Jack brown
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Anyone else come here via his "how to get cheap ozempic article"?soverign_physacist said:
There Are No More Excuses To Be Fat
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MsGizmo
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For most cases maybe. But there is still going to be obesity that isn't caused by fat. Edema (water retention) isn't helped by GLP1 drugs and there are also going to be people who simply can't tolerate the them.fatbegone said:
MsGizmo
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$$$$Sasquatch said:Wouldn't they just eventually modify us genetically? Solve alot of problems, like different sizes in clothing.
The cure for sickle cell anemia exists with this method and it costs about 3 million dollars.
Nmcoyote1
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But can we really? At this point most people experiance much less weight loss versus surgery on GLP-1’s. Even people that have weight loss surgery are usually overweight when they reach stasis.fatbegone said:
HereKittyKitty
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Bariatric surgery is major surgery with significant requirements unless you wanna go overseas or to Mexico, which have their own risks. GLP-1s come with much lower access costs.Nmcoyote1 said:
Sasquatch
GLP-1 Enthusiast
You only know what's in front of you. My best buddy had bariatric surgery a few months before I went on tirz. He's had a rocky road. He just had stones removed, attributed to protein powder. I heard some can grow stones, some don't. But I said nope. Glad I didn't go that route.
HereKittyKitty
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Gallbladder issues are common post-bariatric surgery. Bariatric surgery has 97%+ success rates of reversing T2 diabetes if performed within 10y of diagnosis.Sasquatch said:
I was HWP my entire life. A horrific night of violence 15y ago decimated my life and me. I needed several surgeries to reconstruct the damage. I didn't leave my house for several years. I doubled in size. No exaggeration.
In 2019, I was dx with type 2 diabetes. My doctor recommended the surgery to reverse it. So I had it. I also spent a year working with a Registered Dietitian to revamp my food plan. My A1c has been 5.4/5.5 since I woke up post-op. That was 5y ago. I still eat as though I have T2 I've been HWP ever since. I am at healthy BMI now; I just want to be at my post-op nadir.
Sorry to hear your friend has had a rough go of it. It's serious business and requires unbelievable lifestyle changes. However, anyone - no matter the size of their stomach - can gain 100# 1 M&M at a time.
There are a lot of options available to manage weight. I don't think the array of choices alleviates the need to refrain from judgment. Until you walk a mile in someone else's shoes.....
MsGizmo
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Nmcoyote1 said:
I had a vertical sleeve done more than a decade ago. It cost me around $20k if you factor in all the testing and prep work I went through before I was allowed to have the surgery. I weighed 284 pounds the day of the operation. I lost about 60 pounds over the next year before I plateaued. I was still obese. I managed to maintain that level for about 2 years before the weight started creeping back in.MeedzMoar said:
Mk ...
$20k surgery = 60 pounds lost. Didn't last. Ended up bigger than what I started at.
$1500 GLP1 = 55 pounds lost in less than 9 months and not at max dosage. $1000 was spent at the pharmacy before I discovered the grey market.
I don't know how much GLP1s will help me to lose in total but I have no illusions that GLP1s and surgery will eliminate obesity.
HereKittyKitty
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$20k sounds like a very reasonable cost for the surgery, especially given all the pre-op testing and labs plus the education and pre- & post-op visits. From initial consultation to 1yr post-op follow-up appointment is a lot.MsGizmo said:
Sounds like the GLP-1s are working really well for you!
I had success on one. Went to its grey which was useless. Switched it up to a newer one. I have lost more in 2 weeks than I lost in 4 months on the other grey "model". (Same supplier)
Kjm1960 2333
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I understand that not all fat people can use Glp’s. I feel very fortunate that I was able to start with a local NP that used a compounder, moved to telehealth and once I felt comfortable to gray. But when I see severely obese folks struggle to move it truly saddens me. My thoughts go to you don’t have to be like that, I wish I could help.
MsGizmo
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GLP1s are FAR less dangerous. The death rate of bariatric surgeries is about 1% within 1 year of the procedure. The death rate from GLP1s is so low that when someone dies and it is even remotely linked to them it makes national news. While I have no idea what role GLP1 drugs are currently playing within weight loss management clinics at this time ... but if I had the option of a shot instead of a surgery I absolutely would have tried it first. In fact if I had known that GLP1 drugs were even on the horizon I would have just waited. $20k would have purchased a whole lot of injections even at full price.mlke6 said:
HereKittyKitty
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Absolutely.mlke6 said:
RubbaDubba1
GLP-1 Enthusiast
This might make me the veteran of the group here, I don't know about the wiser. I was getting near 600lbs, when I had a VSG about 17 years ago and when it was becoming all the rage in the Bariatric world. Took 1.5 years to get my rear in gear and some tough love, but I managed to get down to just over 500lbs preop weight. The surgery got me down to 250lbs within 9 months, there I stayed for the next many moons. Managed to get my Gallbladder out, but felt pretty good overall in that time. Weight started creeping back on and was almost at 400, needed a knee replacement and dropped 90lbs in 5 months to get that done. Gained some weight back again!
Enter our hero GLP-1! Damn this stuff is Frosty, it's like they made it just for me. I went the compounded route for over a year and a 1/2 and eventually worked my weigh-2-gray. Now down below 200lbs at a good BMI and finally feel like I have the best of 2 worlds to help keep me here. It's the after party, where getting this big, getting old, takes it's toll on the body and that cost is in excess of $100k easily out of pocket.
Most of the population won't take an injection, I'm glad to see the pillz get here and hopefully that space will just get better as well in the next few years.
Enter our hero GLP-1! Damn this stuff is Frosty, it's like they made it just for me. I went the compounded route for over a year and a 1/2 and eventually worked my weigh-2-gray. Now down below 200lbs at a good BMI and finally feel like I have the best of 2 worlds to help keep me here. It's the after party, where getting this big, getting old, takes it's toll on the body and that cost is in excess of $100k easily out of pocket.
Most of the population won't take an injection, I'm glad to see the pillz get here and hopefully that space will just get better as well in the next few years.
nonyabizznez said:
I'm addicted to these shows and can't wait for some new episdoes too. Yes, it's a shame that these docs aren't using glp-1s as an adjunctive to surgery, both pre- and post-surgery. With Dr. Now I get it, he's like a billion years old, but Dr. Procter is from this century
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HereKittyKitty
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If these had been an option and also reversed a chronic condition, I'd have waited too. Surgery was no joke.MsGizmo said:
At this point, I am where I am and the product not only helps manage scale creep it also supports my damaged pancreas. Diabetic or not, over time a damaged pancreas just can't manage the same work.
I'm glad there are solutions and new ones on the horizon.
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