Looking to increase your testosterone levels? GLP1s may be your brother-from-another-Mother

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My own anecdotal results to improved metabolic health via Retatrutide have been nothing short of astounding. In 4 months, I’ve gone from borderline diabetic (mid-7s A1C, low 100s fasted blood glucose) and terrible lipids ( 250s cholesterol, 150s LDL, high triglycerides, etc) to optimal levels across the board.

Recent total testosterone results (high 600s twice in 2 months at different times of day) led me to ask another question: Could Reta (and GLP1s in general) be the mechanism to improved male hormone (specifically testosterone) without supplementation?

Here’s what I found:

How Insulin Resistance Lowers Testosterone

Insulin resistance suppresses testosterone through several biological mechanisms:

• Suppression of SHBG: High levels of insulin (hyperinsulinemia) signal the liver to reduce the production of Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG). Since SHBG carries testosterone in the blood, lower SHBG levels automatically result in lower total testosterone readings.

• Reduced Leydig Cell Response: Studies from the National Library of Medicine (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12323448/) indicate that insulin resistance is associated with a decreased response of the Leydig cells (the cells in the testes that produce testosterone) to stimulatory hormones like hCG.

• HPT Axis Inhibition: Insulin resistance is often linked to increased visceral fat, which secretes pro-inflammatory cytokines and leptin. These substances can inhibit the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal (HPT) axis, the command center for testosterone production.

• Increased Aromatization: Insulin resistance is frequently tied to obesity, where an enzyme called aromatase in fat tissue converts testosterone into estrogen (estradiol). This further lowers total testosterone and inhibits its production via negative feedback. [1 (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11471403/), 2 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168822725009490), 3 (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3955331/), 4 (https://diabetesjournals.org/care/a...-Testosterone-Associated-With-Obesity-and-the), 5 (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12323448/), 6 (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6311464/), 7 (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19859074/)]

The "Vicious Cycle"

While insulin resistance suppresses testosterone, the reverse is also true. Low testosterone levels can cause an increase in fat mass and a decrease in muscle mass, both of which worsen insulin resistance. This creates a self-perpetuating loop of metabolic and hormonal decline. [1 (https://www.numan.com/low-testosterone/causes/impact-of-metabolic-syndrome-on-td), 2 (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3955331/), 3 (https://firstpointmd.com/low-testosterone-and-metabolic-syndrome-the-hidden-connection-introduction/)]

Reversibility

There is good news: this functional suppression is often reversible. Research has shown that improving insulin sensitivity through lifestyle changes, such as significant weight loss and exercise, can increase natural testosterone levels and even reverse hypogonadism in over 50% of obese men.
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
My own anecdotal results to improved metabolic health via Retatrutide have been nothing short of astounding. In 4 months, I’ve gone from borderline diabetic (mid-7s A1C, low 100s fasted blood glucose) and terrible lipids ( 250s cholesterol, 150s LDL, high triglycerides, etc) to optimal levels across the board.

Recent total testosterone results (high 600s twice in 2 months at different times of day) led me to ask another question: Could Reta (and GLP1s in general) be the mechanism to improved male hormone (specifically testosterone) without supplementation?

Here’s what I found:

How Insulin Resistance Lowers Testosterone

Insulin resistance suppresses testosterone through several biological mechanisms:

• Suppression of SHBG: High levels of insulin (hyperinsulinemia) signal the liver to reduce the production of Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG). Since SHBG carries testosterone in the blood, lower SHBG levels automatically result in lower total testosterone readings.

• Reduced Leydig Cell Response: Studies from the National Library of Medicine ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12323448/ ) indicate that insulin resistance is associated with a decreased response of the Leydig cells (the cells in the testes that produce testosterone) to stimulatory hormones like hCG.

• HPT Axis Inhibition: Insulin resistance is often linked to increased visceral fat, which secretes pro-inflammatory cytokines and leptin. These substances can inhibit the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal (HPT) axis, the command center for testosterone production.

• Increased Aromatization: Insulin resistance is frequently tied to obesity, where an enzyme called aromatase in fat tissue converts testosterone into estrogen (estradiol). This further lowers total testosterone and inhibits its production via negative feedback. [1 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11471403/ ), 2 ( https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168822725009490 ), 3 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3955331/ ), 4 ( https://diabetesjournals.org/care/a...-Testosterone-Associated-With-Obesity-and-the ), 5 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12323448/ ), 6 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6311464/ ), 7 ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19859074/ )]

The "Vicious Cycle"

While insulin resistance suppresses testosterone, the reverse is also true. Low testosterone levels can cause an increase in fat mass and a decrease in muscle mass, both of which worsen insulin resistance. This creates a self-perpetuating loop of metabolic and hormonal decline. [1 ( https://www.numan.com/low-testosterone/causes/impact-of-metabolic-syndrome-on-td ), 2 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3955331/ ), 3 ( https://firstpointmd.com/low-testosterone-and-metabolic-syndrome-the-hidden-connection-introduction/ )]

Reversibility

There is good news: this functional suppression is often reversible. Research has shown that improving insulin sensitivity through lifestyle changes, such as significant weight loss and exercise, can increase natural testosterone levels and even reverse hypogonadism in over 50% of obese men.
priceless info... Salut!
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
My own anecdotal results to improved metabolic health via Retatrutide have been nothing short of astounding. In 4 months, I’ve gone from borderline diabetic (mid-7s A1C, low 100s fasted blood glucose) and terrible lipids ( 250s cholesterol, 150s LDL, high triglycerides, etc) to optimal levels across the board.

