Recommendations for "skinny fat" folks?

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sinan said:
what has ALWAYS been the case in my social circle was that my skinny fat friends were getting their energy intake primarily from carbohydrate-rich foods. i would recommend you to go lower carb - high protein, optimally a high fat high protein diet (keto or carnivore).

this will help you in building muscle as well as losing fat, toning your body in a way that your skin stretches over your muscles which will give you a lean look.
Carbs are definitely my weakness, you're so right 🥲
 
lil ghost said:
Carbs are definitely my weakness, you're so right 🥲
i understand brother i know the temptation. what helps me a lot is thinking about this:

What benefit will i get from eating slop right now? -> 10 minutes of pleasure because it tastes good, maybe even feel like shit after eating

What benefit willl i get if i stick to my diet and avoid slop food? -> progress in my physique, pride in myself

The risk to benefit ratio really does not check out for eating garbage
 
The only way to not look skinny fat is to not be skinny fat.

That means eat a proper human diet and do resistance training or actual WORK for a few hours or so a week, each week, until death.

The skinny fat look comes from not enough muscle on the foundation that was built by bad habits and poor self control, so that’s what needs to change and those changes need to be permanent.

What, why, how all this gets corrected and accomplished have to happen by the person doing it of course, no proxies are allowed.

Comfort is a slow death.

Facts all. 🙏🫡
 
Dydanz said:
How's your bloodwork? have you checked your testosterone?
My bloodwork looks good! I haven't checked my testosterone since I'm a woman in my early 30s 😄
 
LabRatts said:
The only way to not look skinny fat is to not be skinny fat.

That means eat a proper human diet and do resistance training or actual WORK for a few hours or so a week, each week, until death.

The skinny fat look comes from not enough muscle on the foundation that was built by bad habits and poor self control, so that’s what needs to change and those changes need to be permanent.

What, why, how all this gets corrected and accomplished have to happen by the person doing it of course, no proxies are allowed.

Comfort is a slow death.

Facts all. 🙏🫡
I appreciate the tough love, and you're absolutely right. I'm just trying to strike that balance between building a better body and not being a miserable person to be around, y'know?
 
lil ghost said:
Carbs are definitely my weakness, you're so right 🥲

Vegetarians correctly think that carbs/starches are good for muscle, satiety, and overall health. Bread can fuel muscles and their recovery, but options with more protein:

Gemini said:
Product Protein (per cup) Starch Type Muscle Benefit Health Focus Lupini Beans 26g Legume Complete amino acid profile for repair Lowest carb-to-protein ratio Red Lentils 18g Legume High iron and folate for recovery High soluble fiber for LDL management Ezekiel Sprouted Bread 15g (3-4 slices) Sprouted Grain Increased nutrient bioavailability No added fats or sugars Hulled Barley 12g Whole Grain Slow-release energy for long workouts Beta-glucans for endothelial function Quinoa 8g Pseudocereal Complete protein; magnesium rich Gluten-free; easy to digest

What Is the Gladiator Diet and How Do Vegetarian Athletes Stack Up? | NutritionFacts.org

I compare the diets of the Roman gladiator “barley men” and army troopers to the modern Spartans of today. The remains of dozens of Roman gladiators were

nutritionfacts.org

Vegetarian cuisine - Wikipedia

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Starch Solution Success Stories | Dr. McDougall

Many people who adopt a whole-food, starch-based diet have found the freedom to reach their ideal weight. Learn about starch solution success stories today!

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lil ghost said:
Carbs are definitely my weakness, you're so right 🥲
Try ditching the carbs, and switch them with high fat, moderate protein diet (animal fat keto) and see how it's going. Many people have success reducing visceral fat doing that. If you go the high protein route, you might get too skinny, like the lady (43) featured in the video linked below. If I remember correctly, she had to drop high protein, it's wasn't sustainable. Avoid dairy (butter should be OK), it's hard to get the 'stop eating' signal with cheese. 🙂

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXrdP06tfdw&t=1116s
 
Calm Logic said:
Very few vegetarians think carbs/starches are bad:
@Calm Logic --

I agree with you and as the second article especially points to, carbs from whole food is so very different than what most people mean when they talk about carbs -- refined processed foods.

Carbs on a whole food plant based diet get digested slowly and are more healthy.
 
Reta + Tesa if you really want to target abdominal and visceral fat. Gotta eat right and exercise, the peptides are not magic, but will certainly accelerate the progress.
 
lil ghost said:
I'm not a total beginner when it comes to working out, and I'm not about to start injecting myself with anything until I have a clear plan. 🙂 I'm still learning about this whole new (to me) world and just curious about what has worked for others. Most people I've seen online are middle-aged gym bro types, and that's not quite the kind of body I'm aiming for lol
you tube is full of free workouts with weights.
 
I would recommend Caroline Girvan on Youtube for weight lifting. She also has an app that is great. She's a total beast. There's a supportive and motivating facebook group for her workouts, and I think it really does help to have a community.

What is your alcohol intake like? When I was younger, I could shred my belly just by cutting alcohol. It's a little slower going these days (F, 46), but cutting alcohol still helps lean everything out.
 
lil ghost said:
I appreciate the tough love, and you're absolutely right. I'm just trying to strike that balance between building a better body and not being a miserable person to be around, y'know?
Been “skinny fat” a long portion of my own life out of ignorance and denial, so this was/is offered in that context.

I’m now knocking hard on 60 yo and have finally understood that like in the game of golf, our ability/prowess/skill are positively affected by direct action, not wishful thinking- or “you get out of it what you put into it”.

