Need input on the following stack

[Victorhouston]

53 years old, currently at 262 from 335 lbs. and I'm currently taking

Reta three MGS per week

Klow 2MGS daily

Fat blaster 2MGS every other day pre-workout

and just cycled off of The Wolverine stack and I'm now thinking of staying off Wolverine and using HGH for 4 to 6 weeks, everything that I mentioned above goes five days on two days off sometimes three days off, has anybody done anything similar to this? I'm asking and looking for input here and other platforms too.

Good or bad give your opinions and experiences please, thanks.

 

[Hawk_recon]

I'd recommend researching the HGH a bit more. It takes months, not weeks, for you to get appreciable effects. So maybe look into dosages and affordability over the course of many months and see if that's a route you'd like to take. Also what are your goals? Stating those could help with anyone commenting or giving opinions. Without knowing your goals, it's kind of like "Yeah, that's some stuff you're taking for some reason we don't know." We can presume weight loss and strength and/or muscularity improvement - but that would just be presumptive. Also I'd recommend looking into the 5 days on, two days off approach you're taking. By most accounts that was hogwash developed by wellness clinics that were closed on the weekends. But opinions may vary on that.

 

[dunhacunha]

First off, 73 lbs down is serious work, congrats. That's a solid stack — Reta at 3mg weekly with the 2mg Klow daily adding Fat Blaster pre-workout on top means you're hitting multiple pathways at once. The 5 days on / 2-3 off protocol is interesting, curious how your appetite and energy hold up on the off days. On the HGH question — 4 to 6 weeks is pretty short for HGH to show meaningful results, most people need 3+ months to really feel it. What's the goal with it specifically, recovery, body comp, or both?

 

[Victorhouston]

I'd recommend researching the HGH a bit more. It takes months, not weeks, for you to get appreciable effects. So maybe look into dosages and affordability over the course of many months and see if that's a route you'd like to take. Also what are your goals? Stating those could help with anyone commenting or giving opinions. Without knowing your goals, it's kind of like "Yeah, that's some stuff you're taking for some reason we don't know." We can presume weight loss and strength and/or muscularity improvement - but that would just be presumptive. Also I'd recommend looking into the 5 days on, two days off approach you're taking. By most accounts that was hogwash developed by wellness clinics that were closed on the weekends. But opinions may vary on that.

At the moment I have enough HGH for about 10 to 12 months, from what I've been reading you should take it 4 to 6 months, I accidently put weeks on my post, then stop for a few then get back on it, cycle on cycle off.

like I mentioned I'm just starting this part of the journey which is why I'm asking on various platforms for input and opinions and I am taking all of them into consideration what also what im looking to accomplish is obviously muscle gain and a better appearance better physical appearance.

Thanks for your input it is appreciated.

 

[Victorhouston]

First off, 73 lbs down is serious work, congrats. That's a solid stack — Reta at 3mg weekly with the 2mg Klow daily adding Fat Blaster pre-workout on top means you're hitting multiple pathways at once. The 5 days on / 2-3 off protocol is interesting, curious how your appetite and energy hold up on the off days. On the HGH question — 4 to 6 weeks is pretty short for HGH to show meaningful results, most people need 3+ months to really feel it. What's the goal with it specifically, recovery, body comp, or both?

Thanks for the praise it is appreciated, my goal is a healthier me and obviously a better physical appearance. If and when I do start this it will be 4 to 6 month cycles, I accidentally put weeks on my post, after that I'll give my body a break as you're supposed to when I cycle off of it.

As far as the reta, klow and the fat blaster they are working very well, my appetite tries to come back on days five and six nothing severe but when I do want to pig out I go with grilled chicken or something lean.

What I'm really trying to determine is if I should eliminate anything from my current stack, obviously I don't want a conflict by taking all four of these simultaneously.

