Total noob- Where to start?

[wanna-lose-gut]

I've searched and tried to do plenty of research on here to no avail. As a person who's never taken a peptide or anything where do we go to learn? I don't want to go wasting 100's of dollars to chicken out lol.. are there any specific helpful threads that have helped you?

 

[chunkyTN]

I've searched and tried to do plenty of research on here to no avail. As a person who's never taken a peptide or anything where do we go to learn? I don't want to go wasting 100's of dollars to chicken out lol.. are there any specific helpful threads that have helped you?

If you gave us a little info about what you're trying to do you would probably get some good replies. Losing weight? Bulking up? Health reasons?

Search newbie or noob and you'll probably find people who've asked the questions.

 

[DjJoshua]

Yes more info. or just keep reading with in the forum.

 

[lessthanhalf]

In a lot of ways the easiest way to build up some knowledge is just to scroll through the posts and read lots of them, you will find lots of different experiences and along the way hopefully find the answers you are looking for. This site tries to avoid recommended sellers or guidelines for beginners as reading lots of stuff gives you a much better overall view of the issues so that when it comes time to buy peptides or start using them you are less likely to get ripped off or end up hurting yourself by not knowing how to mix and dose peptides safely.

 

[randompersonrandom]

I don't fully understand why Stairway to Grey's website doesn't seem to get recommended around here as a starting point. Isn't that half the point of STG? "So you know next to nothing about grey, here's the basics?" I know there are people who are displeased with the people who run the sites, but the information looked solid last time I looked at it.

 

[Timfok]

Spend hours on youtube learning about peptides. Ask questions to chat gpt or better yet, perplexity if you want a good answer regarding studies, side effects and efficacy. Then come back here when you know what you want.

 

[brah389]

Don't worry, you're not the only one. For me, I'm focused on losing weight. I suffered a compound fracture to my Rt Leg just above the ankle 8 month ago and put in almost 50 lbs. I'm also a big guy at 6'7" and lifted weights so I know I want to try retatrutide as it spares muscle. I'm just watching and learning. Starting a crypto wallet and just listening to people's experiences and vendors. This isnt something I want to rush in but I feel the same pain you do!

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

I don't fully understand why Stairway to Grey's website doesn't seem to get recommended around here as a starting point. Isn't that half the point of STG? "So you know next to nothing about grey, here's the basics?" I know there are people who are displeased with the people who run the sites, but the information looked solid last time I looked at it.

Totally agree, ive read everythingnon that site more than once, its an amazing entry point for folks that want to.learn about the grey market.

Youre on point, as usual!

 

[Ruckus4519]

Don't know how much my 2 cents are worth, since I'm also a noob who's only starting to learn too. This is off the top of my head and definitely not comprehensive.

First and foremost, don't rely on any one person/source/thing . There's money to be made in this space. People do some crazy shit when money's involved. Looking for someone to hold your hand sounds like one surefire way to get led off a cliff.

Some things you should reflect on:

What you want, why you want it, and how'd you end up here.

How much risk are you willing to take? Only spend what you can afford to lose. Set a budget or something.

A basic checklist of things to figure out:

What medications are available

The basic mechanics of how they work and what to expect

Payment

Testing your product

Two sections I recommend:

Featured Posts - There's some good advice here to keep in mind while figuring things out.

Supplies and Accessories - If you decide to continue, this is as basic and universal as it gets.

Mind the jargon (lots of unfamiliar terms), and mind the hammer (peptides aren't a panacea).

 

[wanna-lose-gut]

Totally agree, ive read everythingnon that site more than once, its an amazing entry point for folks that want to.learn about the grey market.

Youre on point, as usual!

I've stalked plenty of your post haha-- I only recognize because of your avatar. So thank you for your contributions.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

STG is a great resource, I agree.

Here? Browse through the topics. Search on keywords from topics and threads that interest you, catch your attention, etc.

Please do NOT rely on ChatGPT. If you want some very general information it can be a source but I never rely on it as a primary source nor the only source. I will only ask it yes/no questions and then continue reading beyond its reply.

Best advice: take your time.

 

[randompersonrandom]

Please do NOT rely on ChatGPT. If you want some very general information it can be a source but I never rely on it as a primary source nor the only source. I will only ask it yes/no questions and then continue reading beyond its reply.

You know, I'm glad you brought that up; I think there IS a right way to use ChatGPT heavily in learning about a thing, because I do it all the time and the instances of me embarrassing myself because I believed slop are fairly low. I ask the lying machine the question, get that general overview, and quote anything that sounded confident and say "Show me where humans said that" and go look at the sources to see if that's actually what they said.

That's how I found THIS site, incidentally. And it's better than googling because it doesn't rely on me googling the correct terms from the start and then being presented with twelve thousand pages that aren't what I want.

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

I've stalked plenty of your post haha-- I only recognize because of your avatar. So thank you for your contributions.