Enjoy the process and all the very best wishes (in my context those are prayers) in your quest for reaching your goals!
 
lil ghost said:
My bloodwork looks good! I haven't checked my testosterone since I'm a woman in my early 30s 😄
I'm sorry I assumed your gender—I thought you were a guy. I can't give you any advice since I don't know what might work for a woman, but good luck on your journey!
 
lil ghost said:
I'm not a total beginner when it comes to working out, and I'm not about to start injecting myself with anything until I have a clear plan. 🙂 I'm still learning about this whole new (to me) world and just curious about what has worked for others. Most people I've seen online are middle-aged gym bro types, and that's not quite the kind of body I'm aiming for lol
Would be interested to hear how you’re getting on. I’m mid 20s woman, do weightlifting & lean from previous white market Tirz success. Feel pretty close to my ideal athletic feminine physique but interested in ways to level up & maintain via peptides.

If you’ve never taken a glp peptide before the early days of affects can be full on - especially if you’re already lighter than the prescription criteria. Keeping protein intake & energy levels up is hard but the fat just melts.

My approach was setting a scale weight goal & then tapering off my usage & hitting the gym at maintenance calories for body recomp (muscle gain & fat loss while scale weight stays the same). I’ve already had good results in the gym before so I knew what was going to work for me, albeit I was starting effectively from scratch.
 
meeperjeeper said:
Would be interested to hear how you’re getting on. I’m mid 20s woman, do weightlifting & lean from previous white market Tirz success. Feel pretty close to my ideal athletic feminine physique but interested in ways to level up & maintain via peptides.

If you’ve never taken a glp peptide before the early days of affects can be full on - especially if you’re already lighter than the prescription criteria. Keeping protein intake & energy levels up is hard but the fat just melts.

My approach was setting a scale weight goal & then tapering off my usage & hitting the gym at maintenance calories for body recomp (muscle gain & fat loss while scale weight stays the same). I’ve already had good results in the gym before so I knew what was going to work for me, albeit I was starting effectively from scratch
I actually just bought my first kit of tirz this morning after doing extensive research in this forum!! 😁 I've never taken a glp before, so I'm anxiously waiting to experiment.

Your approach sounds really smart, and I'm willing to take advice from anyone who feels like they're close to their ideal physique! Have you tried any other peptides that have helped with building muscle? I've heard positive things about mots-c, but haven't personally taken the plunge yet.
 
lil ghost said:
I actually just bought my first kit of tirz this morning after doing extensive research in this forum!! 😁 I've never taken a glp before, so I'm anxiously waiting to experiment.

Your approach sounds really smart, and I'm willing to take advice from anyone who feels like they're close to their ideal physique! Have you tried any other peptides that have helped with building muscle? I've heard positive things about mots-c, but haven't personally taken the plunge yet.
That’s great. The instant appetite loss as a new user of Tirz is so liberating. I take it in the evenings and by the time I wake up the next morning it’s taken effect.

A bit of unsolicited advice: the scale dropping can be really exciting but be prepared to add in breaks between doses as you do drop weight. I personally didn’t adapt my dosing schedule and struggled with fatigue, light headedness, and even noticed some minor signs of stress on my menstrual cycle. It’s so important for women to avoid this sort of unecessary stress on our bodies, and giving yourself some time to have an appetite & energy might also mean you have energy to workout and retain some muscle.

I also never went up from the starting 2.5mg dose. I’ve used it regularly for a year and at this point my tolerance is just at the point where the appetite suppression is noticeable, but I’m eating full meals and putting on muscle.

I’m new to peptides besides Tirz so I haven’t heard of the one you mentioned but it looks interesting. You might be surprised how well you progress just utilising hypertrophic weightlifting principles though, that’s if you aren’t already?
 
Mr. Blonde said:
Try walking on a treadmill. Set the incline on 10 (10-15 is great) and speed on 3. Do this for 20-30 mins every day to begin with. You can add time as it gets easier. It doesn't sound like anything but trust me that the incline walking hits different.
Incline walking has done absolute wonders for me!! Hard agree with this
 
I think there is some good advice here, and some not great advice, so I'll chime in. I always think you should do the exercises that you enjoy at the gym; and keep doing them. That doesn't mean you DON'T push yourself or move out of your comfort zone a bit with something new... but, there is nothing more demotivating than forcing yourself to do shit you hate. The prize for participating in the miserable Olympics is... being miserable.

The other part of it is, genetics play a big factor. If you are tall, it will take more effort to do exercises and will talk a longer time to gain muscle. Same thing for longer limbs or torso.

Also, you can't spot reduce (fat). If you are losing weight, it will just shrink at random all over. For example, sometimes my arms are the first to deflate, then legs, then tummy last. You can, however, spot IMPROVE your muscles (and give the illusion of a smaller different area of your body) by focusing more on them and eating more protein and fibre and carbs and getting good sleep and keeping your stress down and taking adequate rest days and and and....

If you want true spot reduction, lipo.

I'm saying this as someone who regularly gyms, even with very little (physical) gains to speak of. I do it for the love of the game
 
Train to exertion, disciplined diet, rest, repeat. Oh + peptides of course. My RS is on reta + tesa. Home gym is all you need, kettlebell exercises / calisthenics / bodyweight. Focused on mind muscle connection and form, pushing to failure each exercise. Fall over dead tired each workout. Skinny fat to greek god progress is at about 70% complete after 3 months
 
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