Lifting with peptide cycles

[ronin365]

Following up...

I am having a pretty good run with CJC-1295 (no dac)/Ipamorelin stack (still on my first vial). I am getting very deep sleep now and I this week I started to see a real difference in my workouts. Yesterday I hit a new PR for barbell overhead press-- 130 lbs 5x5. I was struggling to push past 120-125 in the last week or two. This set was strong and I still had more in the tank to do another set or two. I suspect I won't have any issues pushing past 135-140.

My bench tonight was also pretty strong compared to last week. So far I am pretty pleased with the stack. It's doing more than I expected.

The only gripe I have is that I am not staying asleep as long as I would like. But perhaps that will come as I continue the cycle. Anyways, I hope that helps anyone still kicking the tires on this stack.

 

[DjJoshua]

Following up...

I am having a pretty good run with CJC-1295 (no dac)/Ipamorelin stack (still on my first vial). I am getting very deep sleep now and I this week I started to see a real difference in my workouts. Yesterday I hit a new PR for barbell overhead press-- 130 lbs 5x5. I was struggling to push past 120-125 in the last week or two. This set was strong and I still had more in the tank to do another set or two. I suspect I won't have any issues pushing past 135-140.

My bench tonight was also pretty strong compared to last week. So far I am pretty pleased with the stack. It's doing more than I expected.

The only gripe I have is that I am not staying asleep as long as I would like. But perhaps that will come as I continue the cycle. Anyways, I hope that helps anyone still kicking the tires on this stack.

I have been looking at a kit I got of CJC-1295 no dac in my freezer but there is not ipamorelin. should I try it with out it at first or just get some Ipamorelin then use the combo?

 

[Tbagger]

I have been looking at a kit I got of CJC-1295 no dac in my freezer but there is not ipamorelin. should I try it with out it at first or just get some Ipamorelin then use the combo?

Personally I would wait to stack it with ipamorelin but it's not really necessary. They just synergize well together. One increases the pituitary pulse rate and the other increases the pulse intensity. It's a 1+1=5 kinda synergy.

 

[Bball24]

Following up...

I am having a pretty good run with CJC-1295 (no dac)/Ipamorelin stack (still on my first vial). I am getting very deep sleep now and I this week I started to see a real difference in my workouts. Yesterday I hit a new PR for barbell overhead press-- 130 lbs 5x5. I was struggling to push past 120-125 in the last week or two. This set was strong and I still had more in the tank to do another set or two. I suspect I won't have any issues pushing past 135-140.

My bench tonight was also pretty strong compared to last week. So far I am pretty pleased with the stack. It's doing more than I expected.

The only gripe I have is that I am not staying asleep as long as I would like. But perhaps that will come as I continue the cycle. Anyways, I hope that helps anyone still kicking the tires on this stack.

130 on overhead press, you’re a beast!

I’m about to start the Tessa/Ipamorelin stack soon to see if it helps me. Right now I’m only pressing 80s overhead, so I’m hoping to see some improvement once I start.

I keep seeing mixed reviews, though some people recommend CJC-1295 (no DAC) with IPA, while others swear by Tessa/IPA. Have you tried the Tessa/IPA?

 

[SpaceJumper]

it’s harder to get your balls up and running again after years of slacking (I could be wrong).

Curious what you mean by this. Sounds like it could be useful information for me. I’m 41 and I’m in a huge biological learning phase right now.

 

[Occindemure]

I can concur with the sleep.

Deep sleep but shorter lengths.

I can say it seems that over time the time asleep is getting longer.

 

[Such1943]

Curious what you mean by this. Sounds like it could be useful information for me. I’m 41 and I’m in a huge biological learning phase right now.

I’m 45, and as we age our natural production drops off. From what I’ve read, using peptides to drive IGF-1 back up isn’t as efficient as running HGH directly.

My last labs from Jan 5 showed:

IGF-1: 408 ng/mL (ref 52–328, flagged high)

Z-score (male): +2.5 (ref −2.0 to +2.0, flagged high)

At the time I was on 160 mg test.

Estradiol (ultrasensitive LC/MS): 55 pg/mL (ref ≤29, flagged high)

Test #s and E2 #s effect IGF-1 #s.

I added 1 IU of HGH at night to keep my IGF-1 Z-score around 3. It doesn’t sound like much, but I sleep like a baby.

About six weeks ago I bumped test to 200 mg and added 150 mg Primo. I re-ran labs this morning and I’m really interested to see how the Primo impacted my test:E2 ratio, and what 1 IU of HGH did to my IGF-1.

 

[ronin365]

I have been looking at a kit I got of CJC-1295 no dac in my freezer but there is not ipamorelin. should I try it with out it at first or just get some Ipamorelin then use the

I have been looking at a kit I got of CJC-1295 no dac in my freezer but there is not ipamorelin. should I try it with out it at first or just get some Ipamorelin then use the combo?

From what I have learned, these two peptides have a more pronounced effect together. Ipamorelin increases amplitude of GH pulses while CJC-1285 increases frequency. I don’t see any upsides to using either alone. Also there is a lower risk of desensitization using them together.

