Novo Nordisk's Answer to Retatrutide is Even Better: UBT251

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swimmer said:
I check all 4 boxes with my ghetto NA-931.

Tirz, Maz, IGF1-lr3

(although it would be nice to only pin once a week)
NA-931 is a daily, small molecule oral pill, as with orfo. But NA-931 will take a while to be released, like 2028.

NA-931

NA-931 is for the treatment Diabetes Obesity and Alcohol Use Disorder

www.biomedind.com

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NA-931 has an estimated half-life of 16–24 hours, supporting its once-daily oral administration.
 
Of interest the new study of reta from Lilly states that 12-18% drop out rate because people thought that they were loosing to much weight. Will be interesting to see the clinical data on NA-931
 
Calm Logic said:
NA-931 is a daily, small molecule oral pill, as with orfo. But NA-931 will take a while to be released, like 2028.

NA-931

NA-931 is for the treatment Diabetes Obesity and Alcohol Use Disorder

www.biomedind.com
This is vaporware

https://ausaminos.com/blog/the-bioglutide-scam-lies-and-fraud-at-biomed-industries/

I would also ask myself why they're the only company with quadruple agonist oral GLP1 when the other more advanced companies have barely cracked the code on making an oral monoagonist.
 
what happened to the one that was supposed to build muscle? (not that gym bro type of stuff but it was glp1 category) I read about it a couple of years back
 
As far as I know the one with reasonable evidence in human trials is the SARM ostarine, at a much lower than body building dose of 3mg/day combined with semaglutide it caused weight loss with very little muscle loss and hardly any extra side effects. Pity there is only one small study in obesity and a few in cancer patients, but overall much better evidence base than most of the peptides. Would probably still need liver function test monitoring as I think at higher doses it has caused abnormalities there. As far as I know it is still in active development. It would be hard to use as the only way to buy it is 25mg pills , which is not going to be super easy to split into 3mg doses unless the pills are big and well mixed. But it would be ultracheap at $30-40 usd for 800 doses plus a few extra $ for some empty capsules. And it did not cause androgenic effects in female cancer patients. The weird thing about nearly all the studies of muscle building drugs is they often show bigger muscles and then fail to show improved strength or physical performance. There is a big market for something that works and is safe for obesity and for frail elderly people with weak muscles ( sarcopenia )

GLP therapies show the opposite, smaller muscles but improved muscle quality and performance, with significantly reduced intramuscular fat.

At least one of the myostatin inhibiting antibody therapies has been dropped, I think for business rather than pharmacology reasons.

It is not really possible to know if na-931 is legit as they clearly don't want chinese peptide pirates copying it so hardly any information is being released. It was in the stiefel obesity report which is basically a summary of the field for investors , and they thought it was ok 7 or 8 months ago.
 
Is the GIP KI lower on this one or will it still bump the hr to 100 ?

Why settle for this when you can inject cafraglutide once a month ?
 
There haven’t been any headlines I can find on NA-931 for the past few months. Despite Phase II clinical trials, it’s still widely reported that this compound (NA-931 or bioglutide) is actually a hoax and does not exist.

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ok I think the muscle building one I read about was pemvidutide, it mimics exercise.

another one called Trevogrumab. There's currently a US clinical trial called Regeneron's COURAGE trial with semaglutide if anyone is interested in getting paid to take glp1s.
 
latviantower said:
There haven’t been any headlines I can find on NA-931 for the past few months. Despite Phase II clinical trials, it’s still widely reported that this compound (NA-931 or bioglutide) is actually a hoax and does not exist.

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The genius touting it was outed as a fraud. It was always a fraud.
 
latviantower said:
NA-931 for the past few months. Despite Phase II clinical trials
The only trial listed on the FDA clinicaltrials website (which are generally entered by the sponsoring pharma company without vetting) indicates recruitment was supposed to start a year ago, but hasn't begun.
 
latviantower said:
There haven’t been any headlines I can find on NA-931 for the past few months. Despite Phase II clinical trials, it’s still widely reported that this compound (NA-931 or bioglutide) is actually a hoax and does not exist.

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If its bioglutide it was scam and was found out about being a scam late last year
 
latviantower said:
There haven’t been any headlines I can find on NA-931 for the past few months. Despite Phase II clinical trials, it’s still widely reported that this compound (NA-931 or bioglutide) is actually a hoax and does not exist.