Recent total testosterone results (high 600s twice in 2 months at different times of day) led me to ask another question: Could Reta (and GLP1s in general) be the mechanism to improved male hormone (specifically testosterone) without supplementation?

Here’s what I found:

How Insulin Resistance Lowers Testosterone

Insulin resistance suppresses testosterone through several biological mechanisms:

• Suppression of SHBG: High levels of insulin (hyperinsulinemia) signal the liver to reduce the production of Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG). Since SHBG carries testosterone in the blood, lower SHBG levels automatically result in lower total testosterone readings.

• Reduced Leydig Cell Response: Studies from the National Library of Medicine ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12323448/ ) indicate that insulin resistance is associated with a decreased response of the Leydig cells (the cells in the testes that produce testosterone) to stimulatory hormones like hCG.

• HPT Axis Inhibition: Insulin resistance is often linked to increased visceral fat, which secretes pro-inflammatory cytokines and leptin. These substances can inhibit the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal (HPT) axis, the command center for testosterone production.

• Increased Aromatization: Insulin resistance is frequently tied to obesity, where an enzyme called aromatase in fat tissue converts testosterone into estrogen (estradiol). This further lowers total testosterone and inhibits its production via negative feedback. [1 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11471403/ ), 2 ( https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168822725009490 ), 3 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3955331/ ), 4 ( https://diabetesjournals.org/care/a...-Testosterone-Associated-With-Obesity-and-the ), 5 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12323448/ ), 6 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6311464/ ), 7 ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19859074/ )]

The "Vicious Cycle"

While insulin resistance suppresses testosterone, the reverse is also true. Low testosterone levels can cause an increase in fat mass and a decrease in muscle mass, both of which worsen insulin resistance. This creates a self-perpetuating loop of metabolic and hormonal decline. [1 ( https://www.numan.com/low-testosterone/causes/impact-of-metabolic-syndrome-on-td ), 2 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3955331/ ), 3 ( https://firstpointmd.com/low-testosterone-and-metabolic-syndrome-the-hidden-connection-introduction/ )]

Reversibility

There is good news: this functional suppression is often reversible. Research has shown that improving insulin sensitivity through lifestyle changes, such as significant weight loss and exercise, can increase natural testosterone levels and even reverse hypogonadism in over 50% of obese men.
Thank you , great research. I'm going to read up a little more of what you've shared above. Much of this goes over my head as it's not my specialty however I find that AI/gemini/ Claude helps me digest and point out the pro/cons.

I'd like to investigate the scale of the impact and customise for my own lifestyle. One on the things that this forum and my health journey has taught me is that a few tweaks here and there can have massive benefits.
 
FreshAndEasy said:
I'll just say that I hope you're right
Again, complete lack of data to support my results as I am going by 3 testosterone tests over 12 years (10/14 - 345, 2/26 - 630, 4/26 - 673) and any doctor will tell you testosterone levels fluctuate based on many factors (time of day, time of year, overweight, hypertension, age, etc).

What gives me hope there is some correlation is pre-Reta, and for more than the last 12 years, I was a member of many of the target groups (hypertension, overweight, age, insulin resistance/pre-diabetic).

My next bloodwork is month end and probably again before year-end to monitor some other markers (I use GoodLabs, which makes it easy and affordable), so I will report back.

Until then, my Reta journey continues with the expectation of continued weight loss and improving metabolic health. Exciting times…
 
That Reta/metabolic health/testosterone connection makes a lot of sense, especially with your A1C and lipid changes lining up so sharply.
 
Thanks for sharing this. Did you do the Goodlabs "Comprehensive Men's" package? Were you able to get it for better than $195? I'm a cheapskate.
 
DrPEPr said:
How about your free testosterone?

Higher SHBG usually means lower free test.
Didn’t get the full Testosterone panel in April (PCP had to be begged/coerced for just Total), but Feb 2026 attached. Getting full Testosterone panel along with IGF-1 and a bunch of other markers done at month end.
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
My own anecdotal results to improved metabolic health via Retatrutide have been nothing short of astounding. In 4 months, I’ve gone from borderline diabetic (mid-7s A1C, low 100s fasted blood glucose) and terrible lipids ( 250s cholesterol, 150s LDL, high triglycerides, etc) to optimal levels across the board.

Recent total testosterone results (high 600s twice in 2 months at different times of day) led me to ask another question: Could Reta (and GLP1s in general) be the mechanism to improved male hormone (specifically testosterone) without supplementation?

