瑞他曲肽引起的疲劳/嗜睡

[Lifeworthliving]

I don’t have the fatigue in ozempic I did.

What I have is insomnia

If I know I’m in for a rough night of sleep, I’ll take half of this sleep-specific gummy about an hour to an hour and a half before bed. I chew it up and let it sit under my tongue for as long as I can. I only use it when I’ve got a full 8 hours to sleep. I’m not a recreational cannabis user in the usual sense (don't like feeling like my brain is powered down while awake, probably why I have trouble sleeping), but for me, this works better than anything else I’ve tried.https://wyldcanna.com/us/products/boysenberry/

 

[HoopFan]

If I know I’m in for a rough night of sleep, I’ll take half of this sleep-specific gummy about an hour to an hour and a half before bed. I chew it up and let it sit under my tongue for as long as I can. I only use it when I’ve got a full 8 hours to sleep. I’m not a recreational cannabis user in the usual sense (don't like feeling like my brain is powered down while awake, probably why I have trouble sleeping), but for me, this works better than anything else I’ve tried.https://wyldcanna.com/us/products/boysenberry/

Wyld is an excellent brand.

The brain shutting down thing can be so bad and difficult to stop. My spouse suffers from over-thinking day and literally night. The sleep is rare and I cannot see how anyone can function this way.

 

[Riddi]

If I know I’m in for a rough night of sleep, I’ll take half of this sleep-specific gummy about an hour to an hour and a half before bed. I chew it up and let it sit under my tongue for as long as I can. I only use it when I’ve got a full 8 hours to sleep. I’m not a recreational cannabis user in the usual sense (don't like feeling like my brain is powered down while awake, probably why I have trouble sleeping), but for me, this works better than anything else I’ve tried.https://wyldcanna.com/us/products/boysenberry/

My wife is like that, where if she has stuff on mind she can't sleep. Maybe i should get her some. I looked at the link and it makes sense to me that it is from Indica strain. If it was from sativa, you'd prolly start hearing things.. i haven't had either for a long time since i quit smoking cigs and don't wanna relapse, but it's the reason i think i've always liked pure sativa better.. it always pushes me towards activity/creativity while Indicas more towards couch lock.

 

[AndyPanda]

If you are looking for something less illicit, I have been seeing blends like this lately…

‘Relaxation PM’

Gaba 100mg

Melatonin 1mg

Arginine 100mg

Glutamine 25mg

HYB has it for $160 per kit.

 

[Fisherman2356]

The reason people feel sluggish on these drugs is because you aren’t eating

I always respect your opinion but have to disagree on this one. I do fasting every now and then, no food just water (2-3 days) and my energy is through the roof. It actually is so high (the energy) that I can't even sleep or feel sleepy at all, and that is usually the reason I have to end the fast early, usually 2-3 days max (ideally would like to 6-7 days twice per year). So, I'm pretty sure there is other things at play that makes us feel tired on these fat lowering drugs but not qualified to give the proper answer.

However, I wonder if anyone has tried HGH while on GLP1's?

I'm having great success with HGH for muscle building/maintaining and energy but actually I stopped Reta and Tirze (before my HGH regimen) because Reta and Tirze gave me excruciating/crippling back pain. I was able to reduce the back pain almost to zero with 3mg's of LDN (Low dose Naltrexone) daily, but I am still not 100% pain free to start Reta and/or Tirze again.

 

[AndyPanda]

I always respect your opinion but have to disagree on this one. I do fasting every now and then, no food just water (2-3 days) and my energy is through the roof. It actually is so high (the energy) that I can't even sleep or feel sleepy at all, and that is usually the reason I have to end the fast early, usually 2-3 days max (ideally would like to 6-7 days twice per year). So, I'm pretty sure there is other things at play that makes us feel tired on these fat lowering drugs but not qualified to give the proper answer.

However, I wonder if anyone has tried HGH while on GLP1's?

I'm having great success with HGH for muscle building/maintaining and energy but actually I stopped Reta and Tirze (before my HGH regimen) because Reta and Tirze gave me excruciating/crippling back pain. I was able to reduce the back pain almost to zero with 3mg's of LDN (Low dose Naltrexone) daily, but I am still not 100% pain free to start Reta and/or Tirze again.

I understand your perspective and it’s correct, but when you are talking about someone who is used to eating well over 2000 to 3000 calories per day, and now they are eating maybe 1200, it will definitely cause fatigue and effect mood.

