I don't think I like this PEP pen

[chunkyTN]

I bought a V2 injection pen. First two months of research were with pharmacy provided injection pens. I liked the simplicity of it.

I've read a bunch of stuff here about the pens and decided that I would get one. Blame it on my need to have ALL the things when I start something new.

It came in yesterday along with vials and needle tips. Purple and shiny! This morning I took my tirz and transferred it to the vial and loaded the pen. Purged the air and got ready for my new easy way to just pin and go.

It's awkward to hold, the plunger is kinda hard to press and I can't get the visual confirmation that it injected that I'm used to with insulin syringes.

Will I use it? Yep, not gonna waste all the tirz I just loaded. Will I load it again? I'm not sure. It seems like overkill. Or maybe I bought the wrong pen?

If you use one tell me about it? I'm currently using sema and tirz (I know sema isn't popular right now but it's working and it's cheap). Why do you like it better than just using syringes?

 

[Jerrey]

Still very new to the GLPs myself and I've never used a pen so I have no input for you. That said I have been extremely curious about the idea and potential convenience so I'm looking forward what ever input you get from others here.

 

[AlexSilver]

I have bought about 7 of the generic V2 pep pen. There were 2 bad ones, spring not strong enough to actually inject and 2 were super stiff and hard to push the plunger. The other 3 worked perfect, easy to press, count to 10 before pulling the needle out and there is no drip. The good ones work great and I would never go back to pulling every dose every time.

 

[Calm Logic]

@ZippityDooDah believes pens are overrated ("stupid"):

Autoinjector pens are stupid

But most people who use pens are doing so for daily dosing of non-GLP peptides, which are relatively worthless in his view:

Peptides are not the answer

I have bought about 7 of the generic V2 pep pen. There were 2 bad ones, spring not strong enough to actually inject and 2 were super stiff and hard to push the plunger. The other 3 worked perfect, easy to press, count to 10 before pulling the needle out and there is no drip. The good ones work great and I would never go back to pulling every dose every time.

Well, there you go. The answer is buying more pens

 

[chunkyTN]

@ZippityDooDah would agree with you.

Well, there you go. The answer is buying more pens

That would be perfect! Just throw more money at the problem

 

[on2jinm]

I bought a V2 injection pen. First two months of research were with pharmacy provided injection pens. I liked the simplicity of it.

I've read a bunch of stuff here about the pens and decided that I would get one. Blame it on my need to have ALL the things when I start something new.

It came in yesterday along with vials and needle tips. Purple and shiny! This morning I took my tirz and transferred it to the vial and loaded the pen. Purged the air and got ready for my new easy way to just pin and go.

It's awkward to hold, the plunger is kinda hard to press and I can't get the visual confirmation that it injected that I'm used to with insulin syringes.

Will I use it? Yep, not gonna waste all the tirz I just loaded. Will I load it again? I'm not sure. It seems like overkill. Or maybe I bought the wrong pen?

If you use one tell me about it? I'm currently using sema and tirz (I know sema isn't popular right now but it's working and it's cheap). Why do you like it better than just using syringes?

I initially had the same issues as you're having now.

The lack of visual confimation was most concerning - it's hard to tell how much you've injected especially with the markings on the internal cartridge holder a massive 40 units apart. But after checking the accuracy of my pens by injecting the output into standard insulin syringes, I felt more comfortable in trusting it.

I hold the pen in my fist and use my thumb to press the plunger, works well for me but it can be a little difficult sometimes. You do have to get used to holding it in place for 10 seconds or so after the plunger is all the way in or it will leak a little when you pull it out, it takes a while to totally unload.

I just made the switch to automatic pens that makes it SO much easier. Spring loaded and easy to inject, just a simple button that you press and hold until the clicking stops - the higher the dose, the more clicks you'll hear. I've got 4 of them now and I won't go back to standard syringes, there's too much waste and you can find the pen needles a bit cheaper than the syringes.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

I like the pens. I have savio I bought when they were about 15-20 dollars and some v2. I probably slightly prefer the v2

 

[lasveganon]

I just recently picked up my first pen, a gansulin 2 and it's pretty sweet. For once weekly injections, I think its not worth the time it takes to load carts but for something daily like tesa, I would definitely prefer the ease of just dialing and clicking a button.

 

[woundcarping]

I wanted to want pens, but all the hassles of defective pens or you’ve gotta push the plunger at the right speed or this or that… syringes serve me well for my 20ish injections each week. Three of those wouldn’t be well suited for a pen.

