I feel you. Half my brain is saying: Well, you just finished a 20 day cycle of both Epitalon and Semax and you're taking 8 mg of a triple agonist every week, so why would you expect to feel it? The other half of my brain says: Well, it would be nice if I did!randompersonrandom said:
SS-31 + MOTs-C vs NAD+
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randompersonrandom
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so much this. "If you do feel something, how on earth are you going to know whether it's one of the nine things you're injecting into your belly fat, or the weight you're losing? Are you just gonna keep injecting all nine things into your belly fat forever if you feel better?" And my inner lab rat just squeaks "SHUT UP THIS IS ALL MAGIC IMA LIVE FOREVER!"Chili777 said:
Peptidesearch
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I'm really wondering what's causing so many reported MOTSc reactions, if it's the MOTSc itself or specialized excipients used in the puck?
Twowheelr2
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Finished my last dose of SS-31 today. Came up 1 short, but did not want to reconstitute another vial for 1 dose. I can say, the subject’s energy levels were consistently up for the 6 weeks on SS-31, especially when 100mg of NAD+ were added (twice weekly). The SS-31 was the first time administering daily sh0ts. It was almost sad saying ta ta to that peptide..at least for now.Chili777 said:
Raptor14
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I'm currently on week 2 of SS-31. No NAD.
I started at 2 mg. This week I increased the dose to 4 mg which I will stay at 4mg. I plan to continue for another three weeks before introducing MOTS-c.
SS-31 has provided noticeably deeper/better sleep. I dose around 8pm and go to bed around 10:30pm. I am pleased with the results so far.
I started at 2 mg. This week I increased the dose to 4 mg which I will stay at 4mg. I plan to continue for another three weeks before introducing MOTS-c.
SS-31 has provided noticeably deeper/better sleep. I dose around 8pm and go to bed around 10:30pm. I am pleased with the results so far.
Twowheelr2
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Today, I started the MOTSc portion of the 14 week mitochondria protocol. 1st time administering a dose of MOTSc. It was a 5mg dose. Maybe RS felt a slight sting going in— slowly with a 1/2 pin in the abdomen. I used a trusted and tested grey 40mg vial reconstituted with 1.5 mL BAC. PHEW.Peptidesearch said:
randompersonrandom
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I dunno, but I'm so over it. Itchy lump the feels dine-sized and lasts two weeks, which means I'm always walking around with five (for a 3x per week schedule) and my belly is no longer big enough to really spread them out, space wise.Peptidesearch said:
To me, that sounds like an ISR and not and allergic reaction like I had. How much bac did you use? For some peps and a lot of people, the amount of bac you add can make a big difference. The more bac you add, the less ISR issue because it's not as concentrated. (yes, that means more units to inject but worth it)randompersonrandom said:
I had 10mg vials and used 1ml to recon and had zero feels when I took it.Twowheelr2 said:
40mg is in your vial, that could make a difference for sure. I reconned 3 10mg vials into a 3ml cart and the 6 doses I took gave me no issues, except for my allergic reaction that made my face itch. Try using more bac.
randompersonrandom
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No, not an allergy; a very common ISR, similar to NAD+ (Even buffered.) I did 3 ml bac to 32mg. I don't want to double that, because I'm too grossed out by huge volume doses; at the concentration I have, it's like 47 units. I'd rather have the lump, but I dislike the choice and am glad the protocol's almost over it, even though I undeniably feel better.texmexpep said:
ronin365
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I am currently on Reta which I understand helps with mitochondrial health by promoting mitophagy. If instead of repairing the mitochondria with SS-31, you clean out the damaged mitochondria with Reta and let the process ride for a few months, which is plenty of time for turnover and replacement to occur. I would think after a few months MOTS-c would be more effective for someone who had compromised mitochondria. Does my logic hold up here, or am I missing something?
Peptidesearch
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I've heard the same from others on increasing BAC, maybe filtering could help as well?texmexpep said:
Peptidesearch
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It's exhausting, I had this happen with Testosterone Subq but it's an oil base and known to cause this. I switched to IM and zero issues ever since. I'm going to filter my Mots-C to see if it helps prevent getting these reactions.randompersonrandom said:
randompersonrandom
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Peptidesearch said:
Just so you don't get your hopes up too much; there's nothing I don't filter. I use pens, so I gotta transfer it from vial A to cartridge B anyway, figure it's dumb not to take the four seconds to unscrew the needle, and slap on a filter and a new needle.
Adding more BAC probably WOULD help, it does with KLOW, though the total volume of the dose that gets the right mg amount and doesn't cause an ISR isn't very high, only about 35 units for the one I have. For the MOTS-C, if you don't mind shooting up almost a ml of fluid (for 5mg) 3x per week, then it's likely to be the thing that helps. I just can't bear that; I get the mental image of drinking a cup of cocoa into a pocket of my belly fat and feel ill.
Peptidesearch
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Good to know, thanks for sharing.randompersonrandom said:
SakeSan
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Are you using any wearable to track sleep quality? Ss31 wired my research subject and for that reason it was always taken in the am.Raptor14 said:
randompersonrandom
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oh no, you had it right--I was agreeing with you that no, mine isn't an allergy, just an ISR and a common one with MOTS-C. I agree that yours was DEFINITELY an allergy and not worth daring it to get worse.texmexpep said:I just realized I made a typo in this comment. I did NOT have an ISR, I only had an allergic reaction. If I only had an ISR, I'd deal with that and poke on.
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