Reta 12mg - Sloooooow Motion

[Draculawless]

I vote calories in are being under counted.

In the end, it's just pure numbers. If you burn more than you eat, you will lose weight.

Reta will help you consume less, for sure, it may even help you burn a bit more in terms of increasing resting metabolic rate, but at the end of the day, week, month, if you're not losing weight you are consuming too many calories compared to what you're burning.

condiments, small snacks, beverages, it could be anything, but i'm confident there's something not being counted toward your daily intake

Dropping to 1500 is a bit extreme and if you can't stick with for an extended period, it it's not even worth trying because you'll rebound hard

I'd say if you're currently counting 1,950 daily, drop that to 1850-1800 (strict) and watch the scale.

Remember a pound of fat is like 3,500 calories. You'd need to be at a 500 calorie deficit for 7 days straight to lose one single pound. If you go over your cals one or two days, you could throw the whole week away.

Are you tracking calories in/out? If you’re not losing, you’re eating too many calories. That’s the undeniable rule of the game.

I am but ultimately it's not thorough enough. Im

My question is what are the foods you are eating? Until I started keto and eating clean whole foods, I had ridiculous carb cravings for things like pizza and fried foods and such due to the dopamine addiction to them. You can be hungry and lose weight, but if the food you are eating is addictive for your brain, that hunger might be breaking through that way. This is the reason why I don't do cheat days even on Reta.

I can maybe eat 2 slices of pizza before I feel like I'm dying. Usually that process would take at least twice as much. So there are changes taking place, it's just trying to get things moving.

 

[Draculawless]

Are you tracking calories in/out? If you’re not losing, you’re eating too many calories. That’s the undeniable rule of the game.

And that's probably my problem. I don't want to weigh food, but it's time.

 

[Prodigy217]

That’s less “surprising”, a portion of the trial population (~10%) were non responders.

The first thing to rule out could be if your Reta wasn’t Reta.

I have sourced from 3 different sources to try. I did get some mild appetite suppression from it when I moved to 6mg. I've also used Semaglutide and Tirzepatide in the past. Both of those worked for me. My problem with those was insurance and consistency. Then when I decided to go this route, I thought why not try Reta with all the rave reviews. But I feel like I'm just spinning my wheels now. 12 weeks in and no results to show for it. I am thinking of just going back to Tirz but through gray where its actually affordable.

 

[Prodigy217]

Are you tracking calories in/out? If you’re not losing, you’re eating too many calories. That’s the undeniable rule of the game.

No, I don't track calories, I don't really feel like i eat much either. But who knows. The thing is when I was on Sema and Tirz in the past, I never had to track calories and I started losing within the first couple of weeks with both. I assumed the same would be true for Reta...Nope.

 

[Prodigy217]

And that's probably my problem. I don't want to weigh food, but it's time.

Exactly, I know, its lazy, but i didnt think id have to since I didnt with the others. And this supposedly the king of the GLPs I thought it would just work like the others did for me.

 

[Hawk_recon]

No, I don't track calories, I don't really feel like i eat much either. But who knows. The thing is when I was on Sema and Tirz in the past, I never had to track calories and I started losing within the first couple of weeks with both. I assumed the same would be true for Reta...Nope.

Reta is different for sure. I personally have no appetite suppression on Reta and it literally stopped working for me after a few weeks. Tirz has been better for me. Anyway, always the first line of thinking for anyone not losing though should be meticulous tracking (including any sauces, dressings, etc.) for a few weeks. 100% that will reveal the issue.

 

[Draculawless]

I have sourced from 3 different sources to try. I did get some mild appetite suppression from it when I moved to 6mg. I've also used Semaglutide and Tirzepatide in the past. Both of those worked for me. My problem with those was insurance and consistency. Then when I decided to go this route, I thought why not try Reta with all the rave reviews. But I feel like I'm just spinning my wheels now. 12 weeks in and no results to show for it. I am thinking of just going back to Tirz but through gray where its actually affordable.

I had been on gray sema as well up to 2.4 and I definitely felt it. This kind of just feels "meh." I know it's not a miracle drug but so far it's been less of an effect than the sema I was on. Once again all of the reviews for the source are stunning and backed by tests. Maybe it just doesn't work for me. Maybe tirz would make more sense.

 

[Prodigy217]

Reta is different for sure. I personally have no appetite suppression on Reta and it literally stopped working for me after a few weeks. Tirz has been better for me. Anyway, always the first line of thinking for anyone not losing though should be meticulous tracking (including any sauces, dressings, etc.) for a few weeks. 100% that will reveal the issue.

I appreciate your insight. I think I will just go back to Tirz.

 

[Prodigy217]

I had been on gray sema as well up to 2.4 and I definitely felt it. This kind of just feels "meh." I know it's not a miracle drug but so far it's been less of an effect than the sema I was on. Once again all of the reviews for the source are stunning and backed by tests. Maybe it just doesn't work for me. Maybe tirz would make more sense.