That said- I am not an expert. I’m learning as I go.

 

[ronin365]

130 on overhead press, you’re a beast!

I’m about to start the Tessa/Ipamorelin stack soon to see if it helps me. Right now I’m only pressing 80s overhead, so I’m hoping to see some improvement once I start.

I keep seeing mixed reviews, though some people recommend CJC-1295 (no DAC) with IPA, while others swear by Tessa/IPA. Have you tried the Tessa/IPA?

Thanks… until recently I have not been feeling like a beast.

I am curious about the Tesa/Ipa stack myself. I have used Tesa by itself not too long ago, I don’t know tha I noticed much of a difference compared to the CJC/Ipa stack I am using now.

But I am interested in trying Tesa/Ipa after I finish my current cycle. If I am able to get around to it I will post up and let you know if you don’t beat me to it.

 

[ronin365]

I can concur with the sleep.

Deep sleep but shorter lengths.

I can say it seems that over time the time asleep is getting longer.

Thanks for this. I have two more vials to get through to finish my cycle. Hopefully getting into longer sleep phases will happen soon.

 

[MFGamesta]

60yo 6'0" 174lbs. After reaching my goal of 170, I switched to 2mg reta weekly with cjc/ipa nightly and glow (separate doses) during the day. Also on TRT dose.

Lifting ~4-5 days a week along with tennis and surfing, I have been gaining about 1-1.5 lbs of muscle every week according to the gym InBody scale. I say I don't notice the cjc/ipa but I'm making muscle gains faster than just TRT but it could be in my head as I'm also eating more protein.

I'm planning a 12 week cycle for the cjc/ipa pinning every day then taking several weeks off. I'm pretty sure the longevity clinics say 5 on/2 off because they are closed and can't support clients.

 

[Such1943]

About six weeks ago I bumped test to 200 mg and added 150 mg Primo. I re-ran labs this morning and I’m really interested to see how the Primo impacted my test:E2 ratio, and what 1 IU of HGH did to my IGF-1.

IGF-1: 290 ng/mL(Ref: 52–328 ng/mL)

Baseline (Jan 5): 408 ng/mL (High)

Change: Down 118 ng/mL.

Z-score (Male): +1.6(Ref: -2.0 to +2.0)

Baseline: +2.5 (High)

Change: Down to normal range.

Looks like the Primo has lowered my E2 (still waiting on results) and that effected my IGF-1 levels. I'll be upping from 1IU to 2IU nightly to get my Z-score back up around 3 and get bloods again in 3 months.

 

[tomokkerpro]

Following up...

I am having a pretty good run with CJC-1295 (no dac)/Ipamorelin stack (still on my first vial). I am getting very deep sleep now and I this week I started to see a real difference in my workouts. Yesterday I hit a new PR for barbell overhead press-- 130 lbs 5x5. I was struggling to push past 120-125 in the last week or two. This set was strong and I still had more in the tank to do another set or two. I suspect I won't have any issues pushing past 135-140.

My bench tonight was also pretty strong compared to last week. So far I am pretty pleased with the stack. It's doing more than I expected.

The only gripe I have is that I am not staying asleep as long as I would like. But perhaps that will come as I continue the cycle. Anyways, I hope that helps anyone still kicking the tires on this stack.

How long do you expect a vial to last you? Trying to decide how many of the blended 10mg I should be getting....

 

[Aussiegreenmachine]

Following up...

I am having a pretty good run with CJC-1295 (no dac)/Ipamorelin stack (still on my first vial). I am getting very deep sleep now and I this week I started to see a real difference in my workouts. Yesterday I hit a new PR for barbell overhead press-- 130 lbs 5x5. I was struggling to push past 120-125 in the last week or two. This set was strong and I still had more in the tank to do another set or two. I suspect I won't have any issues pushing past 135-140.

My bench tonight was also pretty strong compared to last week. So far I am pretty pleased with the stack. It's doing more than I expected.

The only gripe I have is that I am not staying asleep as long as I would like. But perhaps that will come as I continue the cycle. Anyways, I hope that helps anyone still kicking the tires on this stack.

Would be interested in another follow up on your experience and how you're tracking.

 

[ronin365]

Would be interested in another follow up on your experience and how you're tracking.

Most of my health stats are tracked from my Apple watch/Health app. I am using StrongLifts to track my workouts. I am currently looking for a good peptide tracker. Im checking out Peppedia which looks promising. I just need to get into it and set it up and see how it does.

As for my experience. Sleep has been a little hit and miss for me. But I am seeing improved progress in the gym. I hit 225 on my bench press last night which is a first for me and hit 135 on my overhead press last week. Overall I am pretty pleased as I was not expecting to see a boost in the gym. I still have a vial and a half to go to finish the cycle.

 

[ronin365]

How long do you expect a vial to last you? Trying to decide how many of the blended 10mg I should be getting....

I bought three vials for roughly a 12-week cycle.