Yo! I need the UGL plugVolkswagen57 said:
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I did the annual plan $1100 for the year and only received 5 vials. 160mg/week. It's good to get your feet wet and talk briefly to a doc that knows what they are talking about. I stocked up on UGL at $30-45 a vial and follow my blood work for dosing.woundcarping said:
Loving this thread. Anyone in here on the younger side? I'm 30, have 4 kids and just got a vasectomy. I know I'm young right now but test was at 460 total and 10 free and I'm really tempted to start 100-120mg/week to help solve my energy issues and give myself a little boost in the gym. Lift + cardio 6 days a week and currently around 13-14% bf at 6'1 192lb. Tried enclo already and hated it. Numbers skyrocketed but felt worse than before. Been off enclo for a while now and still feel a lot of low t symptoms even with a good diet (as good as it gets with 4 young kids) and around 7 hours of sleep every night. I know I will get on eventually. I also work for a clinic so I get provider visits, labs and test for free. Question is, am I dumb to start this young?
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On reddit, the holy trinity is Reta, Test and HGH. Im just missing the test!!!!
Lowers blood pressure.Mr. Blonde said:
Great as pre workout to get a good pump (not down there).
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Daily 2.5mg or 5mg. I do 5mg. Sometimes Ill do a "weekend warrior" dose on Friday - 20mg, but thats not for longevityanhydrous said:
and then back to 5mg on Monday...
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I am 35, I was diagnosed with hypogonadism. I personally went through my primary care physician (family doctor). I can't speak on your situation, but when I was diagnosed my total test level labs were as low as 210ng/dl. I was depressed, unmotivated, never got good sleep quality, always felt tired. For me the changes have been worth it. Having already been formally diagnosed with hypogonadism I pretty much knew my levels were never going to improve without medical intervention. I am happy with my choice.soapysnake said:
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I’m 39, I was also hypo (under 264ng/dl) now and 5 years ago when I first got tested.
I had no fun harpooning myself the first go round, the provider was trash. Now I have a tele provider, they’ll answer questions but mainly they give legal access and are interested in treating symptoms (better money for them). The original pcp prescribed 50mg/week IM, laughable.
Before you make a decision especially at your age make sure you fully understand what you’re committing to. When I started my total test was 446 and free 64. 4 months in total currently 1302 and free 220. Feel amazing, energy like I’m 20 again, total body recomp happening and building muscle. 6’ 185. But I’m 47 and committing to this for the next 30-40 years (hopefully). FSH and LH shut down basically 0 natural production. Way less sensitivity during sex, constant bloodwork insuring all other levels are good. Started hcg hoping to increase sensitivity. The longer you’re on TRT the harder it would be to ever stop even if you wanted to. At 30 the only way I’d consider doing it would be keeping your natural production intact. Look at what the long term requires. If enclo increased your numbers so much why’d you feel worse. Numbers to high, dose not dialed in for optimal effect, estrogen levels out of wack? What makes you feel like testosterone alone would be different?soapysnake said:
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Why would one stop if diagnosed with hypogonadism? I get what your saying but if your natural production is abysmal, then it would be obvious you'll be on for life (my doctor explained this to me very well).Topshelf said:
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IMO yes, bad idea to start that young unless you're 110% certain that you have a primary or secondary low T issue. You may.soapysnake said:
However, what I wish someone had told me when I was in my mid 30s was find a competent men's health urologist or endo and try to see if you can determine what's causing the apparent low T. You don't want to go on a life long drug protocol if you can help it - my .02 cents.
People are too quick to pull the T trigger w/out doing proper due diligence first.
Personally, I'd be very wary about running supraphysiologic levels of T like you are doing. Not a good long term therapy from what I've learned over the years. Maybe - Maybe - the occasional blast.Topshelf said:
What's your hematocrit at those levels? And, wait till your prostate doubles in size. Etc.
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ScaryCalm Logic said:
The only consolation is that a Meso bro is more likely to ride in an ambulance than a police car.Volkswagen57 said:Scary
To me, the Meso lifestyle is just too expensive to do it even somewhat rationally, besides the fact I am like most people who sooner than later get sides from steroids. I am too poor to afford all the fancy lab tests, cardio imaging, Repatha injections, oral supplements, other ancillaries, etc.
And they are still walking around with above normal hematocrit (as with just TRT sometimes), though some use home blood withdrawal kits for that (since you can only donate so often without a Rx).
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I would rather ride in an ambulance than a police car too, cops suck haha. But I am also on meso for test acquisition reasons lolCalm Logic said:
Response was directed at his question and he is not diagnosed with hypogonadism. He is questioning a decision based on choice not medical necessity.Volkswagen57 said:
Hematocrit currently at 50.2 and agreed my total T was higher than I was expecting. Doing this under medical supervision and obviously everyone had a story. Diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis at 36, 10 years of battles. Extreme fatigue and the list could go on. Have full bloodwork done every 6 months due to MS medication through neurologist and every 3 months with my TRT.tendency said:
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