Using 1 pen for multiple cartridges

[mrmors]

My better half is currently using the standard insulin syringes, but for some random reason, injecting is now semi-painful for her. I bought her some slightly more expensive syringes thinking it might be that, as the peptide hasn't changes or using a different BAC etc, but she's still saying it's suddenly now painful, not mega painful, but uncomfortable. I'm using the same syringes and nothing has changed for me.

So after changing those syringes with no luck, I thought maybe I could buy her a gansulin/convipen (if I can find one in the UK), and get her to use the needle tips that are used for that, as she used to use the lily mounjaro pen and tips for months on end no issues.

So my question is, she currently uses per week, glow, tirz, reta - 3 vials. Is it practical/straight forward to make up 3x cartridges instead for these pens (I've never used one, but seen on youtube how to load prep a cartridge), and then swap them over out of the pen when needed? I didn't know whether the plunger mechanism was sort of locked into a postition for how much had been used on the last cartridge etc, so if you wanted to load in one 25% used vs one 50% used etc, whether this would cause any issues or how you would get it 'loaded' so to speak? Would you just keep turning the dial and depressing the button until it wont go any further, and then you know the plunger is in the right position?

Does anyone here use one pen for multiple peptides, or are people running multiple pens instead?

 

[thisaccountisntme]

Does anyone here use one pen for multiple peptides, or are people running multiple pens instead?

3 pens

1x Test

1x glp (tirz & reta)

1x cjc/ipa & Klow

You can reset the pens easily, just make sure you have everything labelled correctly as we have made mistakes over the years of injecting the wrong thing on the wrong day... nothing catastrophic for us, but it could be for someone else swapping vials

 

[CMA Pooky]

It would be easier to use 3 pens. If you use 1 pen for 3 cartridges, you would need to keep resetting the plunger everytime you use a particular cartridge.

 

[on2jinm]

My better half is currently using the standard insulin syringes, but for some random reason, injecting is now semi-painful for her. I bought her some slightly more expensive syringes thinking it might be that, as the peptide hasn't changes or using a different BAC etc, but she's still saying it's suddenly now painful, not mega painful, but uncomfortable. I'm using the same syringes and nothing has changed for me.

So after changing those syringes with no luck, I thought maybe I could buy her a gansulin/convipen (if I can find one in the UK), and get her to use the needle tips that are used for that, as she used to use the lily mounjaro pen and tips for months on end no issues.

So my question is, she currently uses per week, glow, tirz, reta - 3 vials. Is it practical/straight forward to make up 3x cartridges instead for these pens (I've never used one, but seen on youtube how to load prep a cartridge), and then swap them over out of the pen when needed? I didn't know whether the plunger mechanism was sort of locked into a postition for how much had been used on the last cartridge etc, so if you wanted to load in one 25% used vs one 50% used etc, whether this would cause any issues or how you would get it 'loaded' so to speak? Would you just keep turning the dial and depressing the button until it wont go any further, and then you know the plunger is in the right position?

Does anyone here use one pen for multiple peptides, or are people running multiple pens instead?

To expand on and concur with the opinion of @CMA Pooky, it’s going to be difficult to adjust a single pen to 3 cartridges, each with a different volume of liquid. For every dose, you’ll have to get the plunger into the correct position, which is easier said than done.

If you adjust the plunger with no needle inserted, you risk creating pressure in the cartridge that will be instantly relieved as soon as you screw the needle in, squirting some of the contents out. If you insert the needle first and then adjust the plunger, you might also end up wasting a little product as you fine-tune the plunger’s position.

In both scenarios you’ve wasted product and there will be some residue left on the needle that could cause discomfort when you inject. If you go the pen route, use 3.

In any case, I don't know if pens will solve the issue with painful injections, unless the length of the needle your better-half is using now is much longer than a 5 or 6mm pen needle. Maybe it's just a needle length or gauge issue(?)

 

[bokonon]

My better half is currently using the standard insulin syringes, but for some random reason, injecting is now semi-painful for her. I bought her some slightly more expensive syringes thinking it might be that, as the peptide hasn't changes or using a different BAC etc, but she's still saying it's suddenly now painful, not mega painful, but uncomfortable. I'm using the same syringes and nothing has changed for me.

So after changing those syringes with no luck, I thought maybe I could buy her a gansulin/convipen (if I can find one in the UK), and get her to use the needle tips that are used for that, as she used to use the lily mounjaro pen and tips for months on end no issues.

So my question is, she currently uses per week, glow, tirz, reta - 3 vials. Is it practical/straight forward to make up 3x cartridges instead for these pens (I've never used one, but seen on youtube how to load prep a cartridge), and then swap them over out of the pen when needed? I didn't know whether the plunger mechanism was sort of locked into a postition for how much had been used on the last cartridge etc, so if you wanted to load in one 25% used vs one 50% used etc, whether this would cause any issues or how you would get it 'loaded' so to speak? Would you just keep turning the dial and depressing the button until it wont go any further, and then you know the plunger is in the right position?

Does anyone here use one pen for multiple peptides, or are people running multiple pens instead?