 

[80s.diver]

Solely based on the OP's username, my guess is weight loss. So that being said, there are really 3 options, sema, tirz and reta. Most people here favor reta, but tirz is easier to get as you can find them a telehealth places. They will cost you more, but you can get a starter set from them and get some medical supervision.

Once you feel comfortable with that, you can look into the grey market. Only suggesting this route as you are unsure of everything.

Most of us have taken this route for weight loss. Ok, I am assuming things here, sorry if I got that wrong.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

You know, I'm glad you brought that up; I think there IS a right way to use ChatGPT heavily in learning about a thing, because I do it all the time and the instances of me embarrassing myself because I believed slop are fairly low. I ask the lying machine the question, get that general overview, and quote anything that sounded confident and say "Show me where humans said that" and go look at the sources to see if that's actually what they said.

That's how I found THIS site, incidentally. And it's better than googling because it doesn't rely on me googling the correct terms from the start and then being presented with twelve thousand pages that aren't what I want.

This is a great idea. My prompts have been more general by asking it to show me data to disprove itself. I like your approach. Better prompt.

 

[indolent]

GLP1forum is excellent for its very grownup discussion board, so you should always come back here to learn more.

But the "guides" on STG (stairway to grey), and the "How-To for the New" on quallіgator, and "Start Here" entries in the Newbie Launchpad on peppys are good starting points. They'll differ a little; that's okay and you'll learn to consider your own risk tolerance.

 

[MsGizmo]

I've searched and tried to do plenty of research on here to no avail. As a person who's never taken a peptide or anything where do we go to learn? I don't want to go wasting 100's of dollars to chicken out lol.. are there any specific helpful threads that have helped you?

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[wanna-lose-gut]

If you gave us a little info about what you're trying to do you would probably get some good replies. Losing weight? Bulking up? Health reasons?

Search newbie or noob and you'll probably find people who've asked the questions.

You're right, sorry--

Looking to lose weight but still keep muscle.. been looking at Reta.

GLP1forum is excellent for its very grownup discussion board, so you should always come back here to learn more.

But the "guides" on STG (stairway to grey), and the "How-To for the New" on quallіgator, and "Start Here" entries in the Newbie Launchpad on peppys are good starting points. They'll differ a little; that's okay and you'll learn to consider your own risk tolerance.

This was very helpful, THANK YOU

 

[chunkyTN]

You're right, sorry--

Looking to lose weight but still keep muscle.. been looking at Reta.

This was very helpful, THANK YOU

This is just my .02. Sema is the cheapest. Not a bad place to start and it gives you somewhere to advance to.

You can get a kit of 10 vials of 10mg sema for about $50. Starting dose is .25. That kit will last you a year if you do well on it. I still use it basically as a base and then a dose of tirz as a topper halfway thru the week. I'm saving reta for future burn out if I need it.

Opinion may vary tho.

 

[lessthanhalf]

This is just my .02. Sema is the cheapest. Not a bad place to start and it gives you somewhere to advance to.

You can get a kit of 10 vials of 10mg sema for about $50. Starting dose is .25. That kit will last you a year if you do well on it. I still use it basically as a base and then a dose of tirz as a topper halfway thru the week. I'm saving reta for future burn out if I need it.

Opinion may vary tho.

I might be a bit biased as I had a year of nausea and malaise from low dose semaglutide before I discovered cheaper Chinese peptides and then had very few side effects from Tirzepatide, but in general I really do not think semaglutide is a good starting point at this stage.

Semaglutide is the cheapest and that is it in it's favour. Given the price of better drugs I do not see it as a useful option, except as a low dose add on to full doses of tirz or reta if large weight losses are required and not achieved by full doses of reta or tirz. If you have significant heart disease or chronic kidney disease semaglutide has better evidence of being helpful in those cases as it has had more studies done as it has been around longer. 15% wt loss

Tirzepatide has less side effects and is more effective than semaglutide, so there really is no valid argument in favour of it over tirzepatide, this is based on solid science. Cost is less than $5 a week /15mg unless buying very small vials. 20-24% wt loss

Retatrutide is less well studied and not yet officially approved, maybe has a bit more side effects than Tirz but is more effective for weight loss. Cost per mg is a bit less than twice tirz at $6-8/week /12mg. 25-29% wt loss

The idea that you should start on one drug and move to others when it stops working is internet logic not science. Tolerance to GLP drugs either does not exist or is extremely rare. There is no way in advance to know if it will help you to lose more or less than the average amount of weight, it just depends on what side effects you get that might limit doses or you might be more or less sensitive to the drug than average , but switching between drugs is not going to change that, you have at least doubled your chances of getting an allergic reaction by using two drugs instead of one with no effect in the end on how much weight you lose or what side effects you get.

There is also no real evidence that any of the GLP drugs are better than the others for preventing muscle loss while losing weight. Bodybuilders prefer reta, but there are no scientific studies to say it is better. High protein intake ( 1.2-1.6g/kg/day ) and resistance training make a difference, which GLP you use probably does not.