Reta making me extremely hungry

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FlowerFairy said:
It does not change the way these drugs work. It has nothing to do with your body getting “used to” glp drugs. It is the way they work in everyone. 🙄

You absolutely can move your concentration levels up quicker than taking a steady dose for 4-5 weeks.

I went from no Reta exposure to over 9mg accumulated peak in an easy 18 days while coming down from a 5.6mg peak concentration of Tirz. I’m now 7 weeks into Reta taking 4mg 2x weekly.

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There are no really good pharmacology explanations for being more hungry on reta than being on nothing for 2 months. The glucagon agonism could theoretically make you more hungry but I don't see how it could with the gip and glp-1 agonism at the same time. Maybe you have some weird receptors.

Realistically you are still on a microscopic dose. Despite people saying the effects kick in at a certain dose with reta, it is actually the only one that produces a lot of weight loss at low doses , nearly 9% at 1mg/week over a year. Everyone on this forum says it is less effective at reducing hunger than tirz, the weight loss results do not agree with this. Yes it probably makes you use an extra 100-200kcal day of extra energy at higher doses due to the glucagon agonism, but if people were really eating more on reta, they would not be losing as much weight. 100kcal/day is only about 4.7kg of fat over a year ( 365 x 100 / 7700kcal/kg of fat tissue ). Interesting that that alone would be enough to explain the extra weight loss compared to tirz.

Assuming you do not want to give up on it and go back to tirzepatide, you are actually already using the one reasonably safe strategy to increase doses rapidly, quite similar to what I did to go from 0 to 15 mg of tirzepatide in a month. 1 mg per day and keep going with that until hunger goes down or you start getting side effects, and if you get to a week then 1.5mg per day. Given absorption takes about a day, you are fairly unlikely to get severe side effects suddenly as it should only take a day or 2 to have blood levels drop back down to the level they were at before the most recent dose. And if you start getting side effects stop the increases and stabilise. The fact that you tolerated 10mg of tirzepatide makes it very likely you would tolerate a roughly equivalent dose of reta, which if I had to guess I would put at about 7-8mg, so I think in someone who has already shown they tolerate glp's ok increasing doses rapidly by low daily doses is safer than average. I would not recommend this to anyone who has not been on glp's before or if diabetic or with multiple medical issues. But it would save you weeks to months of being extra hungry while waiting for it to start working. I would be extremely surprised if you did not start feeling a lot less hungry once you got to a week of 1mg doses per day. And once you work out a dose you like you can space it out to higher doses less often so long as they add up to the same number of mg per week.
 
My experience. I switched cold turkey from 2.5mg of Zepboudn where I lost 30 lbs in 3 months to 2mg of reta. For 4 weeks I jus simplyl maintained...maybe gained 5 lbs. Then I went to 4mg of reta weekly. After the 2nd dose I got hungry and my body burned MORE fat! Shit just melting and my body fat went from 13% to 11%.! I went 5lbs below my goal weight in a week. I had no real hunger suppression but my goal was to loos weight and it worked. Now I'm backing down to microdosing for maintenance.

I'm a super responder I guess but most will find their sweet spot. Just don't rush it and chase it. Gradually titrate and wait until you have enough of the new dose in your system before you move up. Be patient!
 
woundcarping said:
You absolutely can move your concentration levels up quicker than taking a steady dose for 4-5 weeks.

I went from no Reta exposure to over 9mg accumulated peak in an easy 18 days while coming down from a 5.6mg peak concentration of Tirz. I’m now 7 weeks into Reta taking 4mg 2x weekly.

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Just because you can do it does not mean you should. I’m sure there are ppl doing it. Does not mean it’s safe.
 
From what I understand, retatrutide is a triple agonist that activates:

• GLP-1

• GIP

• glucagon

GLP-1 normally suppresses appetite, but glucagon increases energy expenditure and can sometimes increase hunger signals. Because of that, I’m wondering if there is a phase early in treatment where the glucagon effect is noticeable before the GLP-1 appetite suppression fully builds up.

In other words, could someone temporarily experience more hunger in the first weeks, especially if they previously used strong GLP-1 drugs like tirzepatide and may already have some tolerance to GLP-1 signaling?

I know the clinical trials mainly report reduced appetite overall, so I’m not claiming this is a proven side effect. I’m more asking about the mechanistic explanation and whether others have experienced something similar during the early weeks before the appetite suppression really kicks in.

Curious to hear if anyone else coming from tirzepatide or semaglutide noticed this.
 
I had increased appetite when starting on Reta, it settled down after a couple of weeks and now I get the odd very hungry day but I’m still loosing fat. I’m guessing it’s the effect of glucagon
 
Habibibi said:
Do not freeze reconstituted retatrutide. Use the whole vial, reconstituted retatrutide doesn't suffer any substantial degradation, even at 60 days. I highly recommend you filter, since the main risk of using it past 4 weeks is bacterial growth.
To late unfortunately it's already frozen, and unfrozen, I've added the bac and ready to pin my Rat in the next week or so ... let's see what happens....
 
Everything I have read is that repeated freeze thaw cycles cause peptide degradation. That being said one or a few percent loss from a single freeze/thaw is going to make basically zero difference, so I would not worry about it. Even if it is as much as 5%, and I doubt it is anywhere near that much, it is 4.75mg instead of 5mg in a dose, probably too small a difference to notice.
 
lessthanhalf said:
Everything I have read is that repeated freeze thaw cycles cause peptide degradation. That being said one or a few percent loss from a single freeze/thaw is going to make basically zero difference, so I would not worry about it. Even if it is as much as 5%, and I doubt it is anywhere near that much, it is 4.75mg instead of 5mg in a dose, probably too small a difference to notice.
Thanx that aligns with some of the advice I've read . If my rat lives to tell the tale I'm sure it will report back over the comming weeks
 
Sid the SeaGull said:
Thanx that aligns with some of the advice I've read . If my rat lives to tell the tale I'm sure it will report back over the comming weeks
You have a talking rat? 🤣
 
Habibibi said:
Truly a shame to waste this amazing drug on rats...
It's pretty unusual for a rat to even get fat in the first place, as long as you give them a wheel and an interesting environment. I always let my rats run loose for most of the evening too, back when I kept them. You just open the door, they scatter, and when it's time to put them up, you shake a bag of peanuts and they all come running to get a peanut apiece and then back into their enclosure.

It was the early 2000's, so I don't have pictures, but my first husband says sometimes he'll be doing something and have a memory of seven rats, sitting in a semi-circle around me, patiently waiting to have their Bedtime Peanut distributed.
 
I am fairly sure there are quite a few very fat rats or mice out there in various laboratories, all it takes is a 60% fat diet, and at least hundreds if not thousands have been on reta for their obesity. Not so great for them once they finally lose their extra weight and get dissected. But probably better to try it first on them than humans.
 
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