Traveling without prescription

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This raises an important distinction that I think is often overlooked.

TSA and customs in the US are two completely different agencies and functions. Anyone traveling internationally with peptides should be planning well enough ahead that dealing with US customs upon returning from an international trip is a non-issue. When dealing solely with TSA traveling with syringes and vials doesn't cause problems 99% of the time as long as nobody is being stupid and trying to travel with enough to start their own medspa.

Obviously airport security and customs practices vary widely between countries, so there are definitely concerns with traveling outside of the US, but for domestic travel (and in my experience travel within North America) the majority of concerns are much ado about nothing.

I still think taking a break and not bothering with the hassles and frequent machinations and questions regarding traveling with peptides and related paraphernalia is a far better choice for most people; especially anyone who needs to ask the question or is the least bit nervous or concerned about it. As I mentioned before, unless you are diabetic or have another condition where traveling with injectable meds is a necessity, you are not going to die if you leave your stuff at home and skip a dose or a even a few.

Agreed. But I tend to travel for a month+ at a time. I also plan out what I'm going to need so I never have to bring anything back through US Customs. That's definitely an agency not to mess around with.

 

[indolent]

So the question remains:

all speculation and reasoning aside, has anybody EVER heard a specific, believable incident of TSA or Customs in any country actually confiscating/fining/jailing for bringing a reasonable quantity of reconstituted peptides vials and their accompanying syringes? Even one?

I'm going with no.

 

[Needsalife]

Went to Japan this year. I checked my meds in a thermos with a cold pack. They’re good for 48 hours in there. Then while traveling it has a usb powered cooler to keep them cold. No issues. This worked well on the Shinkansen or at hotels that didn’t have a refrigerator in room.

Most recent trip I just made a vial with exact dosing and kept them at room temp. Also no issues mush less hassle

Did you have a prescription with you, just in case? I’m going to Japan for 3 weeks and really want to take my Tirz.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Agreed. But I tend to travel for a month+ at a time. I also plan out what I'm going to need so I never have to bring anything back through US Customs. That's definitely an agency not to mess around with.

Traveling for that long I can definitely see how folks might want to figure out how to keep some kind of routine. It's the one or two week trips that are a head-scratcher for me.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

So the question remains:

all speculation and reasoning aside, has anybody EVER heard a specific, believable incident of TSA or Customs in any country actually confiscating/fining/jailing for bringing a reasonable quantity of reconstituted peptides vials and their accompanying syringes? Even one?

I'm going with no.

You're conclusion is likely correct.

In all of my air travel, and the countless amount of time I've spent in TSA lines, I've never seen anyone specifically hassled for having syringes and vials. Guy I used to work with a few years ago was type 1 and always traveled with insulin and such and never once was even asked about it.

Combine that with the length of time I've been involved with self-injecting meds and all the various social media and platforms I've been part of I can't recall anyone ever reporting anything more than just being asked what it was.

 

[Chelsea_Dagger]

Which "they" are you referring? It heavily depends on the country.

TSA doesn't care at all. Japan is very strict about syringes. When I went to Japan I kept everything in a pen and didn't have an issue.

I’m referring to customs not TSA. In the scenario he’s talking about it’s really not worth risking going to secondary, all countries have different laws about what you can and can’t bring and different severity in penalties but a lot of countries are much more strict even than the us and they don’t play around with their laws. It’s just not worth the risk.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

Did you have a prescription with you, just in case? I’m going to Japan for 3 weeks and really want to take my Tirz.

No wtf would I have a prescription with me

No one gives a shit about your meds

 

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No wtf would I have a prescription with me

No one gives a shit about your meds

Japan famously cares about medications. They have a very involved process for declaring them.

 

[spyke65]

Japan famously cares about medications. They have a very involved process for declaring them.

Japan is the strictest! Singapore, China, India, Indonesia, and the Philippines in Asia plus UAE in the Middle East also tend to have strict entry regulations and require approvals to bring in medications.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

You're conclusion is likely correct.