 

[Hawk_recon]

Ahh, ok months is better than weeks In terms of cycling off: just my two cents and not medical advice... but if it were me, depending on the dosage there's no need to cycle off reasonably-dosed HGH at your age. Opinions and thoughts vary a lot on this. But 1-2iu is going to be for most people close to a replacement dosage (a bit higher toward the 2iu side of things) and you can always get your levels checked to be sure. So in that range (and some would say even up to 3-4) there's not a strong argument to cycle off other than financial. If you're aiming for higher dosages, titrating down or cycling off for a bit wouldn't be a bad idea. That said, HGH is best when combined with TRT if you're looking for maximum strength and muscle-building benefits, as there is a synergistic anabolic relationship between them. You didn't mention any TRT, so that might be worth looking into. Don't know how tall you are, but if you're on the higher end of body fat percentage, make sure to check blood levels frequently of test and estrogen, so that you are making sure to keep both in a healthy range if you go the hormone replacement route. Reta and KLOW look good as long as you're getting desired results from them. And congrats already on a great amount of weight loss! I'm sure many more will comment here, but those are just a few quick thoughts that are worth what they cost ya

 

[Hawk_recon]

Oh and from personal experience and what I've been able to find/read/learn about, nothing you've got on your stack really conflicts with each other. They're all pretty complimentary, so I'd say you're good to go.

 

[CNCCurrency]

Ahh, ok months is better than weeks In terms of cycling off: just my two cents and not medical advice... but if it were me, depending on the dosage there's no need to cycle off reasonably-dosed HGH at your age. Opinions and thoughts vary a lot on this. But 1-2iu is going to be for most people close to a replacement dosage (a bit higher toward the 2iu side of things) and you can always get your levels checked to be sure. So in that range (and some would say even up to 3-4) there's not a strong argument to cycle off other than financial. If you're aiming for higher dosages, titrating down or cycling off for a bit wouldn't be a bad idea. That said, HGH is best when combined with TRT if you're looking for maximum strength and muscle-building benefits, as there is a synergistic anabolic relationship between them. You didn't mention any TRT, so that might be worth looking into. Don't know how tall you are, but if you're on the higher end of body fat percentage, make sure to check blood levels frequently of test and estrogen, so that you are making sure to keep both in a healthy range if you go the hormone replacement route. Reta and KLOW look good as long as you're getting desired results from them. And congrats already on a great amount of weight loss! I'm sure many more will comment here, but those are just a few quick thoughts that are worth what they cost ya

Agreed,

 

[dancs]

Ahh, ok months is better than weeks In terms of cycling off: just my two cents and not medical advice... but if it were me, depending on the dosage there's no need to cycle off reasonably-dosed HGH at your age. Opinions and thoughts vary a lot on this. But 1-2iu is going to be for most people close to a replacement dosage (a bit higher toward the 2iu side of things) and you can always get your levels checked to be sure. So in that range (and some would say even up to 3-4) there's not a strong argument to cycle off other than financial. If you're aiming for higher dosages, titrating down or cycling off for a bit wouldn't be a bad idea. That said, HGH is best when combined with TRT if you're looking for maximum strength and muscle-building benefits, as there is a synergistic anabolic relationship between them. You didn't mention any TRT, so that might be worth looking into. Don't know how tall you are, but if you're on the higher end of body fat percentage, make sure to check blood levels frequently of test and estrogen, so that you are making sure to keep both in a healthy range if you go the hormone replacement route. Reta and KLOW look good as long as you're getting desired results from them. And congrats already on a great amount of weight loss! I'm sure many more will comment here, but those are just a few quick thoughts that are worth what they cost ya

53 years old, currently at 262 from 335 lbs. and I'm currently taking

Reta three MGS per week

Klow 2MGS daily

Fat blaster 2MGS every other day pre-workout

and just cycled off of The Wolverine stack and I'm now thinking of staying off Wolverine and using HGH for 4 to 6 weeks, everything that I mentioned above goes five days on two days off sometimes three days off, has anybody done anything similar to this? I'm asking and looking for input here and other platforms too.

Good or bad give your opinions and experiences please, thanks.

Pretty much what @Hawk_recon said. Get that bloodwork done ASAP. If you're not sure on what to test, I'd recommend and unfortunately, going to ask AI would be the better idea especially if you're going to take multiple peps/compounds throughout. You can let AI know which you'll be taking and ask which tests you need to run for bloodwork. Then you can go on fitomicslabs.com because they're cheaper than the other places (that I know of) and get it done through there. If you get their "insider" option, it's even cheaper especially if you're planning to get tested multiple times throughout the year.

At your age, TRT/Test is most likely a must... I wonder how you been feelin' these last few years..

Can I ask, I've never done Fat Blaster before. Does it really work?

