RFK Jr.: "I'm A Big Fan Of Peptides. I've Used Them Myself And Used Them With Really Good Effect On A Couple Of Injuries"

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Curious to see how the gray market adapts once the market gets flooded by compounding pharmacies… wild to see peptide sciences already down
 
PAPoots said:
+1. He sounds like a chronic smoker. Hard to take him serious when he looks like death.
How is this kind of comment (and others) different from fat shaming?

Denigrating anyone because of a medical condition will not be tolerated on this forum.

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ZippityDooDah said:
How is this kind of comment (and others) different from fat shaming?

Denigrating anyone because of a medical condition will not be tolerated on this forum.

Understanding Spasmodic Dysphonia—The Cause of RFK Jr.'s Voice | The Educated Patient

A breakdown of spasmodic dysphonia, the cause of RFK Jr.'s shaky voice, including its history, causes, and treatments.

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I never heard of that condition. I'm surprised I've never seen clickbait linked to an article about that and his name in the title.
 
The treatment is a botox injection into the vocal cords. Ouch. According to CoPilot, he did do the injections. How the heck do you not gag from that.
 
Chili777 said:
Only if close captioning is available. Otherwise, I would have to scrape my fingernails down a chalkboard in an effort to protect my hearing.
You're not lying. I generally admire the fellow and love some of his notions and thoughts on many things but I'd much rather read a book by him than hear him speak. Such a shame, too, as he'd be one heck of a golf outing partner, so many rich stories to tell but so dang me, he's hard to listen to!
 
PAPoots said:
+1. He sounds like a chronic smoker. Hard to take him serious when he looks like death.
If RFK jr "looks like death" then holy smokes, I'm apparently trying to look more like death... I'd hate to see your vision of "great health and vitality" at 70+ if that is what DEATH looks like.
 
LabRatts said:
If RFK jr "looks like death" then holy smokes, I'm apparently trying to look more like death... I'd hate to see your vision of "great health and vitality" at 70+ if that is what DEATH looks like.

Right, I guess they haven't seen him with his shirt off. That man is in great shape.
 
PAPoots said:
+1. He sounds like a chronic smoker. Hard to take him serious when he looks like death.
I think it's his weird skin color that makes me think he's not well. I mean the guy can do a workout in jeans so he gets credit for that. But there is no way I'm following a science denier for medical advice.
 
LabRatts said:
If RFK jr "looks like death" then holy smokes, I'm apparently trying to look more like death... I'd hate to see your vision of "great health and vitality" at 70+ if that is what DEATH looks like.
Hear hear. From this gal's perspective, all I see is a jacked man with that Kennedy charm. 😆
 
mtomm said:
I think it's his weird skin color that makes me think he's not well. I mean the guy can do a workout in jeans so he gets credit for that. But there is no way I'm following a science denier for medical advice.
"science denier"... Hilarious comment and moreso a hilarious mindset after 2020's silliness. "i AM ScIeNcE".... Can't ever take anyone who uses that term terribly seriously.
 
mtomm said:
I think it's his weird skin color that makes me think he's not well. I mean the guy can do a workout in jeans so he gets credit for that. But there is no way I'm following a science denier for medical advice.
He is the one that said Tylenol causes autism isn't he?

Hopefully if he pushes for peptides to be easier to access that or means stove human clinical trials will be feasible for companies to invest in.
 
Martin Shkreli Says Silicon Valley's Hottest Health Obsession Is A 'Delusion'​[archived internal link]

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Mar-24-2026 3:11 p.m. ET

Martin Shkreli sees Silicon Valley’s peptide obsession as a “delusion,” firing back at Superpower co-founder and peptide advocate Max Marchione in a podcast debate.

The Debate​[archived internal link]
Shkreli, who spent twenty years in pharma and made his career evaluating pharmaceutical compounds, says the whole category fails basic science since peptides break down in the body in seconds or minutes.

Without a known target, a binding mechanism, and real clinical data, he argues you don’t have a drug.

“If your drug has never been tested, there is a reason,” he wrote in an X post. “The reason is not that you are a biopharmaceutical genius who has found something cool that everyone else missed.”

Marchione, who founded a health optimization platform that already sells peptides and is building out its offerings, fired back on X and in the TBPN debate.

What Are Peptides​[archived internal link]
Peptides, such as insulin, are small proteins that have been used in medicine for decades.

GLP-1 weight-loss drugs from Eli Lilly and Co. (LLY) and Novo Nordisk (NVO) are modified peptides.

The peptides driving the current craze go a lot further.

Compounds like BPC-157 and thymosin alpha-1 are manufactured in Chinese labs, sold online as “research chemicals,” and injected by Silicon Valley founders and biohackers chasing everything from gut healing to sex drive to better eye contact.

Joe Rogan calls his regimen the “wolverine stack,” yet most have never been through a proper human trial.

Peptides aren’t random synthetic chemicals but endogenous molecules your body already produces, uses, and clears, which gives them a fundamentally different risk profile than a novel drug.

The real reason most haven’t been through FDA trials isn’t that they don’t work.

It’s that many can’t be patented, so pharma has no commercial incentive to fund the approval pathway.

Marchione pointed to ketamine, once dismissed as just an anesthetic, which became one of the most important breakthroughs in depression treatment.

RFK Jr. Steps In​[archived internal link]
HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. promised to “end the war on peptides” and indicated action would be taken to make them more accessible.

The FDA has not taken any action yet, but if RFK Jr. gets his way, the compounds Shkreli calls delusion are about to become a lot more available.

A Polymarket contract on whether the FDA approves Lilly’s retatrutide, a next-generation peptide for obesity that has had excellent trial results, this year, sits at 23%. The market has very little liquidity.

Lilly still has seven Phase 3 readouts pending and hasn’t filed for approval. Twenty-three percent might be generous given the timeline, despite RFK’s support
 
Good-Heart6425 said:
Debate​
Shkreli, who spent twenty years in pharma and made his career evaluating pharmaceutical compounds, says the whole category fails basic science since peptides break down in the body in seconds or minutes.
I'll translate: "I couldn't find a legal way to rip people with peptides, so none of it works"

When I read the first sentence, my mind substituted "prison" for "pharma". I hope he rots there.
 
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