过滤和污染。

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IshimaruKenta said:
Still getting over it, but it looks like the worst is over for now. Two days after pin and it doesn't look like symptoms are returning which is so great. I only wish dysentery on scammers.
I just purchased 4 kits of T30 and their most recent COA has the orange cap. I filter everything, but fingers crossed they send the black cap and just haven't tested it. Please keep us updated on how you feel after filtering the orange cap.
 
IshimaruKenta said:
The first batch I tried was from Mix. I also have some from JEEP, but only used Mix so far. I know it failed at ABC and Mix, idk if JEEP ever got sterility tested, but it might have failed too. Trying to find non-orange cap T30 is tough. And everyone is migrating to black T30 now, and I have no idea if they did sterility tests on those yet.

#GoHawks
Thanks for that...So far, you think filtering it helped/fixed it?
 
thatkatmat said:
Thanks for that...So far, you think filtering it helped/fixed it?
After two days, I'm guessing yes, but I'll report back in a couple more days.
 
Mini update, I thought I was getting worse but turns out I just ate some dairy without taking my Lactaid. 🤣 Doing good so far.
 
In response to IshimaruKenta. I am not trying to suggest that mucus and rectal bleeding could not in theory be caused by contaminants in tirzepatide, but I really cannot think of any possible mechanism that makes any real sense other than tirzepatide causing diarrhoea and the pr bleeding being secondary to anal abrasions or bleeding haemorrhoids irritated by the diarrhoea. In which case it is not due to contaminants just side effects.

In general rectal bleeding and mucus is something that needs medical assessment. Just because you are taking a glp medication does not stop you from catching a bacterial gut infection, from food, water, people or travel and the ones that cause bleeding usually require antibiotics. And then there are the other causes like bowel cancer and inflammatory bowel disease, which need to be at least considered and excluded. Most rectal bleeding is from local anal issues, which will heal up, but ignoring these symptoms is generally considered to be a bad idea, because that is exactly how you get diagnosed with advanced bowel cancer. I see at minimum stool cultures being required, if it might be infective, blood count and maybe colonoscopy. Sorry, they are not much fun.

So I would strongly recommend seeing a doctor.
 
lessthanhalf said:
In response to IshimaruKenta. I am not trying to suggest that mucus and rectal bleeding could not in theory be caused by contaminants in tirzepatide, but I really cannot think of any possible mechanism that makes any real sense other than tirzepatide causing diarrhoea and the pr bleeding being secondary to anal abrasions or bleeding haemorrhoids irritated by the diarrhoea. In which case it is not due to contaminants just side effects.

In general rectal bleeding and mucus is something that needs medical assessment. Just because you are taking a glp medication does not stop you from catching a bacterial gut infection, from food, water, people or travel and the ones that cause bleeding usually require antibiotics. And then there are the other causes like bowel cancer and inflammatory bowel disease, which need to be at least considered and excluded. Most rectal bleeding is from local anal issues, which will heal up, but ignoring these symptoms is generally considered to be a bad idea, because that is exactly how you get diagnosed with advanced bowel cancer. I see at minimum stool cultures being required, if it might be infective, blood count and maybe colonoscopy. Sorry, they are not much fun.

So I would strongly recommend seeing a doctor.
Well i w a s totally going to start filtering my shit. But instead, with this latest revelation, am just going to cut down on my weekly amounts of rimming.

I knew that i got pinkeye from somewhere, thought it was the ipamorelin being unfiltered, but now think its cause i had my finger in an asshole and then rubbed my eye. Im gonna filter less and shower more from now on. This thread has me feeling all kinds of ways, the biggest being that i dont ever want to shake hands or get something in the mail from Ishi.

Points taken, lesson learned
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:
Well i w a s totally going to start filtering my shit. But instead, with this latest revelation, am just going to cut down on my weekly amounts of rimming.

i had my finger in an asshole and then rubbed my eye.
I could tell you a story about a veterinarian, but I'll refrain so as to keep with the essence of the original post .
 
lessthanhalf said:
In response to IshimaruKenta. I am not trying to suggest that mucus and rectal bleeding could not in theory be caused by contaminants in tirzepatide, but I really cannot think of any possible mechanism that makes any real sense other than tirzepatide causing diarrhoea and the pr bleeding being secondary to anal abrasions or bleeding haemorrhoids irritated by the diarrhoea. In which case it is not due to contaminants just side effects.

In general rectal bleeding and mucus is something that needs medical assessment. Just because you are taking a glp medication does not stop you from catching a bacterial gut infection, from food, water, people or travel and the ones that cause bleeding usually require antibiotics. And then there are the other causes like bowel cancer and inflammatory bowel disease, which need to be at least considered and excluded. Most rectal bleeding is from local anal issues, which will heal up, but ignoring these symptoms is generally considered to be a bad idea, because that is exactly how you get diagnosed with advanced bowel cancer. I see at minimum stool cultures being required, if it might be infective, blood count and maybe colonoscopy. Sorry, they are not much fun.

So I would strongly recommend seeing a doctor.
Well, tirzepatide is the only injection I've done, multiple vendors sold T30 that failed sterility and my symptoms start just after I pinned myself. Given that I've been on tirzepatide since July, never had diarrhea prior to this, never pooped clear mucus with some blood, and have all the symptoms of bacillary dysentery, I'm going to assume it's from the contaminated vials. 🤷‍♂️
 
Gr33dyOctopus said:
Well i w a s totally going to start filtering my shit. But instead, with this latest revelation, am just going to cut down on my weekly amounts of rimming.