I concur with others. You can use one pen with different cartridges, but it is a mess. You are better off with multiple pens. In the USA it is very easy to buy pens. I bought 3 pens. One of my pens is for testosterone. That is a special pen, as T is much thicker than e.g. reta or insulin. It also goes up to 80 units per injection and sometimes you need than the typical 60 units for insulin pens. Be aware that you waste some of the stuff with the transfer, and in the cartridge reta, etc. loses its potency faster than in the vial.

 

[mrmors]

Appreciate all the replies folks, thanks. Thought it might be the case that it's doable, but the plunger reset might mess with with different cartridge settings. I suppose I can ask her if she want to pay for 3 pens!!

@on2jinm it's a weird one, she's been using the regular 31g 8mm syringes no issues for weeks, and rotating sites, and the same vial, but all of a sudden she says its painful and nothing has changed, so I tried swapping the syringes, swapping the peptides etc but still no joy. And I've had no reactions to anything she's using as I used myself as a guinea pig for her. I know historically she used those 32g micro needles, I think they're 4mm, and she was on them for months on end no issues, so I was just wondering about the practicality of her using 3 peptides with a pen.

 

[CariocaLeftSeoul]

3 cartridges and one pen will make each injection take so much longer, when the whole point of using a pen is convenience. I like the V1s and they aren't as expensive as the convipens, so you can easily get 3 for the price of one convipen.

How long has she been dealing with pain? Is she rotating the injection sites? As a woman I can tell you that there are times of the month where the injections are very painful and I feel my teeny 34G 4mm needle go in and I keep moving spots until I find one spot that doesn't hurt as much. I haven't figured out yet when that happens, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same with her based on hormonal shifts. I also find that it's a lot less painful on my thighs than my stomach, but again, once a month for about a week everywhere it hurts to insert the needle. (I use mostly pens, but it's the same regardless if I use a pen or a syringe.)

 

[V6R3W]

Appreciate all the replies folks, thanks. Thought it might be the case that it's doable, but the plunger reset might mess with with different cartridge settings. I suppose I can ask her if she want to pay for 3 pens!!

@on2jinm it's a weird one, she's been using the regular 31g 8mm syringes no issues for weeks, and rotating sites, and the same vial, but all of a sudden she says its painful and nothing has changed, so I tried swapping the syringes, swapping the peptides etc but still no joy. And I've had no reactions to anything she's using as I used myself as a guinea pig for her. I know historically she used those 32g micro needles, I think they're 4mm, and she was on them for months on end no issues, so I was just wondering about the practicality of her using 3 peptides with a pen.

Start with V1s. They are cheap and quite serviceable. I think you can get them under $20 each still.

 

[CariocaLeftSeoul]

One of my pens is for testosterone. That is a special pen, as T is much thicker than e.g. reta or insulin. It also goes up to 80 units per injection and sometimes you need than the typical 60 units for insulin pens.

Which pen do you use for T and which needle size?

 

[bokonon]

Which pen do you use for T and which needle size?

I do not think I have posting privilege for the pen, but there is only one, you can search for it. Pen needle is a bit of the problem. I use 30g 5mm needles to inject SQ. 30g is too small really. I need to push it hard, but I could not find 29g pen needles.

 

[WLBLD]

I started with 1 pen, but switching it out you have the adjusting & I think that's how I wasted some. The manual pens are great also & some prefer them.

For pain, I suggest icing 1st so she doesn't feel it or at least as much. Also, for the pens they have tips that are 32g 4mm which are tiny. Someone here mentioned lower belly (was doing thighs & getting bruising) it has been so much better!! Hope you figure everything that makes it less painful for her!!

 

[CariocaLeftSeoul]

I know historically she used those 32g micro needles, I think they're 4mm, and she was on them for months on end no issues, so I was just wondering about the practicality of her using 3 peptides with a pen.

I have 34G 4mm needles, get them off amazon. Not a huge difference from 32, but they help.

 

[mrmors]

3 cartridges and one pen will make each injection take so much longer, when the whole point of using a pen is convenience. I like the V1s and they aren't as expensive as the convipens, so you can easily get 3 for the price of one convipen.

How long has she been dealing with pain? Is she rotating the injection sites? As a woman I can tell you that there are times of the month where the injections are very painful and I feel my teeny 34G 4mm needle go in and I keep moving spots until I find one spot that doesn't hurt as much. I haven't figured out yet when that happens, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same with her based on hormonal shifts. I also find that it's a lot less painful on my thighs than my stomach, but again, once a month for about a week everywhere it hurts to insert the needle. (I use mostly pens, but it's the same regardless if I use a pen or a syringe.)

She's had the pain for about a week and has been rotating injection sites, she'd been using the syringes for about 3weeks prior. She said she's going to have a go at her thigh tonight and see if she has any joy. I just sent her a link to a Convipen and she said 'I'm not spending any more money on it I'll just have to man up'

 

[BBA1969]

I'm definitely in the 1 pen per cartridge team.

Currently running 3 V3's (ghk-cu, ipa/cjc, kisspeptin) and loving them.

So much easier for the low volume + multiple times a week pins.

