
And how does the placebo group jump to from 2% to 19%??FarmgirlRebel said:Interesting.
While at 80 weeks there is a clear difference between 4mg and 12mg for weight loss.
But pull back to to 104 weeks out, those differences are pretty much insignificant, esp between 4mg and 9mg.
Because all participants titrated up to their maximum tolerated dose of reta from weeks 80-104 according to the chart and study design.PinKushn said:And how does the placebo group jump to from 2% to 19%??


I'm right there with the poster. I've lost 27.5% in 8 months. The last 12 lbs took 2 months. Your set point fights the last bit of loss hard.yeddie said:Some comments from a blogger who participated in the trial .
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I would love to know if they gave some MEGA-LAXATIVE as placebochmuse said:View attachment 24125
Found this one on reddit.
More for them to kill/mybodyisasewer said:This is a national security issue.
The US DoD needs to make sure gen Z has this stuff so they're fit for service.
The CCP is selling us the drugs that will improve the draft pool of their adversary.
For some reason the US is ok with keeping their kids fat, and the Chinese are ok with making them fit.
This confuses the patriot.
Grogu said:I’d gladly take 3.4% more weight loss right about now
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though, the placebo details seem very sketchy to me.
It seems more like in their desperation, they stole a bunch of Reta vials and went on a stabbing spree.Grogu said:Yes, the 17% in 24 weeks seems pretty dramatic. But by week 80, those people were so desperate to lose weight that they went on a hunger strike.

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though, the placebo details seem very sketchy to me.

I know...weird. Placebo certainly is a real effect.PinKushn said:And how does the placebo group jump to from 2% to 19%??
That's why it seemed sketchy to me, meaning the study methodology. How can you call them a placebo group when they were given the real deal? Second, some indicate they were given the drug later on and then they got huge weight loss...All of that seemed off to me.woundcarping said:You realize the placebo group got put on Reta and that caused them to lose weight, right?

The placebo group is the control group… everyone is in the control group until the test variable is introduced…. For the ones that started getting Reta at 80 weeks, they were in the control group before that. Picture it as consecutive trials with the control groups running concurrently for the placebo and lower dose escalation trials.Smiter said:That's why it seemed sketchy to me, meaning the study methodology. How can you call them a placebo group when they were given the real deal? Second, some indicate they were given the drug later on and then they got huge weight loss...All of that seemed off to me.