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1% a week when you have a large surplus is my general tipping point from moderate to aggressive.
A 5'4" 140lb person losing 2lb a week is aggressive. A 6'1" 360lb person losing 2lb a week is not.
我想我还是别再囤货了。
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1% a week when you have a large surplus is my general tipping point from moderate to aggressive.
A 5'4" 140lb person losing 2lb a week is aggressive. A 6'1" 360lb person losing 2lb a week is not.
2.6 isn't terrible. It's when you see the 4-5lb/week ones. I just looked at my spreadsheet, looks like I'm 1.5-2lbs/week with a couple of 1lb and a few 2.4.Chocolate Boy Wonder said:
Over the last 20 weeks my rolling 7 day weight has ranged from -6lb to + 4lb, with the average being 2.6-2.75lb/week.
This thread was enlightening and entertaining. I'm definitely a lot closer to a hoarder, with buying stacks of meds every time I go to India, most of which I never need to use [antibiotics for instance]. Strategically, it might make sense to consider that these GLPs would become outdated, archaic, or even downright obsolete in a few years. This is even more likely a definite possibility considering the AI advancements in research. However, true strategy requires critical-divergent thinking, looking at ALL variables involved. Yes, it's guaranteed that there WILL be easier-to-take, maybe even oral versions, super-efficacious, elite medications coming to the market. It's even more obvious that some of the advancements WILL include multiple benefits with a single pill. [Just as an example- there is an Undecanoate ester for Testosterone already available.]
Heck, when humanity achieves singularity, all this will be moot.
However, there is ONE major problem with the assumption that this is the true and most prudent strategy. It relies on the belief that people WILL have access to the latest revolutionary biohack that they have today. Where's the guarantee that the grey market will remain unmolested, or that people will have the liberty to take control of their lives as much as they can now? Given how things are progressing, and the clear upward trend of socialistic/collectivist tyrannical policies, [EU], it is far likelier that free-thinking people would find themselves curtailed, constrained, and subdued. Already, customs seizures, shutdowns, whatever are real. Prescription policing has been going on here for ages. Don't even get me started on places like the UK or Canada, where public healthcare is the norm- [You don't own your bodies there.]
Therefore, it's my contention that while yes, strategically it makes sense to avail yourself of only the best meds available, phronetically, the best choice is to stock up on the meds you know will work, and when it is WITH YOU, USAGE IS GUARANTEED.
Heck, when humanity achieves singularity, all this will be moot.
However, there is ONE major problem with the assumption that this is the true and most prudent strategy. It relies on the belief that people WILL have access to the latest revolutionary biohack that they have today. Where's the guarantee that the grey market will remain unmolested, or that people will have the liberty to take control of their lives as much as they can now? Given how things are progressing, and the clear upward trend of socialistic/collectivist tyrannical policies, [EU], it is far likelier that free-thinking people would find themselves curtailed, constrained, and subdued. Already, customs seizures, shutdowns, whatever are real. Prescription policing has been going on here for ages. Don't even get me started on places like the UK or Canada, where public healthcare is the norm- [You don't own your bodies there.]
Therefore, it's my contention that while yes, strategically it makes sense to avail yourself of only the best meds available, phronetically, the best choice is to stock up on the meds you know will work, and when it is WITH YOU, USAGE IS GUARANTEED.
There will always be the internet for stuff you want, and always has been. @Smiter How old are you?
A few months ago, I had to leave TG for a while to recover from the shock of what you could get, like "Xanax" that could be laced with fentanyl.BNLFL said:
这似乎是一个合理的假设。过去几十年里，网络监管一直在努力追赶。我认为，互联网之所以能保持“自由”，主要限制因素之一在于，很多监管工作仍然由人为主导。最近，加拿大突击搜查并查封了一批股票，而类似地，在美国，许多“实验室”也因违反“禁止”条款而被取缔。总之，我的观点是，即使考虑到其中的阴暗面，假设“自由互联网”就意味着“自由市场”，这或许并不明智。另一个例子是弗吉尼亚州，许多网站无法访问，因为法律禁止其自由运行。我记得昨天读到犹他州立法禁止使用VPN的网站。BNLFL said:
哦，对了，我今年44岁。
我只在 WBS 部分看到过，一些来自印度的广告很有趣，如果我没记错的话，你也有一些喜欢的。Calm Logic said:
掺有芬太尼的药片通常在美国生产/压制，并以“利他林”或“阿普唑仑”等名义出售给大学生。如果警方想找到毒贩，在发生致命的过量服用事件后，他们会检查受害者的TG、Signal等信息。但有些这类药片也会在网上出售。
这让我感到非常恶心，因为购买肽类药物的过程也一样。但从亚马逊等网站购买药物也是如此。有人因为从美国网站购买掺有芬太尼的药片而死亡。
这让我感到非常恶心，因为购买肽类药物的过程也一样。但从亚马逊等网站购买药物也是如此。有人因为从美国网站购买掺有芬太尼的药片而死亡。
需要有比我更有时间/耐心的人跟踪 @Smiter ，并对他的帖子进行精简版的总结。
哦？为什么？或许我可以稍微收敛一些……也许吧。5byfive said:
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随着口服双重激动剂（VK2735 和 Amycretin）在 2029/2030 年上市，礼来公司也已在研发口服马度肽（几乎可以肯定的是，口服瑞他曲肽也将问世），市场需求最终将不再依赖注射剂。保险公司和医生可能需要一些时间来适应，但 GLP-1 肽的时代终将过渡到每日口服小分子药物的时代。Thistley said:羡慕你们 囤了那么多货我才一年多的Reta、cagri和tirz，简直就是个穷光蛋……
这让我感觉好多了
即使现在，我预计大多数人仍然会选择口服 Wegovy，尽管其疗效不如注射剂 Tirzepatide。人们对针头的恐惧根深蒂固。
但如果没有保险或折扣，瑞他曲肽每月可能要花费 1000 美元以上，而且大多数保险公司在批准承保之前都会要求患者接受阶梯式治疗。许多人似乎计划在达到治疗目标后继续服用维持剂量。
因此，囤积药物的本能是可以理解的。
为了让你感觉好些，我新买了一瓶R50，还从我最喜欢的另一家供应商那里订购了3套R30套装。如果我没算错的话，我将拥有9080毫克的Reta。Thistley said:羡慕你们 囤了那么多货
这让我感觉好多了
BNLFL said:
别担心，总有一天你会实现的！
For now, I’m happy with a few-year supply of Reta. We have 2 generics (Ozempic) just approved in Canada & several more on the way. That’ll drive prices down. So in a few years, we may something even better. 
Either way, I don’t wanna have too many years stock cause I’ll probably have a power outage when I’m out of town and lose everything at some point lol
Either way, I don’t wanna have too many years stock cause I’ll probably have a power outage when I’m out of town and lose everything at some point lol
Lol...I'm over here with only 8 months worth of reta and 4-5 years worth of GHK-CU.
I wanna be a 
Reta hoarder too.
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