As far as HGH, I take 3iu daily in addition to Tirz every 5 days. It doesn’t affect my energy levels that I can notice but it has helped with muscle growth. It can cause virilization in women though, so I encourage everyone to do thorough research on it before taking that leap.

 

[Fisherman2356]

and have noticed horrible fatigue/sleepiness.

I am not an expert by any stretch, but my opinion is that the fatigue comes as result of muscle wasting, however small that might be.

I would suggest you try HGH. I actually had to stop taking RETA and/or Tirze because had severe back paid on them, but I've been on HGH for about a month (started it after stopping GLP1's) and have gained most of my muscle back and have good energy level.

Maybe those that have done HGH while on GLP1's can chime in?

 

[Fisherman2356]

I understand your perspective and it’s correct, but when you are talking about someone who is used to eating well over 2000 to 3000 calories per day, and now they are eating maybe 1200, it will definitely cause fatigue and effect mood.

I hear you, in such cases you are correct. For me though which I usually don't consume more than 2000-2200 calories I think the loss of energy must have come from loss of muscle. While i had decent appetite suppression I didn't really cut the calories that much 1700-1800 at best, from 2000-2200. But I lost a lot of muscle and strength also. To be fair I did not exercise nearly enough, but my strength was less than 1/2 and my muscles were visibly smaller. As an example, pre Tirze and Reta I could do about 30 pushups (with max effort) and after being on Reta/Tirze for about 4 months I could barely do 7-8 push-ups. Thanks to about five weeks of HGH i am back to doing 25 and have gained about 90% of the muscle I lost.

 

[AndyPanda]

I am not an expert by any stretch, but my opinion is that the fatigue comes as result of muscle wasting, however small that might be.

I would suggest you try HGH. I actually had to stop taking RETA and/or Tirze because had severe back paid on them, but I've been on HGH for about a month (started it after stopping GLP1's) and have gained most of my muscle back and have good energy level.

Maybe those that have done HGH while on GLP1's can chime in?

I’m going to set off a shit storm with this one, but if I could start over again, I would have taken a low dose of Anavar to preserve muscle. I would help with fatigue as well.

 

[Fisherman2356]

As far as HGH, I take 3iu daily

I've been doing 2-2.5IU daily for 5 days, but it is giving me edema on my right ankle. do you have any suggestions for edema, other than lowering the dose and titrating up slowly? There is no pain involved, but just looks weird/swollen LOL

 

[Fisherman2356]

low dose of Anavar to preserve muscle

Do you mind elaborating a bit on Anavar, i.e. dose you recommend and any possible sides or anything else you might suggest together with it. I've never taken steroids and I'm kind of scared of side effects especially for a newbie in that area.

 

[AndyPanda]

I've been doing 2-2.5IU daily for 5 days, but it is giving me edema on my right ankle. do you have any suggestions for edema, other than lowering the dose and titrating up slowly? There is no pain involved, but just looks weird/swollen LOL

I would say lower the dose, especially if you are under 40. Another mitigation is more potassium and less salt, or switch to salt without iodine.

 

[Fisherman2356]

I would say lower the dose, especially if you are under 40. Another mitigation is more potassium and less salt, or switch to salt without iodine.

Thanks, Will try potassium and will lower salt intake (kinda makes sense). I'm actually over 50. Dang I was loving the effects at 2.5IU's and probably I might have to do 1IU for a while and see how it goes.

 

[AndyPanda]

Do you mind elaborating a bit on Anavar, i.e. dose you recommend and any possible sides or anything else you might suggest together with it. I've never taken steroids and I'm kind of scared of side effects especially for a newbie in that area.

Anavar is a very mild AAS. It gets a bad rap because people abuse it and others. It’s definitely not toxic like trenbolone. When I take it about 30 minutes before a workout I 100% can feel a difference in strength and endurance. I think a good starting dose is 10mg. Titrate in increments of 5 mg and don’t go above 50mg per day. Monitor your BP and listen to your body. For men, take 1.5 mg a week Arimidex if you are concerned about estrogenic effects. Its liver toxicity is not terrible and you can mitigate with Glutathione and supposedly milk thistle.

 

[iamiPAC]

I am not an expert by any stretch, but my opinion is that the fatigue comes as result of muscle wasting, however small that might be.