As an extra benefit you get quasi painless injections since those tiny neeles aren't blunted by pushing them though the rubber of the vial.

All the rest and certainly those over 0.5ml go through a regular syringe.

 

[Romulusguy]

As others have already noted, multiple pens are the way to go for ease of use, less mess, and better organization. But be warned: all pens are not equal! Make sure you test each pen for correct dosing. To do this, fill a 3ml pen vial with water, purge any remaining air, then jab the vial with a standard insulin syringe needle. Dial the pen to anywhere between 10 - 20 units, press the injector button, and it should fill the syringe to the units you specified on the pen.

I have a (very nice!) Gansulin pen for my "critical" peptide Tirz, and I use V3 and V4 pens for my non-critical or cyclical medicines. The Gansulin is much more expensive than my V3/V4 pens, has an auto injection feature, and is very accurate so I put my most important medicine in it. Having tested my other pens, they are great for organizing and non daily injections and, if I had to use them every day, that would be no problem. The Gansulin is just a swankier, nicer version of the "cheaper" pens.

While the pen needles are, in and of themselves, virtually painless, some people still feel pain if they see the needle enter the skin. A lot of people like the pens with the shroud cap, which is basically a circular piece of metal on a spring that allows the pen to be depressed against the skin without ever seeing the needle. However, in my experience, that spring mechanism jams/gunks up eventually. The solution to this also happens to be the solution to those who experience pain from injections. The BEST pen needles, for ZERO pain and the hidden needle shroud benefit, that will work on any pen, is the Gluco Care Safety Pen Tip. A VERY CLOSE second place, in my opinion, would be the One Care Pro Safety Pen Tip. Having tried every type/brand of needle there is, starting with insulin needles, to pen needles, and now these awesome safety pen tips, I can testify that these types of needles, and in particular the brands I noted, are fantastic for pain free, no show needle injections. And no, I do not own stocks or have any type of affiliate relationship with the brands, although for all the praise I give them, I SHOULD

 

[grizpat]

I like the one below and it's only $15. I bought their other V1 and V2 before and have like them- only $20 a piece. This website is my go to for all my supplies. I like their Verifine PLUS - 4mm 32G pen needles. Feels like nothing. And I also forgot: they put a special little treat and gift in each shiny box.

https://allthingspeptides.com/product/generic-pen-v1-60u/

 

[desinr-gal]

I got 5 pens off ali express for the price of one fancy pen, all V1, they work great. All pretty colors, so I can easily find which one I need.

I pre apply a 4-5% lidocaine cream you can get cheaply from any drugstore. Leave it on 20 mins it generally helps. I can always find a painless spot on my lower belly.

At the moment I am having the same problem on my hips though, everywhere I touch with my new Easy touch 31G 8mms It really stings. It never used to; they would go right in no problem.

I cannot tell if my nerves have gotten hyper sensitive there or whether it's a bad batch of

needles. I bought a box of 100 so I'm hoping not.. but even the lidocaine doesnt help.

I was going to sample them but US was out of stock.

Tomorrow I'll try one on my belly and then I'll know.

 

[WLBLD]

I have 34G 4mm needles, get them off amazon. Not a huge difference from 32, but they help.

I haven't see 34 yet. Do they bend?

 

[WLBLD]

I got 5 pens off ali express for the price of one fancy pen, all V1, they work great. All pretty colors, so I can easily find which one I need.

I pre apply a 4-5% lidocaine cream you can get cheaply from any drugstore. Leave it on 20 mins it generally helps. I can always find a painless spot on my lower belly.

At the moment I am having the same problem on my hips though, everywhere I touch with my new Easy touch 31G 8mms It really stings. It never used to; they would go right in no problem.

I cannot tell if my nerves have gotten hyper sensitive there or whether it's a bad batch of

needles. I bought a box of 100 so I'm hoping not.. but even the lidocaine doesnt help.

I was going to sample them but US was out of stock.

Tomorrow I'll try one on my belly and then I'll know.

Have you tried icing first? It helps! I used to lidocane then ice, but I'm only icing now.

Also, bring whatever it is to room temp + make sure to pinch. Much more comfortable

 

[desinr-gal]

I got 5 pens off ali express for the price of one fancy pen, all V1, they work great.

I pre apply a 4-5% lidocaine cream you can get cheaply from any drugstore. Leave it on 20 mins it generally helps. I can always find a painless spot on my lower belly.

At the moment I am having the same problem on my hips though, everywhere I touch with my new Easy touch 31G 8mms It really stings. It never used to; they would go right in no problem.

I cannot tell if my nerves have gotten hyper sensitive there or whether it's a bad batch of

needles. I bought a box of 100 so I'm hoping not.. but even the lidocaine doesnt help.

I was going to sample them but US was out of stock.

Tomorrow I'll try one on my belly and then I'll know.

Have you tried icing first? It helps! I used to lidocane then ice, but I'm only icing now.

Also, bring whatever it is to room temp + make sure to pinch. Much more comfortable

I havent tried icing yet, I guess I should try that.

I always pinch and temp has no effect for me, so I'd rather not age my peptide with higher temp than necessary.