Fellow early gym goers and Mot-c

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jimmyjames01 said:
I cant wait to get on TRT.

Have my bloods tomorrow and hopefully this baby and lack of sleep have tanked my test levels even further.

Tried 6 months ago but was just above acceptable TRT levels.
I wasn't looking for TRT. I went to my doctor because I was in a bad state of depression.

Turns out it was all because of EXTREMELY low testosterone levels. My body stopped producing it.

I seen an endocrinologist and 2 hours after my first injection I felt GREAT !

Unbelievable that is due to low test. And depression gone...2 hours after !!!
 
CharlieBrown said:
I wasn't looking for TRT. I went to my doctor because I was in a bad state of depression.

Turns out it was all because of EXTREMELY low testosterone levels. My body stopped producing it.

I seen an endocrinologist and 2 hours after my first injection I felt GREAT !

Unbelievable that is due to low test. And depression gone...2 hours after !!!
Solid success story man, i love it.

Do you remember what your free and total test levels were back then?
 
Kind off but on topic for the early gym goers in the thread. What time are you guys usually in bed by?

Went to the gym for the first time at 4:30am and there's wasn't crowds of broccoli heads everywhere and was able to get a sick workout in without waiting for a single machine.

Had gone to bed at like 11pm the night before so obviously not optimal but looking to see how you guys do it.
 
Estarossa19 said:
Kind off but on topic for the early gym goers in the thread. What time are you guys usually in bed by?

Went to the gym for the first time at 4:30am and there's wasn't crowds of broccoli heads everywhere and was able to get a sick workout in without waiting for a single machine.

Had gone to bed at like 11pm the night before so obviously not optimal but looking to see how you guys do it.
This week has been 3:30am gym sessions and generally go to bed when i get the baby down around 7-7:30pm.

Only 2 other people in the gym at that time which is amazing, i have a strict gym plan thag I like to follow and hate when I have to go off schedule cause a machine is taken by some broccoli head.
 
jimmyjames01 said:
Solid success story man, i love it.

Do you remember what your free and total test levels were back then?
I can't remember, but I do remember hearing the endocrinologist saying he's never seen numbers that low. I guess several months of not producing... 😢
 
Estarossa19 said:
Kind off but on topic for the early gym goers in the thread. What time are you guys usually in bed by?

Went to the gym for the first time at 4:30am and there's wasn't crowds of broccoli heads everywhere and was able to get a sick workout in without waiting for a single machine.

Had gone to bed at like 11pm the night before so obviously not optimal but looking to see how you guys do it.
I had to google broccoli head.....lol

I usually go to bed at 930pm, but I'm a senior. Then I'm up at 4am and usually can't get back to sleep properly.

I go to the gym at 8am (not 745) after the working class vacates the gym. I made the mistake of going a bit early......well never again. I don't want to see a fat hairy naked ass when I walk into the change room 🤢 🤢 🤢
 
DeeSol said:
Yup! When I was dosing it every morning, it was pre-workout. I would still have some carbs via EAAs + Cluster Dextrin (25-30g carbs total) + a caffeine tab before or during my workout. Otherwise I’d go Hypoglycemic.

Tbh I think you’re fine taking in carbs or fasted. End of the day it will be your calorie deficit. One thing to note, mots-c def improves insulin sensitivity so it’ll better partition carbs to your muscles.

Been dosing it since last October. Tbh I don’t notice too much from it beyond some better insulin sensitivity which I confirmed via my CGM. But I never got an energetic or stim feeling from it. I kinda view it as ‘software running in the background’ just keeping things optimal. 😅

How’re you liking the 5mg MWF dosing? Notice any difference?

jimmyjames01 said:
Have

Have you noticed any difference in your ensurance during workouts?

I tried 3ml this morning before my leg session and even after an hour of heavy legs, I felt I could have continued.

Definitely a noticeable difference.

Placebo, maybe.
OKAY.....I did a lot of reading/research yesterday; I did do a lot before ordering Mots-C.

But reading peoples comments about how they had so much energy when going to the gym just clouded my thinking. I cleared my mind and it finally sunk in. I apologize if you already know this.

"Deesol" and I were expecting it to have a energetic or stim feeling like a pre-workout.

It does NOT do that. It is not a stimulant. It is known to improve physical performance by acting as a mitochondrial-derived peptide that optimizes cellular metabolism and energy production.

So with that said, here is what I noticed since I started 1 1/2weeks ago.

1. I lost 2lbs in 1 1/2 weeks. I think that's a lot. It's the most I lost this month in that time frame. I'm now at 141lbs. I can rest assure I have not lost any lean muscle tissue. I will attach a pic I took at the gym today. My cheap weight scale indicates I went up 0.2 in muscle mass.

2. This might be normal progressive overload, but I increased about 25% of my reps by at least 1 in the last week using the same weight. I will have to monitor this over the next few weeks.

3. I think this is most important and it confirms what "jimmyjames01" mentioned. I do not feel exhausted at the end of my 90 minute workout. I walked through the parking lot today so fast that I actually walked past my car....lol. I feel like I can keep working out or go for a run.

To sum it up, I believe Mots-C is working. I was just under the assumption that I would feel some stim.

And I will stay with the Mon-Wed-Fri 5mg pin because....The biological effects, including AMPK pathway activation and improved insulin sensitivity persist for 24–72 hours or longer, as the peptide triggers lasting changes in mitochondrial function and cellular metabolism.

Took this pic quickly this morning....

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What about this advice from Meso?:

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/reta-vs-mots-c-on-lean-bulk.134439941/

quoted said:
I'd steer away from mots-c on a bulk. It activates AMPK pathways which are counter to maximizing protein synthesis.
 
Calm Logic said:
What about this advice from Meso?:

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/reta-vs-mots-c-on-lean-bulk.134439941/
I'm not looking to bulk. I've come down from 160lbs in January (141lb now). Working out is a part of my lifestyle now and of course to avoid muscle loss while on Reta.

My short-sleeve shirts use to be extremely tight around my biceps, now I have a 1 inch gap.

This is my goal......

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