Separate stack or GLOW?

[Researcher6076]

Thank you so much! Sounds like the back of the operative arm might be ideal...nearish the injury.

Is there any benefit from either of these in terms of more significant/quicker muscle growth? Being a girl, I don't know that the hgh/test/whatever the guys take for that would be the right move for me to "rebulk" some of that lost muscle mass.

I actually have been taking 50mg zinc almost daily for a few years--though I am curious if it might be TOO much in combination? I started taking it with a multi digestive enzyme cap that contains phytase because the combo SUPPOSEDLY helps Botox metabolize slower so it lasts maybe a month or two longer. And given that the GLPs tend to speed the overall metabolism up, I am hoping that kind of offsets it a bit.

GHK-CU and BPC-157 won't help for muscle growth. Healing: yes; Muscles: no. If you want muscle growth, AKA Body Recomp, you need something on the GH-Axis. I recommend the GH secretagogues. Specifically, either

Ipamorelin + CGC-1295 NODAC, or

Tesamorelin, or even

Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin

These are not boy-specific. But it’s pretty important to do some blood work for IGF-1 to be sure you keep your elevated IGF-1 <= 2x your age adjusted normal.

My conservative stack is Tesamorelin Tues / Thurs / Sat AM (fasting) and Ipamorelin + CGC-1295 NODAC Sun – Thur PM (fasted).

Data below shows how 12 weeks of this rases IGF-1.

Subject Typical Baseline IGF‑1 Projected IGF‑1 Relative Change Age Mapping Male, 71 y ≈ 80 ng/mL ≈ 120–180 ng/mL +50% to +125% Mid 50s – Early 40s Female, 58 y ≈ 120–140 ng/mL ≈ 160–220 ng/mL +30% to +60% Mid 40s –

Mid 30s

Higher IGF-1 gives you lean mass growth, better healing, better sleep, lots of goodies.

My research notes, more information, and some protocols attached.

 

[RadicalCrimson]

My research notes, more information, and some protocols attached.

Thanks a lot for the detailed notes.

I started tesa and ipa, and recently added CJC no DAC.

I am planning to eventually switch to your protocol, but for now I'm loading 2mg tesa in the morning with CJC and ipa at night, if the side effects are tolerable.

I want to see where my Z-score is after 4 weeks before deciding the maintenance dose.

I started at +0.7.

 

[domin8brix]

GHK-CU and BPC-157 won't help for muscle growth. Healing: yes; Muscles: no. If you want muscle growth, AKA Body Recomp, you need something on the GH-Axis. I recommend the GH secretagogues. Specifically, either

Ipamorelin + CGC-1295 NODAC, or

Tesamorelin, or even

Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin

These are not boy-specific. But it’s pretty important to do some blood work for IGF-1 to be sure you keep your elevated IGF-1

 

[Nopenada]

I cycle between KLOW and GHK-cu / KPV. That way I can get the BPC and TB sometimes, but stay consistently on the stuff I never need to cycle off of.

 

[BlueDog55]

Thank you so much! Sounds like the back of the operative arm might be ideal...nearish the injury.

Is there any benefit from either of these in terms of more significant/quicker muscle growth? Being a girl, I don't know that the hgh/test/whatever the guys take for that would be the right move for me to "rebulk" some of that lost muscle mass.

I actually have been taking 50mg zinc almost daily for a few years--though I am curious if it might be TOO much in combination? I started taking it with a multi digestive enzyme cap that contains phytase because the combo SUPPOSEDLY helps Botox metabolize slower so it lasts maybe a month or two longer. And given that the GLPs tend to speed the overall metabolism up, I am hoping that kind of offsets it a bit.

To address the "hgh/test/whatever the guys take for that would be the right move for me to "rebulk" You can take the HGH and Test with test take a very low dose just research test for women. Question: I see you are 48 have you gone through the change yet? If you have, you need to get a good Doc to give you HRT, you can read a ton on that on the net. If you have not just use a very small dose of test.

