Lab results far less than expected.

[Stace_wow]

That wasn't so much a glitch that demoted you, but a glitch that promoted you originally. For some reason, several dozen members were able to bypass the six-month minimum requirement to become Enthusiasts. We still haven't figured out how, but it's since been corrected.

In the meanwhile, you're less than a month away from reaching that threshold again.

I didn't do any magic or treason to get it Zip....No voodoo or whatnot....fyi

Ima go cry in @spanky2026 peptides with them now

 

[articfox]

Send your confirmation sample to Oz. I’ve been sending him lots of samples and pretty happy with his reports.

Also how did you get your peps out of Australia to Jano?! Sucks that you went to all that effort and cost for them to come back as zero peps detected

I will be sending some to Oz, but a lot of people trust Jano.

There is a way to do it, but it’s also a cost.

Yeah sucks big time, but such is life.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

I will be sending some to Oz, but a lot of people trust Jano.

There is a way to do it, but it’s also a cost.

Yeah sucks big time, but such is life.

At lot of vendors are going to either require Jano testing in order to (hopefully ) honor guarantees, or at the very least from the same lab they used for testing when advertising a product.

One of the many, many complexities of trying to make sense of a many product quality complaints is when the customer uses a different lab, especially if it's one without an established reputation, or one that has a questionable reputation for accuracy/reliability.

 

[RetaRX]

So in summary, it seems fresh wind sent bunk peps, won’t refund and only replace the product?

Are they refunding the testing costs and paying for the new batch testing?

 

[Tattoo85]

It is my understanding that most of these afford the buyers significant discounts, that net a reduced total cost for peptides and testing. Not necessarily a sign of altruism within the group.

But your overall points are valid, and I am happy to hear you understand that a community, is not about "Facts or Data" but about people supporting each other in hopes of benefiting their overall experience. Not just cash savings or how to reconstitue a vial.

Yes, group buys often provide discounted prices. I've also paid more for peptides in group buys literally because they included testing multiple things. I also said group buys, but the point is the same regardless of whether it's a group buy or a group testing. They paid for the testing, they are the only ones who are owed the results. I've contributed to group testing after buying a substance from a vendor. I've also been regularly buying from one specific vendor and missed out on group testing a large amount of his substances, and the group isn't sharing the results, and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[Skidude]

Yes, group buys often provide discounted prices. I've also paid more for peptides in group buys literally because they included testing multiple things. I also said group buys, but the point is the same regardless of whether it's a group buy or a group testing. They paid for the testing, they are the only ones who are owed the results. I've contributed to group testing after buying a substance from a vendor. I've also been regularly buying from one specific vendor and missed out on group testing a large amount of his substances, and the group isn't sharing the results, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I agree.

This should be required material for anyone that is older than 1st grade

 

[Tattoo85]

Its not "out of the kindness of their hearts" LOL

Have you ever looked at a COA you DIDNT pay for? You benefited from someone else's monetary investment if you have. I like the GB structure cause the testing is included in the pricing, so everyone does have to contribute, but sometimes maybe someone cant afford additional testing at the moment, and if you are doing it anyways, why not share? There are always exceptions, or outliers....

Lmao, yes, vendors post COA's, guess I've benefitted from their monetary investment. And yes, it literally is out of the kindness of someone's heart if they share the results of testing that they paid for. It's not out of obligation, and I never said people shouldn't share. If someone wants to share, there's nothing wrong with that. There's also nothing wrong with choosing not to share with people who didn't contribute.

If someone can't afford additional testing and it's truly important to them, then they aren't in a financial position to be buying peptides.

 

[Speedy 24430]

Hi All

I am needing some advice.

I have sent six samples to Janoshik for testing, the results I have received are terrible with five out of the six being a total fail. 5 samples are from one vendor, and the other from another that passed.

Here are the samples and results:

BC10- Not Detected

TB10- Not Detected

TR10- Not Detected

TSM10- Not Detected

SM10- Not Detected

CU50- 99.6 Percent

These are the scenarios I am wondering.

1. The heat has damaged them but not the cu50 ?

2. Somehow they have been damaged by customs maybe by x ray ?

3, I have been taken for a ride.

All the samples were sent together, I am about to send one of the items that didnt pass to another testing facility as this will no doubt confirm what has happened.

Yes the items were purchased from a vendor on here, I am not going to mention names or create a dispute. They have been informed and its now up to getting another test. They have coa’s but not for the batch’s I ended up with but are adament that the raws are the same as previous batches with coas. They supposedly keep samples from every batch and are now sending them for testing.

Yeah I know its probably looking like option 3 but maybe cu50 is way less sensitive ?

Any way id really appreciate some experienced input here, if anyone can spare some time.

Thank you.

3. :-(

Sorry.

 

[WholesomeApril]

I will be sending some to Oz, but a lot of people trust Jano.

There is a way to do it, but it’s also a cost.

Yeah sucks big time, but such is life.

I get this. For me, I think I will only go to the effort of sending over to Jano if one of my Oz reports comes back negative and I need to contact my vendor for refunds or replacements.