I would suggest you try HGH. I actually had to stop taking RETA and/or Tirze because had severe back paid on them, but I've been on HGH for about a month (started it after stopping GLP1's) and have gained most of my muscle back and have good energy level.

Maybe those that have done HGH while on GLP1's can chime in?

Thanks for the comment. I actually started HGH 2IU’s M-F and will definitely give Retatrutide another attempt. Thanks!

 

[Riddi]

I’m going to set off a shit storm with this one, but if I could start over again, I would have taken a low dose of Anavar to preserve muscle. I would help with fatigue as well.

This is exactly the thought I was having in making my plan. I happen to have access to a small bottle of 10mg tabs acquired some time ago. Been looking around a bit to find more as the amount is very small and sadly the vendor i know has been out of stock for some time now.

Personally I have researched moderate doses (lower than typical gym bros) of AAS in the past and don't really care to go that route currently but low dose var is the one I would consider, so cudos for saying it!

Hopefully, I'll have some luck in my quest but that being said, it has made me ponder, that if I don't is there a 2nd option? Since I'm not interested in going the GH route, and in thinking about it, I've come to Primo as a possibility. (although I'd still prefer Var)

If anybody with more experience than me could chime in that would be appreciated. My thinking is that I'd like something that could be researched selectively on and off, without the whole getting shut down then doing the PCT rodeo. That's why my preference would be the var as an oral vs Primo as IM as it would allow more control as to how long it would remain systemic.

 

[Riddi]

Thanks for the comment. I actually started HGH 2IU’s M-F and will definitely give Retatrutide another attempt. Thanks!

Hey Bro

I'd love to hear and feedback on that experience. I've been fascinated with HGH for many years but never researched it personally. Closest has been IPA + CJC (mod-grf version)

For that the biggest thing noted was fabulous sleep.

 

[Riddi]

But to be fair, research was limited and not longer term.

 

[iamiPAC]

嘿兄弟，

我很想听听你的体验和反馈。我对生长激素很感兴趣，但一直没亲自研究过。之前最接近的体验是IPA+CJC（改良GRF版本）。

据说它最大的好处是睡眠质量极佳。

嗨，RIDDI，

我开始使用生长激素已经两周了，但目前还没有看到什么明显的效果。我现在没有举重，只是每周跑五次5公里，为我的第一个5公里比赛做准备。也许如果我举重的话，肌肉量会增长得更明显。我的体脂和体重都在下降，但我同时也在服用替拉唑肽和卡格瑞肽。

如果你也决定开始使用生长激素，我很想知道你的感受。请随时告诉我。我计划只做一个为期两个月的疗程就停止，我只注射MF，周末休息，但会注射Tesamorelin SS。希望这些信息对你有帮助，兄弟。祝好！

 

[Riddi]

嗨，RIDDI，

我开始使用生长激素已经两周了，但目前还没有看到什么明显的效果。我现在没有举重，只是每周跑五次5公里，为我的第一个5公里比赛做准备。也许如果我举重的话，肌肉量会增长得更明显。我的体脂和体重都在下降，但我同时也在服用替拉唑肽和卡格瑞肽。

如果你也决定开始使用生长激素，我很想知道你的感受。请随时告诉我。我计划只做一个为期两个月的疗程就停止，我只注射MF，周末休息，但会注射Tesamorelin SS。希望这些信息对你有帮助，兄弟。祝好！

谢谢，恭喜你参加活动！太棒了！所以，T&C 是 Reta 的替代方案吗？

就我而言，我现在从一个更知名、更可靠的渠道收到了我认为是真正的 Reta。上次是从一家不知名的 R Chem 供应商那里拿到的。目前我才刚结束第一周，所以还需要保留意见，但这让我怀疑我上次拿到的是不是 Triz 重新贴标的 Reta。

我这么想是因为上次的食欲抑制效果非常强，而这次目前为止减弱了。但公平地说，这次的研究剂量和上次一样小，是每周一、三、五服用 500 微克，所以可能还需要一周时间才能更清楚地了解情况。

另外，也可能是上次的研究是从中度到重度酮症状态开始的，而这次还没有。昨天家人做了自制披萨，我决定尝一点。没什么特别的，但这些碳水化合物带来的结果很有意思，没有像典型的 itus 那样昏昏欲睡，反而产生了相当强烈的生热反应，提供了能量。

祝好！