Recommend one pep to add to my stack

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or one to eliminate, or both. I'm just trying to get a feel for how everyone approaches this. If you were me...:

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You look like a pretty busy guy. What kind of results are you looking to obtain with addition or elimination of peps?
 
Kirbyzx6 said:
You look like a pretty busy guy. What kind of results are you looking to obtain with addition or elimination of peps?
discovery, curiosity. I want what we all want...betterment, optimization, build muscle, lose fat, more energy, less fatigue, better sleep, sharper cognition.
 
cloratheshadow said:
It looks like you already are running a lot. What are your goals?

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More is not always better. Is there a reason you are taking Wolverine and KLOW? Is there a nagging injury? Also, have you had bloods done? Most people do not need an AI on low dose Test like you appear to be taking.
 
jmon1977 said:
More is not always better. Is there a reason you are taking Wolverine and KLOW? Is there a nagging injury? Also, have you had bloods done? Most people do not need an AI on low dose Test like you appear to be taking.
I'm not suggesting more is better,I'm asking if this even makes sense or not. I'm looking to exactly this type of response you gave. I do have a tennis elbow injury which just appeared and I was thinking the W might be of some help with it. Curious, what's the reason low test dose folks dont need an AI? And what would be med test or high? I went for 200 to over 1000 on this dose. how much higher might one need to go?
 
For your injury, you're making a smart move. KLOW in the morning and additional wolverine later in the day (preferably as close to the elbow as you can get it).

Regarding hormones, there is no simple answer and this is where doctors do it wrong, imo. It's not as black and white as "<= x is bad and >x is good". If 100 mg of Test is putting you over 1000 Test, that's awesome and you seem to respond to it well. But why are you taking an AI? What is your estradiol level? More importantly, are you having symptoms of high estrogen? Water retention, sudden weight gain, anxiety, emotional changes, lack of motivation, ED, signs of gyno?

Any other blood results? What's your Free T and SHBG?

Also age and BF%?
 
jmon1977 said:
For your injury, you're making a smart move. KLOW in the morning and additional wolverine later in the day (preferably as close to the elbow as you can get it).

Regarding hormones, there is no simple answer and this is where doctors do it wrong, imo. It's not as black and white as " x is good". If 100 mg of Test is putting you over 1000 Test, that's awesome and you seem to respond to it well. But why are you taking an AI? What is your estradiol level? More importantly, are you having symptoms of high estrogen? Water retention, sudden weight gain, anxiety, emotional changes, lack of motivation, ED, signs of gyno?

Any other blood results? What's your Free T and SHBG?

Also age and BF%?

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Estradiol was 49. Gained 14lbs when i started stacking, despite lifting , running, stretching daily, and being in a caloric deficit. While I'd love to think that was 14lbs of muscle I packed on in two weeks, I suspect it was mostly water weight...which is now gone just as quickly as it went on.
 
I know someone who would say you could drop all the secretagogues and shorten your regular stack to Reta, HGH, GHK-Cu, and KPV. Wolverine20 (

at specific injury sites, as needed. I know HGH is very controversial. I also know plenty of people who wish they had just went straight to it from the jump. Way cheaper, far more impactful, and you can run it continuously.
 
jason370 said:
or one to eliminate, or both. I'm just trying to get a feel for how everyone approaches this. If you were me...:

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Dunno about the peps however I'd be careful taking Anastrozole (if that's what you're doing) long term due to potential liver complications.
 
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Estradiol was 49. Gained 14lbs when i started stacking, despite lifting , running, stretching daily, and being in a caloric deficit. While I'd love to think that was 14lbs of muscle I packed on in two weeks, I suspect it was mostly water weight...which is now gone just as quickly as it went on.
Lower T a bit, cut the AI and lose belly & chest fat to cut T aromatization. You gotta get as cut as possible. My .02 cents.
 
+1 for cutting the AI.

49 estradiol is a bit high, but should not be that much of an issue. As sugested, you could slightly dial down the test.

Also +1 for cutting the BPC-157+TB500 as it is already in your Klow blend.
 
49 is not objectively high for e2. Many guys find the 20:1 ratio of Test:e2 to be perfect. Again, it depends on whether you have specific symptoms. If you are higher in BF, you may aromatize more, as well.

Personally, I feel that resistance training 5x/week, proper hydration, (mostly) clean diet, adequate sleep and enough steps to keep your heart healthy can cure 85% of what ails us as humans. For us older gents, adding TRT, HGH and low-dose Reta can get that number into the high 90s, but you need the baseline stuff first.
 
Replace ipa, tesa, dsip with HGH. For sleep, I just think good old melatonin works best for me, even through I am a chronic insomniac.

Eliminate wolverine as it's redundant. If your injury doesn't improve at all after a round of klow, maybe just do wolverine at a higher dose.

I personally wouldn't be on R30 if I was pinning only 2mg a week as that vial would last me 15 weeks, unless you are going to titrate up from here?

Hard to say what to add as I don't know what your goals are, but I generally prefer a leaner routine as those endos and pins add up! I do prefer t prop over t cyp though, even with daily pinning.
 
jason370 said:
or one to eliminate, or both. I'm just trying to get a feel for how everyone approaches this. If you were me...:

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And here I thought I was busy. 🤣

Is Cyp, the test?

I'm going to assume Ana is also test.

I keep hearing good and bad news about HGH. It's so tempting to use it but the potential risks aren't great either...
 
dancs said:
And here I thought I was busy. 🤣

Is Cyp, the test?

I'm going to assume Ana is also test.

I keep hearing good and bad news about HGH. It's so tempting to use it but the potential risks aren't great either...
the good is great and the bad is bad. I'm not there yet. Yes Test cypionate and anastrozole (which i've discontinued)
 
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