Here’s what I found:

How Insulin Resistance Lowers Testosterone

Insulin resistance suppresses testosterone through several biological mechanisms:

• Suppression of SHBG: High levels of insulin (hyperinsulinemia) signal the liver to reduce the production of Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG). Since SHBG carries testosterone in the blood, lower SHBG levels automatically result in lower total testosterone readings.

• Reduced Leydig Cell Response: Studies from the National Library of Medicine ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12323448/ ) indicate that insulin resistance is associated with a decreased response of the Leydig cells (the cells in the testes that produce testosterone) to stimulatory hormones like hCG.

• HPT Axis Inhibition: Insulin resistance is often linked to increased visceral fat, which secretes pro-inflammatory cytokines and leptin. These substances can inhibit the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal (HPT) axis, the command center for testosterone production.

• Increased Aromatization: Insulin resistance is frequently tied to obesity, where an enzyme called aromatase in fat tissue converts testosterone into estrogen (estradiol). This further lowers total testosterone and inhibits its production via negative feedback. [1 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11471403/ ), 2 ( https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168822725009490 ), 3 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3955331/ ), 4 ( https://diabetesjournals.org/care/a...-Testosterone-Associated-With-Obesity-and-the ), 5 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12323448/ ), 6 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6311464/ ), 7 ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19859074/ )]

The "Vicious Cycle"

While insulin resistance suppresses testosterone, the reverse is also true. Low testosterone levels can cause an increase in fat mass and a decrease in muscle mass, both of which worsen insulin resistance. This creates a self-perpetuating loop of metabolic and hormonal decline. [1 ( https://www.numan.com/low-testosterone/causes/impact-of-metabolic-syndrome-on-td ), 2 ( https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3955331/ ), 3 ( https://firstpointmd.com/low-testosterone-and-metabolic-syndrome-the-hidden-connection-introduction/ )]

Reversibility

There is good news: this functional suppression is often reversible. Research has shown that improving insulin sensitivity through lifestyle changes, such as significant weight loss and exercise, can increase natural testosterone levels and even reverse hypogonadism in over 50% of obese men.

Good stuff however the primary issue I see is likely having to stay at the GLP dose that got you optimal numbers which likely could be problematic long term - or, stop working altogether in time.
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
Didn’t get the full Testosterone panel in April (PCP had to be begged/coerced for just Total), but Feb 2026 attached. Getting full Testosterone panel along with IGF-1 and a bunch of other markers done at month end.
Cheers.

tendency said:
Good stuff however the primary issue I see is likely having to stay at the GLP dose that got you optimal numbers which likely could be problematic long term - or, stop working altogether in time.
I don't think so, unless he falls back into his former habits. As he mentioned, he was borderline diabetic and had a terrible lipid panel; the GLP-1 was just the catalyst to fix those. If he maintains a healthy lifestyle now, he is most likely to keep this new baseline.
 
tendency said:
Good stuff however the primary issue I see is likely having to stay at the GLP dose that got you optimal numbers which likely could be problematic long term - or, stop working altogether in time.
I guess I consider testosterone improvement secondary as a GLP1 by-product. Long-term I consider low dose Reta (or maybe an improved oral product in the future) as a forever maintenance, because cold turkey without GLP1 does not look promising.

Btw, the Feb 2026 results above were after one month at 1mg weekly titrated up to 2mg weekly by the time of the late Feb blood test.
 
DrPEPr said:
How about your free testosterone?

Higher SHBG usually means lower free test.
Whole my testosterone rose since starting Tirz. 229 to 423 my free dropped 7.3 to 4.8. Thinking about adding trt now but that means my cost will increase again monthly. Maybe YOLO. Undecided still.
 
chewonmysac said:
Whole my testosterone rose since starting Tirz. 229 to 423 my free dropped 7.3 to 4.8. Thinking about adding trt now but that means my cost will increase again monthly. Maybe YOLO. Undecided still.
Did your SHBG increase?

These numbers seem to be more in line with my current condition. Total test is now ~850 but SHBG went up from 54 to 67 (nmol/L) so free test took a nosedive (currenlty ~1.45).
 
DrPEPr said:
Did your SHBG increase?

These numbers seem to be more in line with my current condition. Total test is now ~850 but SHBG went up from 54 to 67 (nmol/L) so free test took a nosedive (currenlty ~1.45).
They did not test for that. Only total and free test. Guest i will need to add that test along with IGF 1.
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
I guess I consider testosterone improvement secondary as a GLP1 by-product. Long-term I consider low dose Reta (or maybe an improved oral product in the future) as a forever maintenance, because cold turkey without GLP1 does not look promising.

Btw, the Feb 2026 results above were after one month at 1mg weekly titrated up to 2mg weekly by the time of the late Feb blood test.
Wow that's impressive on such a low dose; I agree 2mg e5d or 6d should be totally doable long term. Hopefully the results hold over time!
 
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