I knew that i got pinkeye from somewhere, thought it was the ipamorelin being unfiltered, but now think its cause i had my finger in an asshole and then rubbed my eye. Im gonna filter less and shower more from now on. This thread has me feeling all kinds of ways, the biggest being that i dont ever want to shake hands or get something in the mail from Ishi.

Points taken, lesson learned
Damnit, and I was just going to mail you some hand picked keepsakes. 😢
 
Full update: I feel perfectly fine now. Had a bit of stomach discomfort, nausea and gas this weekend, but right now I'm feeling 95%. I did take some LL-37 and TA1 just to help get rid of it. Filtering works!
 
I might have spoken too soon. Started feeling symptoms again (no mucus yet luckily). I think I'm just going to toss the rest of the Mix T30. Despite filtering, it didn't seem to get rid of what I have. I bought 4 kits of Mix T30 and I'm pretty pissed that all the vials I've tried so far, are bad. Now I'm debating whether to recon the T30 from JEEP I have. I'm honestly not excited about any orange cap T30. Has anyone seen a sterility test for the black cap T30?

And since no vendor guarantees sterility, I'm pretty disappointed that I wasted all that money on this.
 
390120 said:
I got 13mm 0.22um PES filters, individually packaged from ali express, and I flush the filter with about an additional 0.2mL of BAC to retrieve the contents stuck in the filter.

I also got a laminar flow hood from amazon for $260 CAD
That seems like a wild combination! 😆 Laminar flow hoods are great but the Ali Express filters are always sus. I use the Biologix ones linked below and it looks like they have free shipping to Canada for the filters as well if you ever want to upgrade.

Biologix® 13mm Sterile PES Syringe Filter, 0.22µm, 100/pk

High-throughput Biologix® sterile PES syringe filters. Ideal for biological fluid filtration. >98.5% protein recovery. Multiple diameters. Shop now!

biologixusa.com
 
While everyone is looking at the peptide as one likely culprit (and maybe it is), I still see so many people relying blindly on vendors/resellers/Amazon BAC waters without any afterthought. This irks me.

Filtering is so inexpensive I really think should be in the first hour of the first lesson of our peptide hobby.
 
cat_walk said:
While everyone is looking at the peptide as one likely culprit (and maybe it is), I still see so many people relying blindly on vendors/resellers/Amazon BAC waters without any afterthought. This irks me.

Filtering is so inexpensive I really think should be in the first hour of the first lesson of our peptide hobby.
Only Hospira for me.
 
FilterOrDeath said:
That seems like a wild combination! 😆 Laminar flow hoods are great but the Ali Express filters are always sus. I use the Biologix ones linked below and it looks like they have free shipping to Canada for the filters as well if you ever want to upgrade.

Biologix® 13mm Sterile PES Syringe Filter, 0.22µm, 100/pk

High-throughput Biologix® sterile PES syringe filters. Ideal for biological fluid filtration. >98.5% protein recovery. Multiple diameters. Shop now!

biologixusa.com
Thanks for the link! I couldn’t find a good Canadian source where they are individually wrapped. That price is actually cheaper than the Ali express one I ordered too
 
Are there more people here having issues with the orange cap T30? I also will have it (if it arrives next week), but different vendor. Planing to test it and filter it.
 
390120 said:
Thanks for the link! I couldn’t find a good Canadian source where they are individually wrapped. That price is actually cheaper than the Ali express one I ordered too
You're welcome! I put in some random address in Alberta to confirm the free shipping so I didn't tell you wrong. Check out their accessories section too, they have some fun cheap swag there 😎

They may ship free to all countries for everything except reagents so it's worth checking out for anyone looking for filters.
 
Gwynhwyfar said:
Are there more people here having issues with the orange cap T30? I also will have it (if it arrives next week), but different vendor. Planing to test it and filter it.
目前我只测试过 Mix 的 T30 橙色盖子。我也有 JEEP 的盖子,但还没用过。想找到非橙色的盖子(现在还有黑色的盖子)真不容易。
 
IshimaruKenta said:
目前我只测试过 Mix 的 T30 橙色盖子。我也有 JEEP 的盖子,但还没用过。想找到非橙色的盖子(现在还有黑色的盖子)真不容易。
很遗憾听到你最近不太舒服。肠胃问题确实让人难受。我服用Mounjaro的时候也经历过几次严重的胃痛,所以我知道那种感觉有多难受。

我服用JEEPs橙色胶囊装的T30大概一个月了,目前没有任何问题。这款产品从6月25日就开始流通了,所以如果它真的存在什么大范围的问题,我们应该早就有所耳闻了。

我见过一些橙色胶囊装T30的分析证书,剂量高达36毫克(Aurora)。如果你认为所有产品都来自同一来源,那么会不会是你注射的剂量比你想象的要高呢?你的症状和发作时间更符合剂量相关的副作用,而不是痢疾之类的疾病。

痢疾杆菌——引起痢疾的细菌——不太可能存在于冻干药瓶中,而且它需要口服才能感染肠道上皮细胞。皮下注射志贺氏菌不会导致痢疾。Peter

Magic 在 PepTok 的采访中提到,最常见的检测失败情况是检测结果为 3-5% 的样本不育,但过滤几乎可以消除这种风险。可能存在一些内毒素风险,但我也不确定这是否能解释你的症状。这些症状更符合剂量相关的副作用。我建议你不要急着把所有 T30 都扔掉!或许可以试试用 Hospira 过滤后降低剂量,看看效果如何。我甚至建议你用注射用水配制一剂,这样可以排除其他因素的影响,然后注射你平时用量的一半,看看感觉如何。我觉得你的 T30 还是有希望的!
 
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