 

[Dilbert4Life]

GHK-CU and BPC-157 won't help for muscle growth. Healing: yes; Muscles: no. If you want muscle growth, AKA Body Recomp, you need something on the GH-Axis. I recommend the GH secretagogues. Specifically, either

Ipamorelin + CGC-1295 NODAC, or

Tesamorelin, or even

Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin

These are not boy-specific. But it’s pretty important to do some blood work for IGF-1 to be sure you keep your elevated IGF-1

 

[amosmylove]

GHK-CU and BPC-157 won't help for muscle growth. Healing: yes; Muscles: no. If you want muscle growth, AKA Body Recomp, you need something on the GH-Axis. I recommend the GH secretagogues. Specifically, either

Ipamorelin + CGC-1295 NODAC, or

Tesamorelin, or even

Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin

These are not boy-specific. But it’s pretty important to do some blood work for IGF-1 to be sure you keep your elevated IGF-1

 

[domin8brix]

To address the "hgh/test/whatever the guys take for that would be the right move for me to "rebulk" You can take the HGH and Test with test take a very low dose just research test for women. Question: I see you are 48 have you gone through the change yet? If you have, you need to get a good Doc to give you HRT, you can read a ton on that on the net. If you have not just use a very small dose of test.

I am just starting to change, I keep hoping I’ll turn into a wehrwolf or something cool but unfortunately still just a cranky old broad.

I have (and hate!) the topical but I don’t “need” the systemic stuff yet. According to my gyn anyway but I honestly don’t know what the criteria is for need. I still have an IUD for like 5-6 more years at least. I have had a few hot flashes that I didn’t even know were hot flashes!

 

[BlueDog55]

I am just starting to change, I keep hoping I’ll turn into a wehrwolf or something cool but unfortunately still just a cranky old broad.

I have (and hate!) the topical but I don’t “need” the systemic stuff yet. According to my gyn anyway but I honestly don’t know what the criteria is for need. I still have an IUD for like 5-6 more years at least. I have had a few hot flashes that I didn’t even know were hot flashes!

Make them give you HRT as soon as you need it. I know several ladies that have taken small doses of test before and during the change. You should consult with a HRT doctor your normal Doc could be behind the times. It's never a bad idea to get a 2nd opinion. Good Luck!

 

[domin8brix]

Make them give you HRT as soon as you need it. I know several ladies that have taken small doses of test before and during the change. You should consult with a HRT doctor your normal Doc could be behind the times. It's never a bad idea to get a 2nd opinion. Good Luck!

Thank you! How does one know they need it?

 

[BlueDog55]

Thank you! How does one know they need it?

Now that is a question for a HRT clinic doc. There's tons of them now days on line and in most towns.

 

[ThatNextGril]

Thank you! How does one know they need it?

Not a doctor, but from my months and months of research prior to asking for HRT from my gyno about 3 years ago, if you're a woman of a certain age (going thru or post menopause) you need it. Menopause is literally the stripping back of those hormones, so essentially everyone could really benefit from adding them back. Even women who say they have no symptoms or issues could benefit from it from a biological and cellular standpoint (improves all sorts of markers, including better bone health).

 

[domin8brix]

Not a doctor, but from my months and months of research prior to asking for HRT from my gyno about 3 years ago, if you're a woman of a certain age (going thru or post menopause) you need it. Menopause is literally the stripping back of those hormones, so essentially everyone could really benefit from adding them back. Even women who say they have no symptoms or issues could benefit from it from a biological and cellular standpoint (improves all sorts of markers, including better bone health).

Since my IUD is new, and likely to last through my mid50s, I am wondering if my gyn thinks I am not a candidate for it because of that thing...and maybe once that's out I will need it? Hmmm. Thanks!

 

[ThatNextGril]

Since my IUD is new, and likely to last through my mid50s, I am wondering if my gyn thinks I am not a candidate for it because of that thing...and maybe once that's out I will need it? Hmmm. Thanks!

Possibly! It would be the same for a woman being on birth control in general during the fertile years and once hitting the menopause years needing to switch to HRT with a specific estrogen and progesterone dose.