I'm 55 should I take Tesamorelin or just go for hgh and trt?

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What are your goals?

I am a few years younger than you, female, and currently on Reta, KLOW, TRT, Tesa and Ipa. The Tesa and Ipa are helping me with workout recovery and sleep. This cycle ends this week and then I’ll see where I am and how I’m feeling.

I also have HGH laying around, but my feeling is that if you can get whatever you need from Tesa or CJC, then that is the safest way to go as it works with your body, whereas HGH is straight up GH replacement.
 
Get your bloodwork done first. HGH will shut off your natural production. So, check where you're at before starting. Tesa/Ipa will boost your natural production but, if there's nothing to boost.... HGH.
 
Have you ever tested your IGF-1?

I'm about to start Tesa but I'm already at upper limit of range of normal so it will be interesting to see what difference it will make if any. I personally would not take HGH, at least at this point of my research.
 
I would add lipids, blood pressure and glucose and hb1ac, if any of these are not great it could alter whether it is a good idea or might be worth fixing first, and if glucose or hb1ac are high raising hgh or igf-1 will increase it further. And replacement doses of hgh at 55 are more like 0.6 to 1iu/day, most people online are using pretty high doses with significant chances of major adverse effects, and look those up if you haven't already. I do not know if you are on GLP's but in theory at least they should prevent a lot of the issues with increased sugar levels from hgh or secretagogues.

I assume you had test levels measured before adding trt?
 
lessthanhalf said:
I would add lipids, blood pressure and glucose and hb1ac,
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And fasting insulin too for a baseline. And ideally fasting insulin regularly, if going on HGH or tesa, along with the IGF-1.

Testing can be a pain and the costs can add up (even with Fitomics or GoodLabs), but it's better than the alternative. It's another reason to cycle, haha.
 
As others have mentioned, assessing IGF1 levels is very important, but HGH and TRT is the best option I've tried, and now that I'm using RETA and TRT, I'll try adding HGH, and I think it's a winning combination.
 
wulf00777 said:
Yes I'm on reta. I just had all my labs done except the IGF-1 and just a little elevated alt because of fatty liver. Down here in Colombia I can get any labs for like $4 a test or for free. My test levels were under 200 4 years ago and I just started trt again.
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I would recommend improving your fatty liver before starting anything else. It's proven that this treatment significantly improves fatty liver in just a few weeks.

That would be a good starting point.
 
HGH will give better results and is cheaper than any combination of secretagogues. Yes it "shuts down your natural production", but even if you are on it for years, if you stop taking it, your natural production fires back up. Though, at your age, I don't know how relevant any of that is. I'm 48 and the only reason I'm taking CJC/Ipa is because HGH even at low doses gave me horrible carpal tunnel to where it was negatively impacting my sleep. My wife is taking my HGH and I'm jealous 😂
 
55 here as well. I tried serm and ipa, couldn't tell any difference. I tried all the test boosting strategies. Nothing got my test over about 500 and I wanted to be 900-1000, so I just went to trt and hgh. I remember reading that once you hit 50, all other strategies start becoming ineffective.
 
It's just my opinion, however I believe that when you start stacking too much, then you lose the ability to tell what is working for you or not. For me, I figure out what my goal is and then pick one or two things to make that happen. Every month or two do a reassessment of your goals. You may have made your goal or something else may have become more important for you. It could be that what you are doing is working and you should stay with your protocol. You may want to drop one peptide, and try another. Adding to the stack may not be the best for you.
 
I've no dog in this fight but at 59 I'm interested in which way you decide to go. I have a few kits tesa/Ipa and a literal metric shit ton of HGH in the freezer so I can go either way but have a plan to do the tesa/ipa first and see where that goes/takes me before we move into the HGH. I've got nothing but time (and needles. Lots of NEEDLES).
 
ktg123 said:
55 here as well. I tried serm and ipa, couldn't tell any difference. I tried all the test boosting strategies. Nothing got my test over about 500 and I wanted to be 900-1000, so I just went to trt and hgh. I remember reading that once you hit 50, all other strategies start becoming ineffective.
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Yes my brother said the same thing. He said your body isn't going to produce enough at 55 even with Tesa and ipa/cjc but I may try to get my igf1 tested.
 
What are you guys going for with the HGH? There is more than one kind of HGH and they have different effects. Several of you are over 50 and the typical HGH sold is HGH191aa (Somatropin) and it has side effects can be serious, ranging from joint/muscle pain and edema (swelling) to increased risk of diabetes. Common, often dosage-dependent, side effects include carpal tunnel syndrome, high blood pressure, and insulin resistance. It will also help grow muscle.

Those over 50 that aren't trying to look like my avatar should probably look into HGH fragment 176-191 it won't build muscle, yet will help with weight loss. and some of the other good effects of HGH without the side effects that I listed.

Seriously, we need to stop lumping the two forms of HGH together like they are the same thing. They are different. Jmon1977 touched on his experience with carpal tunnel, you can bet that he was taking HGH191aa
 
wulf00777 said:
Yes my brother said the same thing. He said your body isn't going to produce enough at 55 even with Tesa and ipa/cjc but I may try to get my igf1 tested.
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You have no idea what your pituitary will produce until you've been tested. I'm right at 65 and my natural IGF1 is 193 ng/ml with a ref. range from 64-240, so its closer to the upper end of normal. If you jack it up with GH, there's no limit control, at least with secretagogues it's still your natural production, just enhanced. Much safer!
 
People saying HGH is cheaper either want a supra-physiological dose of GH (is that you?), or have tried tesamorelin and found it doesn't move the needle (is that you?). For me, I've found that 1mg/day of tesamorelin is more than enough: it moved my z-score a full point, which is a great response. You should try both, and see what works for you with labs. GH is not that cheap either, especially when you start to need to run 4+ ius.
 
My IGF1 is mid range normal for my age 52, I've debated same OP question. Problem with HGH is when it suppresses your natural GH , there's not direct way to dial dose in.. IGF1 isn't same as GH and TRT can be easily adjust and have good labs to track.

So as result, I've done nothing. Plus risk for cancer is always concern, not causing, but accelerating something that may be unknown.
 
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