 

[dancs]

Agreed,

I concur.

 

[Gt3294a]

I concur.

But I would consider holding off the HGH until you drop the bfp a bit more first. You will both notice the effect more and not need to consider insulin sensitivity issues as much. That said, your baseline IGF number will be instructive. And as everybody else said, if your test number is low, you will notice fixing that way more than HGH. All that said, you are 2 steps away from the Trinity!

 

[Victorhouston]

Ahh, ok months is better than weeks In terms of cycling off: just my two cents and not medical advice... but if it were me, depending on the dosage there's no need to cycle off reasonably-dosed HGH at your age. Opinions and thoughts vary a lot on this. But 1-2iu is going to be for most people close to a replacement dosage (a bit higher toward the 2iu side of things) and you can always get your levels checked to be sure. So in that range (and some would say even up to 3-4) there's not a strong argument to cycle off other than financial. If you're aiming for higher dosages, titrating down or cycling off for a bit wouldn't be a bad idea. That said, HGH is best when combined with TRT if you're looking for maximum strength and muscle-building benefits, as there is a synergistic anabolic relationship between them. You didn't mention any TRT, so that might be worth looking into. Don't know how tall you are, but if you're on the higher end of body fat percentage, make sure to check blood levels frequently of test and estrogen, so that you are making sure to keep both in a healthy range if you go the hormone replacement route. Reta and KLOW look good as long as you're getting desired results from them. And congrats already on a great amount of weight loss! I'm sure many more will comment here, but those are just a few quick thoughts that are worth what they cost ya

They you much for all of your input, you literally gave me info I had no idea I lacked, which is why I'm here, I'm definitely going to look into the trt and the correct cycling scenario as well as getting blood tests.

Thanks again for the compliment and education.

 

[Victorhouston]

Oh and from personal experience and what I've been able to find/read/learn about, nothing you've got on your stack really conflicts with each other. They're all pretty complimentary, so I'd say you're good to go.

Hell yes!! So glad to hear this oh and I'm 5'11"

Pretty much what @Hawk_recon said. Get that bloodwork done ASAP. If you're not sure on what to test, I'd recommend and unfortunately, going to ask AI would be the better idea especially if you're going to take multiple peps/compounds throughout. You can let AI know which you'll be taking and ask which tests you need to run for bloodwork. Then you can go on fitomicslabs.com because they're cheaper than the other places (that I know of) and get it done through there. If you get their "insider" option, it's even cheaper especially if you're planning to get tested multiple times throughout the year.

At your age, TRT/Test is most likely a must... I wonder how you been feelin' these last few years..

Can I ask, I've never done Fat Blaster before. Does it really work?

Yes sir I'm going to look into that lab that you just mentioned, as well as fixing up trt in the dosing. As far as the fat blaster that I've been taking for the last month and a half,

Pretty much what @Hawk_recon said. Get that bloodwork done ASAP. If you're not sure on what to test, I'd recommend and unfortunately, going to ask AI would be the better idea especially if you're going to take multiple peps/compounds throughout. You can let AI know which you'll be taking and ask which tests you need to run for bloodwork. Then you can go on fitomicslabs.com because they're cheaper than the other places (that I know of) and get it done through there. If you get their "insider" option, it's even cheaper especially if you're planning to get tested multiple times throughout the year.

At your age, TRT/Test is most likely a must... I wonder how you been feelin' these last few years..

Can I ask, I've never done Fat Blaster before. Does it really work?

I guess I'll ask the machines what they recommend for me in regards to blood work but I will get it tested and I'm definitely going to look into the lab that you recommended as far as the fat blaster, I don't know if I can say enough good things about it or if it's all in my head but I know that it helped me lose weight in concussion with the reta and it helps me in the gym too, I take it 30 or 45 minutes before my workout in the morning on an empty stomach and I feel I get a better stronger pumps - workout with it almost like a pre-workout without the caffeinated feeling I love that stuff, out of all three that I'm taking if I had to keep just one it would be the fat blaster.

It took me a few months to build up the nerve to give it a try, obviously we don't know what any of these products can and will do to us unless we try them ourselves, I started with a low dose but now I use it every other day, 1 mg before the workout.

 

[Richard Cranium]

What is fat blaster?

 

[jaguar]

What is fat blaster?

Samesies.