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Ok, so holy shit lulz, they made up a drug and we all just assumed it exists but it actually doesn't?
 
randompersonrandom said:
Ok, so holy shit lulz, they made up a drug and we all just assumed it exists but it actually doesn't?
It exists as something to invest in. It's every bit as good a total loss for an investor as any other total loss would be.
 
swimmer said:
I check all 4 boxes with my ghetto NA-931.

Tirz, Maz, IGF1-lr3

(although it would be nice to only pin once a week)
I got a surgery coming up and got a few vials of IGF-1 LR3 and some Acetic Acid 0.6%. I ran it before and seemed to have good luck with it after a knee replacement, but that was from a Compounding pharmacy already mixed. How much & often are you dosing on the IGF-1 LR3?
 
DjJoshua said:
If we are whipping out who has the biggest weight loss drugs Why settle for nn-9559 or UBT-251 when you can look forward to NA-931

What NA-931 TargetsIt's a first-in-class, oral small-molecule quadruple agonist that simultaneously activates:

GLP-1 (appetite suppression, glucose control)

GIP (insulin sensitivity, fat metabolism)

Glucagon (energy expenditure, fat burning)

IGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor-1, which supports muscle growth , repair, and lean mass preservation)

The key differentiator here is the IGF-1 component—IGF-1 pathways help counteract the catabolic (muscle-breaking) effects common with GLP-1-based drugs, where 15–40% of weight loss can come from lean mass (especially concerning at age 52+ for sarcopenia risk).
Bioglutide is fake and won't come out. Biomed's CEO is a known crook.
 
randompersonrandom said:
I get nervous about how desperate it seems they're getting to have that 0.001% edge over each other. I'm glad tirz is working for me, because everything I know about corporations under pressure to make a billion dollars whispers that somebody's gonna push SOMETHING through that hurts people eventually. It's not tirz, and I doubt it's reta, but I believe it'll be SOMETHING, and it's so important to me not to be holding the early-adopter bag when that happens.
Tirz will always be popular... my glucose came in way high on labs last week. Im on 10mg reta every 6 days.... maybe its bunk (wbs) i got it last april. Pinned 15mg of ssa tirz and within 2 days blood sugar came down to 115 from over 130 unless the prednisone i was on raised it.... i know its still high but i think it helped.
 
RubbaDubba1 said:
I got a surgery coming up and got a few vials of IGF-1 LR3 and some Acetic Acid 0.6%. I ran it before and seemed to have good luck with it after a knee replacement, but that was from a Compounding pharmacy already mixed. How much & often are you dosing on the IGF-1 LR3?
I use 40 mcg 5 days on and 2 days off. Monday, Wednesday, Friday I pin IM bilaterally in the target muscle group. Tuesday and Thursday I pin sub q in the abdomen. I reconstitute the vial with an acetic acid solution. I will draw the dosage into the syringe and add sterile Water to dilute the acid. I just learned to only use a small amount of sterile water or it burns like hell. For some reason adding 15 units of sterile water does not burn But adding 50 units of sterile water burns like hell. That's the opposite of what I would have thought. AI suggested less and it was right.

IGF1-lr3 works great!! Definite muscle size and strength gains. That being said a pill would be so much easier. Too bad it's not real!!
 
Airborne Daddy said:
Tirz will always be popular... my glucose came in way high on labs last week. Im on 10mg reta every 6 days.... maybe its bunk (wbs) i got it last april. Pinned 15mg of ssa tirz and within 2 days blood sugar came down to 115 from over 130 unless the prednisone i was on raised it.... i know its still high but i think it helped.
SSA tirz is great!!! A T-60 from SSA was my first ever grey purchase. Ada was the sales rep. She was the first sales rep to send me hearts and call me dear when I placed an order. I am now getting close to finishing that kit. You never forget your first❤️
 
Airborne Daddy said:
Tirz will always be popular... my glucose came in way high on labs last week. Im on 10mg reta every 6 days.... maybe its bunk (wbs) i got it last april. Pinned 15mg of ssa tirz and within 2 days blood sugar came down to 115 from over 130 unless the prednisone i was on raised it.... i know its still high but i think it helped.
That's where I am; I'm stocking up reta because I get a kick out of having a happy future in my freezer, but my miracle was miracle enough with tirz. I don't need to really chase the next 0.0001% more effective.
 
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