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Anyone else notice at least 6 vendors...(make it 7, I just seen Walker Chemical has them) all have lavender caps on the R30? Like for 9 months everyone had red capped t30... explain to me again how everything doesn't come from the same 2 manufacturing plants? WAIT 8 now with SPB....
 
💯. At this point I just look at the MOQ and see who has the newest report..

I just got a few batches in from Aurora. Same caps. Slightly newer report, slight overflows. Fantastic packaging. Just took 2 weeks.
 
At least this way we know it's not just all being made in a bathtub. Downside I suppose is if those one or two manufacturing plants for some reason shut down the pipeline.
 
Forgot they also post within several minutes of each other on certain days for sales. Almost like it's a guy on his day off going through his accounts. 😂🤣.
 
Airborne Daddy said:
Anyone else notice at least 6 vendors...(make it 7, I just seen Walker Chemical has them) all have lavender caps on the R30? Like for 9 months everyone had red capped t30... explain to me again how everything doesn't come from the same 2 manufacturing plants? WAIT 8 now with SPB....
One thing that I have considered .. these aren't all different businesses the way we think of them in the US .. but are in fact just different sales people working for the same company.
 
MsGizmo said:
One thing that I have considered .. these aren't all different businesses the way we think of them in the US .. but are in fact just different sales people working for the same company.
Actually - right here in the Good Ole USA - my childhood friend's father made a fortune in Los Angeles back in the 70s when there were Yellow Pages by "opening" half a dozen locksmith companies, taking out half a dozen listings in the Yellow Pages, and putting half a dozen phone lines in a single back room of their house.

Don't like the quote to come unlock your car in the middle of the night? Call the next number in the phone book. Aunt Betty was listening to what Uncle Paul or Niece Susie just quoted high on purpose and they'd just underquote by a few $$.

They have been millionaires since the 90s.
 
Zydeceltico said:
Actually - right here in the Good Ole USA - my childhood friend's father made a fortune in Los Angeles back in the 70s when there were Yellow Pages by "opening" half a dozen locksmith companies, taking out half a dozen listings in the Yellow Pages, and putting half a dozen phone lines in a single back room of their house.

Don't like the quote to come unlock your car in the middle of the night? Call the next number in the phone book. Aunt Betty was listening to what Uncle Paul or Niece Susie just quoted high on purpose and they'd just underquote by a few $$.

They have been millionaires since the 90s.
That's brilliant.
 
MsGizmo said:
One thing that I have considered .. these aren't all different businesses the way we think of them in the US .. but are in fact just different sales people working for the same company.
I've wondered the same thing.

Would be interesting to investigate how widespread peptide use in China is domestically. Perhaps they were originally for sale that way and a few clever folks there started buying and reselling them from whatever shop was selling to locals. Over time that's evolved to more people doing it, working directly with manufacturers, and then manufacturer consolidation started happening.
 
MsGizmo said:
One thing that I have considered .. these aren't all different businesses the way we think of them in the US .. but are in fact just different sales people working for the same company.
This is especially the case when they come in with the exact same over-fill %.

It means that they're not even doing the separate lyo/capping. You might be able to find the cheapest of them, but realistically they have no bargaining power so their incentive is to get the lowest cost (oldest problematic cast-offs) to sell and have the highest margin. Or maybe they're just capping the same so that people won't test separately. Not the sellers I'm looking for.
 
tubby said:
I've wondered the same thing.

Would be interesting to investigate how widespread peptide use in China is domestically. Perhaps they were originally for sale that way and a few clever folks there started buying and reselling them from whatever shop was selling to locals. Over time that's evolved to more people doing it, working directly with manufacturers, and then manufacturer consolidation started happening.
There is some use, but it is VERY niche (it is even in US/EU) and even smaller, because the number of people who can afford it really small and concentrated in a few big cities. Chinese people tend to trust their medical system and drugs (even toothpaste) much less than those in western countries... and that's because they've seen the scandals first hand and know the business culture.
 
joseblo said:
There is some use, but it is VERY niche (it is even in US/EU) and even smaller, because the number of people who can afford it really small and concentrated in a few big cities. Chinese people tend to trust their medical system and drugs (even toothpaste) much less than those in western countries... and that's because they've seen the scandals first hand and know the business culture.
Melamine in baby formula was a breaking point for the CCP. The plastic, heavy metals, and melamine in animal food and treats has been known for a long time in China. But the children's formula broke them.

We risk China playing fast and loose with the peptides we buy every time. There is no guarantee in the drug game.

2008 Melamine scandal
 
BellyD said:
💯. At this point I just look at the MOQ and see who has the newest report..

I just got a few batches in from Aurora. Same caps. Slightly newer report, slight overflows. Fantastic packaging. Just took 2 weeks.
I couldn't find any reviews of Aurora. Only your one mention. Can you share any details as to your experience? Or even possibly write a review in the vendor review section? If you do, please DM me or comment here so I will know to look. TIA!
 
Airborne Daddy said:
Anyone else notice at least 6 vendors...(make it 7, I just seen Walker Chemical has them) all have lavender caps on the R30? Like for 9 months everyone had red capped t30... explain to me again how everything doesn't come from the same 2 manufacturing plants? WAIT 8 now with SPB....
I like it when they are the same. I have orange T30s from 3 different vendors. Vendor's COAs plus 3rd party testing makes them a pretty safe bet. After that, it's all about price and service.
 
Riddi said:
I couldn't find any reviews of Aurora. Only your one mention. Can you share any details as to your experience? Or even possibly write a review in the vendor review section? If you do, please DM me or comment here so I will know to look. TIA!
Sure! Package came packed in a undisclosed box. Extremely well wrapped.

He messaged me a picture of the product prior to sending.

It took about 15 days from overseas (typical). Since it was also Holiday season.

My major need from them was the overfill since I give my alligator 8mg of Reta. I need 32-36mg for a month per vial.

I ordered 2kits for Moq. Honestly, I think there's only ,like 2/3 factories from undisclosed locations, this product comes out of anyway and everyone sells it for different prices.

a major decision will be warehouse location and price and maybe.. maybe your dedication to a supplier..

I TRUST all suppliers equally.. which means NOT AT ALL. So I test/research myself.

He was very prompt about the payment and supplied a label after 2/3 days.

Anyhow - I'll ad Aurora since this will que the searching prompt for future users.
 
tncc_rn said:
Melamine in baby formula was a breaking point for the CCP. The plastic, heavy metals, and melamine in animal food and treats has been known for a long time in China. But the children's formula broke them.

We risk China playing fast and loose with the peptides we buy every time. There is no guarantee in the drug game.

2008 Melamine scandal
I could be wrong, but if I thought the risk were anywhere close to that severe I wouldn't bother with buying gray market peptides. Hopefully nothing like that will ever happen with gray market Chinese peptides.

We are limited to how much risk we can control. Even sending a vial to test from a box of ten doesn't guarantee the other nine vials have the same contents, does it? If a vendor has recent tests and no negative feedback/reviews, not sure what else can be reasonably checked by the average rat tester.
 
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