Tesa & Ipa!

[CraigLSU]

Has anyone researched Tesamorelin & Ipamorelin here? I couldn’t find any COA’s here?

 

[PurpleCatFur]

yes, tesa from several vendors. one kit of IPA goes a long way

 

[bbrewer]

Do not get mix, I've never seen one with ratios that make sense. Always too ipa heavy. Also difficult to test.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

There are a number of threads on here in regards to tesa if you use the search feature. Check the box for "search titles only" for tesa specific threads, or leave it unchecked to see comments across all threads

 

[hexagonal]

Yes, used both. They worked for me, but I found HGH to be a better price/performance option. Higher IGF-1, lower insulin sensitivity.

 

[Calm Logic]

AndyPanda, Zpped, and Exploitedworkerbee have also been favorable about HGH, so it's on my to-do list:

I feel like so many of the random peptides claim to do what you can accomplish with good old HGH.

Reta, hgh, bpc. The holy trinity.

I'll just bluntly say AOD and L-carn are both a waste of money. The effect you want only comes from increasing growth hormone. That can be done directly with hgh (illegal) or gh secretougues like tesamorelin/ipamorelin. But these are not something to dabble in without a lot of research into getting your own bloodwork and reading it.

 

[CraigLSU]

Do not get mix, I've never seen one with ratios that make sense. Always too ipa heavy. Also difficult to test.

Ok that’s what I’ve heard! There’s 2 places I want to order from to get 10 vial kits but I’ve never done that so I’m nervous being new to the kit thing!

 

[CraigLSU]

Yes, used both. They worked for me, but I found HGH to be a better price/performance option. Higher IGF-1, lower insulin sensitivity.

Doesn’t HGH stop you’re own production?

 

[hexagonal]

Doesn’t HGH stop you’re own production?

There's no reason to care about having natural production when you are supplying it exogenously. You'll get more serum IGF1 dollar per dollar out of HGH than you will the secreteagogues.

HGH natural production also returns to normal within a matter of days after you stop.

 

[Calm Logic]

The same principles applies with TRT, which is why I give more credence to HGH. If the status quo was that natural production went down permanently, the TRT clinics and telehealth portals would go out of business.

 

[AndyPanda]

Yeah, don’t waste your money and energy on snake oil. Just get some HGH. There are probably more than a dozen peptides that try to do what we know HGH does.

 

[Protostack]

everyone giving advice about just getting HGH is spot on, my reading is that the derivatives and analogues just don’t have the price to performance ratio of HGH. Tesamorelin is designed specifically for visceral fat and has clinical evidence backing it so getting Tesa and HGH makes sense to me.

 

[CraigLSU]

The same principles applies with TRT, which is why I give more credence to HGH. If the status quo was that natural production went down permanently, the TRT clinics and telehealth portals would go out of business.

Do you get it in bulk?

 

[CraigLSU]

everyone giving advice about just getting HGH is spot on, my reading is that the derivatives and analogues just don’t have the price to performance ratio of HGH. Tesamorelin is designed specifically for visceral fat and has clinical evidence backing it so getting Tesa and HGH makes sense to me.

What are the dosage protocol for HGH? I’m 180!

 

[hexagonal]

What are the dosage protocol for HGH? I’m 180!

Individual response to HGH varies pretty wildly, and estrogen levels can impact it (more estrogen, more response, to a certain point)

4IU is enough to put me right above 500 IGF-1, which is more than you would need for fat loss/recomp type purposes, but 3-4 IU are pretty common amounts for people to settle on. Start a little low, titrate up after a couple of weeks. People tend to get swelling, edema, carpal tunnel, etc., if they go too high too fast.

I'm happy I respond well to HGH, since I respond like jack shit to testosterone itself. All the way up to 250mg/w now and still in reference range, lol.

One thing to keep in mind with both tesa/ip and regular HGH is that you will put on some additional water weight when you start, and potentially again as you go up in dosage, so the scale might move up instead of down as your body gets used to it.

 

[AndyPanda]

What are the dosage protocol for HGH? I’m 180!

2iu to 4iu generally speaking. Your goals and biology will factor in to that decision. MESORX is a good place to get information on HGH.

 

[happybunny63]

So can you take any other peptides when cycling off the Ipa and Tesa? I am worried that I am going to feel like crap!

 

[Blitziod]

There's no reason to care about having natural production when you are supplying it exogenously. You'll get more serum IGF1 dollar per dollar out of HGH than you will the secreteagogues.

HGH natural production also returns to normal within a matter of days after you stop.

How much is hgh costing and how much do you need to do ?

 

[Delta]

CraigLSU, Not thread related, but just wanted to give you a Geaux Tigers!

 

[hexagonal]

How much is hgh costing and how much do you need to do ?

Most of the CN vendors here also offer HGH.

Amount you need to do is highly variable. Most people will see replacement IGF-1 levels at 2-3IU and performance similar to secretagogues at 3-4IU.

4IU puts me significantly higher than the secretagogues did - about 150 more.