issue then glp can fix.

Spoken like someone that has never struggled with food noise. I lost all my weight without GLPs and was maintaining it and would have continued to do so. Adding Tirz substantially improved my quality of life. It went from a constant fight with food noise to being ae to focus on a healthy diet without constant worry about being hungry.

But I'm probably wasting my time explaining. I can't decide if you are a troll or if you genuinely just have a garbage take on almost every issue. Probably a bit of both I would guess.

 

[5byfive]

Say whatever you want. Once again you dont know me. I dont know you. You reply was just to argue.

My reply was not argumentative but intended to push back at your behavior. Honestly, it could have been more constructivly worded, so I'll try again. Your posts have a tendency to be unnecessarily argumentive and condescending. Most of us have disagreements on at least some things and most of us try and share facts and opinions in a respectful manner without talking down to people. Whether you intend it or not, your posts to not seem designed to elicit reaction rather to advance any discussion. I've said my piece and I'll leave it at that.

 

[BNLFL]

My reply was not argumentative but intended to push back at your behavior. Honestly, it could have been more constructivly worded, so I'll try again. Your posts have a tendency to be unnecessarily argumentive and condescending. Most of us have disagreements on at least some things and most of us try and share facts and opinions in a respectful manner without talking down to people. Whether you intend it or not, your posts to not seem designed to elicit reaction rather to advance any discussion. I've said my piece and I'll leave it at that.

Absolutely 100% spot on. I could see it in the first post I read of his. Reminds me a little of couple of members here or were here.