我想我还是别再囤货了。

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所以我目前服用的是Tirz,够用十年,剂量也是最大剂量。我试过一瓶R-30,时间不够长,剂量调整也不够精准,所以没能获得有意义且稳定的体验,但足以让我知道它不会给我带来任何特别的副作用,而且大约8毫克就开始起效,这正是我想要的剂量。我一直打算继续服用Tirz,把Reta冷冻起来,等到Reta获批上市,并在大众市场推广足够长的时间,让我们对它有更多了解之后,再考虑换用Reta。我喜欢慢慢囤货,也就是每隔一两个月在价格合适的时候买一套,如果剂量达到十年上限(就像我之前服用Tirz那样)就停止囤货。

我现在Reta的剂量已经够用五年了,但我想就此打住吧。我知道Tirz就是Tirz,它就像蟑螂药一样,在冷冻室里能保存很久,你可以把它冷冻起来,这样就能用比你实际剂量高得多的药瓶了,它在冷冻室里不会降解太多,而且它的生产过程也没什么大问题。我知道囤积Tirz基本没问题。

但是每次讨论到Reta的时候,都会有人说“嘿,这东西很奇怪,而且很敏感”。有时候即使加了Hospira,它也会变浑浊,可能是因为赋形剂里含有盐之类的东西,会破坏它。它要么不适合冷冻,要么冷冻后45天就会严重降解。而且有时候它降解得非常慢,有时候又会降解得特别快,真是让人摸不着头脑。

我之所以还没用它,是因为早期阶段它的作用机制和安全性都存在很多不确定性,而且我们对它的了解远不如对那些存在时间更长的东西那么深入。不过,我想也许正是这些原因,也正是我目前没有大量囤积的原因。

我毫不怀疑,当下一代热门产品问世时,我也会想囤一些,因为哇哦。但我打算把“新品”的囤积量限制在两年以内。
 
I'm done hoarding Reta with 10-13 (7,680mg) years depending on dose. Now, I have a heck of a time passing a killer price from a GB.
 
I don't think theres much point in having 2-3+ years worth any way, by then there will be something better/more stable/more effective/more accessible/cheaper... the weight loss meds seem to be booming like crazy recently with more and more coming out.
 
ALVJAY said:
I don't think theres much point in having 2-3+ years worth any way, by then there will be something better/more stable/more effective/more assessable/cheaper... the weight loss meds seem to be booming like crazy recently with more and more coming out.

That’s short sighted.

If you’re at maintenance, the only thing that practically matters to the initial goal is maintaining. The latest and greatest is irrelevant.

Running out of supply is catastrophic to the initial goal. It’s hard to improve accessibility beyond already having it.

Reta or Tirz going from $2.50-2.75/week to $0/week is financially irrelevant.
 
I have simular issues. I hoard reta too. I am on tirz for maintenance and I love it. I have never even tried reta but man it is popular. Almost every new peptide user I meet is on what they incorrectly call GIP-3. The thing is if and when society breaks down, reta will be like cigarettes in prison. Gold, silver and retta will be the currency. Whenever I need to bump up a peptide order to get free shipping I usually add reta or more tirz.

I wish you luck quitting hoarding reta. I don't know if I could quit if I wanted to.
 
I like your thought process about not trying Reta until it becomes approved. I’m thinking in the same direction as you, especially with the higher heart rate increase side effects on reta. My heart rate is already slightly increased on tirz. How’s your experience with grey tirz vs mounjaro?
 
BNLFL said:
I'm done hoarding Reta with 10-13 (7,680mg) years depending on dose. Now, I have a heck of a time passing a killer price from a GB.
That recent WW GB helped get my stash numbers up crazy. Can't wait for my wife and I to use it in 10 years.
 
I like your style, if I had the money id do exactly the same! So far I have to purchase every 2-3 months to hoard, preserves very well so I don't see why not!
 
woundcarping said:
Not with my weight!😂
No, I think I have lack of restraint when buying this stuff. I don't think, I know. 😁
 
randompersonrandom said:
So I've GOT ten years max dose of tirz, which is what I'm on. I've tried out a vial of r-30, not long enough or on a smart enough titration to get meaningful and consistent experience, but long enough to know that it doesn't cause me any particular side effects and starts to take effect at around 8 mg, which is all I actually wanted. It's always been my intention to stay on tirz, stash the reta in the freezer, and maybe switch to it someday when it's been approved and has been out in the general population long enough for us to know a lot more about it . And I do like to slow-hoard, which is to buy a kit every month or two when there's a good price, and stopping if I get to ten years max dose like I did with tirz.

I'm at five years mid-dose stash with reta, but I think Ima stop there. Like, I know that tirz is tirz is tirz, it's a cockroach, it lives forever in a good freezer, you can freeze it after recon so you can work with way-higher-than-your-dosage vials, it doesn't degrade much in the freezer, and there's not a lot of drama with its manufacture. I know it's basically fine to doomsday-hoard tirz.

But every new discussion about reta is "hey, this is weird and sensitive." Sometimes it goes cloudy even with hospira cause maybe the excipient has some salts or something which will wreck it. It doesn't freeze well or it does and degrades a lot after 45 days. Also sometimes it doesn't degrade very fast at all and other times it degrades REALLY fast, let's spin the wheel.

The reason I'm not using it yet is because of all of the early-years uncertainty on how this stuff acts and whether it's safe and the fact that we don't really know as much about it as we do about stuff that's been around for longer. But I'm thinking maybe those ought to be the reasons I don't actually stash a lot of it yet, either.

I have no doubt that when the next big things come out, I'll want to stash those too because wheee. But I think I'll cap "this is new" stashes at two years,
We need to start a trend of buying vintage reta from last year, for immediate consumption.
 
We are of a similar mindset. I am a newbie, but I already have 4 years of Tirz, which I love and about the same in Reta (FOMO as I haven't even tried it yet). And I still find myself scanning the vendor posts every day looking for more. But I have decided to wait until I figure the group buy thing out to buy more, despite myriad temptations. Now that I have graduated to apprentice and can hang out with the cool kids, I have more doors open to me.
 
Hi, my name’s Danger1212… and I’m addicted to R. 👋

It started innocent. “just 1mg, just to see what happens.”

Next thing I know I’m scheduling my week around injection day like it’s a national holiday.

“I can quit anytime I want…”

…but also, what if I just bump it to 2mg… strictly for research purposes. 😅

Food noise? Gone.

Self-control? Questionable.

Sleep? Optional apparently.

And listen…I’m not hoarding.

I just like to be… prepared.

That’s not a stash, that’s a strategic reserve.This is all strictly for research.

Anyway, thanks for letting me share. I’ll be in the corner sipping electrolytes, organizing my “totally not a hoard” by expiration date, and pretending I don’t already have my next dose planned out.
 
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