In all of my air travel, and the countless amount of time I've spent in TSA lines, I've never seen anyone specifically hassled for having syringes and vials. Guy I used to work with a few years ago was type 1 and always traveled with insulin and such and never once was even asked about it.

Combine that with the length of time I've been involved with self-injecting meds and all the various social media and platforms I've been part of I can't recall anyone ever reporting anything more than just being asked what it was.

TSA would really prefer you do a good job hiding your drugs because they don’t want to deal with that. They want your bombs.

Customs, on the other hand… those guys want your drugs and they want em bad.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

Japan famously cares about medications. They have a very involved process for declaring them.

So you know…. Don’t declare shit.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

TSA would really prefer you do a good job hiding your drugs because they don’t want to deal with that. They want your bombs.

Customs, on the other hand… those guys want your drugs and they want em bad.

The CBSA in Canada has a slightly different priority list:

1. Collect duty and taxes.

2. Guns. They really don't like guns (but will still collect duty and taxes on them).

3. Consumer products. (That 80" TV that was half price in the states? Yeah, they'll be collecting duty and taxes on it, based on the value in CAD, not what you paid for it.)

4. Booze. (The duty and taxes are quite reasonable, but they'll turn you away if you've ever been pinched for drunk driving.)

5. Tobacco. (Must display photos of dead babies or diseased organs, plus duty and taxes.)

6. Drugs. (Really only concerned with the fun ones, and if they are better than what you can get in Canada it's double duty and taxes.)

7. Cash. (If you have over a certain amount, they'll be confiscating that until you can prove where it came from, and then charge duty and taxes on the amount over the limit.)

8. Duty and Taxes. (If you're delinquent on any duty and taxes, they will prohibit entry. And assess additional duty and taxes.)

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

The CBSA in Canada has a slightly different priority list:

1. Collect duty and taxes.

2. Guns. They really don't like guns (but will still collect duty and taxes on them).

3. Consumer products. (That 80" TV that was half price in the states? Yeah, they'll be collecting duty and taxes on it, based on the value in CAD, not what you paid for it.)

4. Booze. (The duty and taxes are quite reasonable, but they'll turn you away if you've ever been pinched for drunk driving.)

5. Tobacco. (Must display photos of dead babies or diseased organs, plus duty and taxes.)

6. Drugs. (Really only concerned with the fun ones, and if they are better than what you can get in Canada it's double duty and taxes.)

7. Cash. (If you have over a certain amount, they'll be confiscating that until you can prove where it came from, and then charge duty and taxes on the amount over the limit.)

8. Duty and Taxes. (If you're delinquent on any duty and taxes, they will prohibit entry. And assess additional duty and taxes.)

Oof yeah that #4 got me turned around once, and means I get to visit the back room every time I enter Canada for a paperwork review (had to do a lot of work to be allowed in) and fresh background check. That place is not staffed by the friendly Canadians either, they’re some scary folks. Definitely don’t mess w Canada at the border, they’re not playing.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Oof yeah that #4 got me turned around once, and means I get to visit the back room every time I enter Canada for a paperwork review (had to do a lot of work to be allowed in) and fresh background check. That place is not staffed by the friendly Canadians either, they’re some scary folks. Definitely don’t mess w Canada at the border, they’re not playing.

No joke. A good friend who is American but married to a Canadian and lives in Quebec commutes back and forth to the states weekly got pinched for DUI back in 1976 still gets hassled every so often even though he's got a waiver from the Canadian govt and the charges in the US were expunged 20 years ago. Ironically, Canadians - even those who even have multiple arrests - can't be refused entry.

 

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So you know…. Don’t declare shit.

Being aware of the consequences of that decision is important. Some people may choose to take that risk and other may not. But pretending like it's not a risk is just stupid.

 

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Ironically, Canadians - even those who even have multiple arrests - can't be refused entry.

This isn't actually surprising. Most countries have an extremely high bar for refusing entry for a citizen.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

This isn't actually surprising. Most countries have an extremely high bar for refusing entry for a citizen.

If you’ve done something really bad you’ll probably be taken into custody rather than turned around.