Lab results far less than expected.
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I couldn't agree more with you! As I said previously, we have all no doubt benefitted from someone else's information at some point, so why would we not contribute back to the community?Stace_wow said:
Its a shady game some are playing.
jamesprt said:
Seriously you would make a judgement call with telegram, do you know how many double agents are in them ?
Yes it was taken into account, but I was also making decisions on coas as well as being in here. Any way the truth is no one is safe, its just a game of odds.
I’m not talking directly about your situation, but all over the internet there’s no shortage of users who simply buy from the first seller they come across without doing any research beforehand.articfox said:
If there’s a way to minimize the risk, all the better.
It felt like I was still getting some appetite suppression but that may have been leftover from what was still in my system or simply just a placebo effect. There was a peak on the mass spectrometry so it was something, just not Tirzepatide.AngieHolmes said:
In my case this happened before I found this forum. Knowing what I know now absolutely I would have been more careful but I simply jumped in without even knowing that places like this forum even existed. The company actually has a good reputation which is why they keep reshipping in an attempt to get it right I assume. If they don’t this time I will request a refund. They shipped enough kits this time to reimburse my testing costs which is why I gave it one more chance. At this point what did I have to lose?jamesprt said:
For sure! I often forget about resellers….glad that OP tested his for resale! It gives me a modicum of hope!boytres said:
They should pay for the testing done and testing of the new.articfox said:
Appreciated, and I responded to your email earlier this morning.articfox said:
We will continue monitoring the situation and communicating with FD/Fresh Wind in the hopes of reaching resolutions for those involved.
It’s important for folks to remember that while we do not take vendor complaints lightly (whether sponsors or not), we also do not react in a knee-jerk fashion. It takes time to assemble and consider pertinent information, communicate with the parties involved, promote meaningful resolutions, and give those resolutions time to come to fruition before making a final determination.
We also have to contend with a variety of other challenges like time differences around the world, language barriers, and widely varying demands and expectations, so patience is an important part of this process as well.
Send your confirmation sample to Oz. I’ve been sending him lots of samples and pretty happy with his reports.
Also how did you get your peps out of Australia to Jano?! Sucks that you went to all that effort and cost for them to come back as zero peps detected
Also how did you get your peps out of Australia to Jano?! Sucks that you went to all that effort and cost for them to come back as zero peps detected
boytres said:
Because you have massive amounts of people who will just sit around and not contribute, and wait for a group to spend their hard earned money to test. You're not owed anything just because you buy peptides that someone else decided to spend their money on testing. I have no stake in this either way as I wasn't involved, but I don't expect a group of people to spend their own money out of the kindness of their hearts for my benefit.
The whole idea of thinking of this as a "community" is a little ridiculous to me to begin with. We're a bunch of random people buying chemicals from China, that's it. The communities are the small groups who get together and pool their money together to do group buys, group testing, etc.
"Is a frog's butt watertight?"Flash-BCR said:
Tattoo85 said:
It is actually a little sad you feel this way, any amount of time here and it becomes obvious that not all are "in it for themselves" only.
No doubt, most came here for selfish interests but many contribute for: harm reduction, and the benefit of all, without being coin operated.
The community of purchasers have seen a great deal of benefit, over time, from group and individual testing. There are many that have posted results as a warning, even after being compensated for loss. The vendors, after being held to a higher level, have reduced prices and increased purity in oils and peps.
We can see the trend in value, both monetarily and from support, of an active community.
I hope you take some time and see the lighter side of this forum and community.
Skidude said:
I never claimed that "all are in it for themselves," but the reality is the huge majority of people will never contribute. It's great to participate in forums, but there is an endless amount of information on the Internet on harm reduction, research on various peptides, etc. Financially contributing to testing peptides from vendors is literally the only thing that can contribute to new information that you couldn't find elsewhere.
I'm in plenty of Telegram groups and Discord groups, done group buys where everyone who purchases contributes to getting our orders tested. Those are small to moderate sized groups of people who have a vested interest in each other and the peptides they purchase, that's a community to me. This site is basically the first recommendation to anyone interested in peptides. It's like STG, sure there are a core group who regularly interact, but the bulk of everyone who is interested in peptides comes through here or STG at some point. Most will never contribute, and nobody is obligated to spend their money for a bunch of random people's benefit.
Skidude said:
Agree. I have found people here extremely willing to help, putting info out there to help with harm reduction, sharing experiences. I've DMd some folks now and then for additional info on one thing or another and they always respond, eager to help out.I get why group buys would decide not to share, totally, but it comes down to a different mindset, at least for me: are you participating in a group buy for a good price and private secret info, or are you interesting in helping all of us feel good about what they're buying?
It is my understanding that most of these afford the buyers significant discounts, that net a reduced total cost for peptides and testing. Not necessarily a sign of altruism within the group.Tattoo85 said:
But your overall points are valid, and I am happy to hear you understand that a community, is not about "Facts or Data" but about people supporting each other in hopes of benefiting their overall experience. Not just cash savings or how to reconstitue a vial.
This is a fair point and has nothing to do with cost- if it were free they still own it and are not obligated to share.Tattoo85 said:
This is a fair point and has nothing to do with cost, even if the net result is: it costs nothing for the test due to cost savings on bulk purchases.spanky2026 said:
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