Its a bummer for us, but at least I now know I'm not alone. lol.

 

[JoonyO]

No, I don't track calories, I don't really feel like i eat much either. But who knows. The thing is when I was on Sema and Tirz in the past, I never had to track calories and I started losing within the first couple of weeks with both. I assumed the same would be true for Reta...Nope.

Reta DOES NOT "work" the same as those two and from every indication from previous users it was "RETA IS GREAT!": they had NEVER used either Tirz or Sema. "Why isn't Reta working for me!?": they HAD USED one or the other or both.

 

[Hawk_recon]

Reta DOES NOT "work" the same as those two and from every indication from previous users it was "RETA IS GREAT!": they had NEVER used either Tirz or Sema. "Why isn't Reta working for me!?": they HAD USED one or the other or both.

I'm one of those weird ones that started with Reta and it only worked for me for about 3-4 weeks. Then it was like a switch was flipped and no matter how high I titrated up over time, it literally did nothing for me but raise my resting heart rate a lot and my HRV went down substantially. The more I read, the more I see how individual responses to these peptides are. That's why it's good for everyone to read advice, but also listen to their body and make individualized choices. Our bodies are marvelously complex and unique machines.

 

[woundcarping]

...it literally did nothing for me but raise my resting heart rate a lot and my HRV....

Your HRV went up?

 

[Hawk_recon]

Your HRV went up?

Good catch! I meant down, by a lot I went back and edited what I wrote for clarity. Thanks for seeing that

 

[lastresort]

Some of you act like calorie in-calorie out is a magic equation to find the faults in individual behaviors...if that were the case none of us would be on GLP1 or any weight loss drugs

Age does an evil wonder to your metabolism, and a sharp calorie deficit can permanently disfigure your basal metabolic expenditure, as seen by a case study of "fattest fat loser" contestants. Its entirely within the realm of possibility that OPs basal enetgy expenditure is just that low, due to age or other symptoms. It could be thyroid, it could be cushing, or it could be a transient metabolic adjustment due to the sharp deficit.

 

[DjJoshua]

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[Hawk_recon]

Some of you act like calorie in-calorie out is a magic equation to find the faults in individual behaviors...if that were the case none of us would be on GLP1 or any weight loss drugs

But umm, GLP1s literally make it so that you can take in less calories more easily and thereby lose weight more easily. So...

 

[lastresort]

But umm, GLP1s literally make it so that you can take in less calories more easily and thereby lose weight more easily. So...

And OP said he is not losing as much as the majority here. And i think we all know the consensus here that retatrutide isnt as strong appetite suppressnt as the first two drugs. It shouldnt be that difficult to consider that glp1 just doesnt work well for some populations.

I am sort on the same boat as OP, then again I have low testosterone and hashimotos, two chronic conditions that really cripple overall metabolism. Idk what OP has.

 

[Hawk_recon]

And OP said he is not losing as much as the majority here. And i think we all know the consensus here that retatrutide isnt as strong appetite suppressnt as the first two drugs.

I am sort on the same boat as OP, then again I have low testosterone and hashimotos, two chronic conditions that really cripple overall metabolism. Idk what OP has.

And I would bet good money that if calories were further reduced, then more weight would drop off. But I do believe you’re quite correct about less appetite suppression with Reta - which makes it easier to unknowingly take in more calories.

 

[woundcarping]

Some of you act like calorie in-calorie out is a magic equation to find the faults in individual behaviors...if that were the case none of us would be on GLP1 or any weight loss drugs

Age does an evil wonder to your metabolism, and a sharp calorie deficit can permanently disfigure your basal metabolic expenditure, as seen by a case study of "fattest fat loser" contestants. Its entirely within the realm of possibility that OPs basal enetgy expenditure is just that low, due to age or other symptoms. It could be thyroid, it could be cushing, or it could be a transient metabolic adjustment due to the sharp deficit.

That's still CICO... if you reduce CO for whatever reason/excuse, you've gotta adjust CI if you want to lose fat. Health issues can suppress metabolic rate ,make you hungrier, make you retain water, but they can not rewrite thermodynamics.

I am sort on the same boat as OP, then again I have low testosterone and hashimotos, two chronic conditions that really cripple overall metabolism. Idk what OP has.

Hashimoto's and low T are remarkably easy thing to treat, for most dudes.

 

[Hawk_recon]

And the oft-repeated, "Age, metabolism, etc. etc." was disproven. A large study recently showed that metabolism doesn't actually slow with age in any significant way until after you are in your 60s! So unfortunately for many, that's just an easy excuse. https://health.osu.edu/wellness/aging/does-metabolism-really-slow-down-with-age

And here's the study for a deeper dive:

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abe5017