 

[chunkyTN]

I wanted to want pens, but all the hassles of defective pens or you’ve gotta push the plunger at the right speed or this or that… syringes serve me well for my 20ish injections each week. Three of those wouldn’t be well suited for a pen.

I wanted one until I had one. lol

 

[Dos-Dox]

If you’re going to filter anyway, then there’s not much extra hassle to filtering into a cart versus a new sterile vial.

I agree that the V1/V2 style can be a bit clunky trying to depress the end for the injection. If they are too hard to depress (and not just an ergonomics issue), then something is probably wrong and it’s be worth resetting the plunger and purging the vial.

You can pick up a “bird” pen (autoinjector) for ~$35. I tested 2 of them for accuracy and they were dead on (but so were my V2s). I got one for my mom as I don’t think she’s going to be able to use the other styles just due to the size of her hands and not being able to use 2 hands to inject. She hasn’t tried one yet, so the jury is still out.

I do like that vials take up a lot less space in the fridge than pens, so I only use pens for daily injections at the moment.

 

[Chili777]

@ZippityDooDah believes pens are overrated ("stupid"):

Autoinjector pens are stupid

But most people who use pens are doing so for daily dosing of non-GLP peptides, which are relatively worthless in his view:

Peptides are not the answer

Well, there you go. The answer is buying more pens

I have to ask. You have how many pens?

 

[X3rocks]

I have bought about 7 of the generic V2 pep pen. There were 2 bad ones, spring not strong enough to actually inject and 2 were super stiff and hard to push the plunger. The other 3 worked perfect, easy to press, count to 10 before pulling the needle out and there is no drip. The good ones work great and I would never go back to pulling every dose every time.

I have run into the same problem. You think it injected but when you lift up the pen its either dripping or spraying a stream of peptide everywhere. Seems like the pens worked great the first time but got weak when reloaded.

The simplicity of it all is great if it works correctly. Maybe a better quality pen would help.

 

[Chili777]

I wanted to want pens, but all the hassles of defective pens or you’ve gotta push the plunger at the right speed or this or that… syringes serve me well for my 20ish injections each week. Three of those wouldn’t be well suited for a pen.

I also have 250 31g syringes, so there's that.

 

[Nmcoyote1]

I have been doing 1-3 injections a week for a couple years and still have not tried a pen. As it seems like too much bother versus a minute or two to inject with a syringe. If I was doing more I might consider it.

 

[woundcarping]

I also have 250 31g syringes, so there's that.

Those are rookie numbers

 

[chunkyTN]

If you’re going to filter anyway, then there’s not much extra hassle to filtering into a cart versus a new sterile vial.

I agree that the V1/V2 style can be a bit clunky trying to depress the end for the injection. If they are too hard to depress (and not just an ergonomics issue), then something is probably wrong and it’s be worth resetting the plunger and purging the vial.

You can pick up a “bird” pen (autoinjector) for ~$35. I tested 2 of them for accuracy and they were dead on (but so were my V2s). I got one for my mom as I don’t think she’s going to be able to use the other styles just due to the size of her hands and not being able to use 2 hands to inject. She hasn’t tried one yet, so the jury is still out.

I do like that vials take up a lot less space in the fridge than pens, so I only use pens for daily injections at the moment.

I keep seeing the "bird" pen mentioned but honestly I'm not sure what that is.

You have a point about filtering right into the cart. Today I transferred a partial vial into a cart cause I was looking forward to using the pen.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

If you filter anyway the pen creates zero extra effort. I hate all the waste of the insulin syringes. So much plastic

 

[Chili777]

If you filter anyway the pen creates zero extra effort. I hate all the waste of the insulin syringes. So much plastic

I just put mine in a Sharps container and send it back to them in the box they send, postage paid. Then I get a new one in 3 days and fill it up again. Rinse, repeat. If I was trashing them, I'd be more concerned.

 

[DjJoshua]

If you’re going to filter anyway, then there’s not much extra hassle to filtering into a cart versus a new sterile vial.

I agree that the V1/V2 style can be a bit clunky trying to depress the end for the injection. If they are too hard to depress (and not just an ergonomics issue), then something is probably wrong and it’s be worth resetting the plunger and purging the vial.

You can pick up a “bird” pen (autoinjector) for ~$35. I tested 2 of them for accuracy and they were dead on (but so were my V2s). I got one for my mom as I don’t think she’s going to be able to use the other styles just due to the size of her hands and not being able to use 2 hands to inject. She hasn’t tried one yet, so the jury is still out.

I do like that vials take up a lot less space in the fridge than pens, so I only use pens for daily injections at the moment.

Im with you, for a small everyday injections, I like the pens.