 

[articfox]

At lot of vendors are going to either require Jano testing in order to (hopefully ) honor guarantees, or at the very least from the same lab they used for testing when advertising a product.

One of the many, many complexities of trying to make sense of a many product quality complaints is when the customer uses a different lab, especially if it's one without an established reputation, or one that has a questionable reputation for accuracy/reliability.

Thats exactly why I decided to only send to Jano because of their reputation and the great track record that they have.

Yeah you make a very good point there, appreciate your input Zippity.

 

[Lovedog100]

The vendor is in the market place vendors, their business name is: FD Biotechnology (Guangzhou) Co., Ltd.• The agent name is pretty Lily. They are also listed as a sponsor.

Here are the links to coa’s

https://janoshik.com/tests/217215-BPC157_10mg_JGDFT6FKBZWW

https://janoshik.com/tests/217216-TB500_10mg_VQL3GT43ZKB1

https://janoshik.com/tests/217217-Semaglutide_10mg_X81FNQN4M9BJ

https://janoshik.com/tests/217218-Tirzepatide_10mg_HR9L1FPHZLFH

https://janoshik.com/tests/217219-Tesamorelin_10mg_KSTDEYGVAUX8

https://janoshik.com/tests/217220-GHKCu_50mg_5A4EYHA16SU7

Due to the time difference I was asleep while most of you were commenting.

Whew, I was just talking with her just a couple of days ago about making a large order. I'm really glad that it didn't work out.

 

[Lovedog100]

That wasn't so much a glitch that demoted you, but a glitch that promoted you originally. For some reason, several dozen members were able to bypass the six-month minimum requirement to become Enthusiasts. We still haven't figured out how, but it's since been corrected.

In the meanwhile, you're less than a month away from reaching that threshold again.

Oh, so that's why I got demoted. Here I thought that I had achieved the rank by being special, only to be kicked to the curb afterwards. I'm like 9 days away from my six months.

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[Nopenada]

My take on testing is that if a group doesn’t want to release decent results, that’s fine. Nobody NEEDS to know exact fill or endos or whatnot. But there is a moral responsibility to release bad test results. If something tests high endos or 0 pep, then I wouldn’t care about a group vote. We all have an obligation that goes beyond who paid for what.

 

[AlexSilver]

My take on testing is that if a group doesn’t want to release decent results, that’s fine. Nobody NEEDS to know exact fill or endos or whatnot. But there is a moral responsibility to release bad test results. If something tests high endos or 0 pep, then I wouldn’t care about a group vote. We all have an obligation that goes beyond who paid for what.

I don’t agree with this. You need to know if it is overfilled and how much. Dosing wrong can be dangerous with several of these peps.

 

[Nopenada]

I don’t agree with this. You need to know if it is overfilled and how much. Dosing wrong can be dangerous with several of these peps.

Then if it’s one of those peps where slight overfill will mess you up, you should probably pay for testing yourself before injecting. Nobody has a responsibility to make your life easier.

 

[Flash-BCR]

My take on testing is that if a group doesn’t want to release decent results, that’s fine. Nobody NEEDS to know exact fill or endos or whatnot. But there is a moral responsibility to release bad test results. If something tests high endos or 0 pep, then I wouldn’t care about a group vote. We all have an obligation that goes beyond who paid for what.

Most test groups will elect to release BAD test results even if they won't share test results otherwise...

 

[AlexSilver]

Then if it’s one of those peps where slight overfill will mess you up, you should probably pay for testing yourself before injecting. Nobody has a responsibility to make your life easier.

I agree with that and I test my own as needed but you said,

"Nobody NEEDS to know exact fill or endos or whatnot."

 

[GLiPtest]

I shouldn't even be putting this into the Universe, but I've often thought that if EL or any other BP company really wanted to try to disrupt the grey market that they could lace some kits with some bad shit and blame it on grey. Clearly that would be diabolical, unethical, illegal, hazardous, contrary to the mission of these organization to advance health, but......

Well, now we know how the responsibility for the first widespread incident of health harms or god forbid deaths from a bad batch of peptides will be shifted away from the Chinese criminals producing unregulated injectable drugs in filthy, unsterile labs, to a conspiracy by Eli Lily, who, despite an army of lawyers, unlimited funds, and the law on their side can’t seem to even get their shit together well enough to shut down the brazen sellers in the US openly violating their patents and breaking US laws regarding prescription drugs.

 

[amosmylove]

It felt like I was still getting some appetite suppression but that may have been leftover from what was still in my system or simply just a placebo effect. There was a peak on the mass spectrometry so it was something, just not Tirzepatide.

Well we cam safely assume it WASN'T Melanotan 2 or you'd be an Oompa Loompa with a permanent stiffy.

 

[Chili777]

A customer received a reship of 63 kits of HGH from Fresh Winds after the first shipment tested as bunk. All 63 kits were bunk AGAIN. All together they received 126 kits of nothing. These guys need to be stopped. My understanding is that they reached out to Zippity with the updated information.