Men over 50 using HGH or other Secretagogues

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Tbagger said:
There is no such thing as grey test. It's a schedule 3 controlled substance. You will not be going to the legally ambiguous grey market, you'll be going to the straight up illegal black market. That doesn't matter to most of us, but it is something to consider.
Doesn't matter to me. But thank you for pointing it out.
 
brah389 said:
That really works??
It seams to. I have read others saying it worked for them. Whether they feal it worked, or measured if it worked, I don't know. What I can tell you, I could get it up no problem. Started 2 beers and spearmint daily. A few days later. No more elections. Have not had one since.
 
Shittersfull said:
It seams to. I have read others saying it worked for them. Whether they feal it worked, or measured if it worked, I don't know. What I can tell you, I could get it up no problem. Started 2 beers and spearmint daily. A few days later. No more elections. Have not had one since.
I'll try this a week before my pcp bloodtest. I really need my test below 300 so I can get insurance to pay for it!
 
brah389 said:
That may be a problem for me lol....I couldn't even get my pcp to do a testosterone test, she just glanced at my test and said that was normal. But this is the same doctor that I had to explain why my triglycerides doubled while on cholesterol statin. She was convinced it was my diet until I took her to the pharma website for my medication and showed her side effects are increased triglycerides. I feel im better equipped to supervise my own health over my provider.
Welcome the the Enlightened, lol. You may be better going to a TRT clinic. There are more "self managed" options but that's all about risk tolerance. I'm using TRT Nation right now. Certainly more expensive than other options, but if I get questions from my PCP I can say I'm working with a clinic vs buying stuff from some dude on the internet.
 
Mood said:
Welcome the the Enlightened, lol. You may be better going to a TRT clinic. There are more "self managed" options but that's all about risk tolerance. I'm using TRT Nation right now. Certainly more expensive than other options, but if I get questions from my PCP I can say I'm working with a clinic vs buying stuff from some dude on the internet.
Oh man, some of these dudes on the internet are wicked smart and ya'll are helping me and others with education and documentation to read. I do believe that my pcp means well and this VA clinic is way better than others, im just stomping my feet because im not getting what I want, but, like you mentioned, it's about how you feel and I feel sluggish, lethargic, brain fog etc. So I know this could help, I just have to take control, I just wish I could spend someone else's money!
 
Omxxl said:
First, get a full blood test. Based on the results, use HGH if your IGF-1 isn't very high. Small doses of 2 IU, along with retatrutide will work wonders starting in the 3rd or 4th month. If your testosterone is low, I would start TRT. It's the best thing I've ever done.

This triple combination is far more effective than using either one separately.
What benefits are you getting from the HGH?
 
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