Epithalon
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sure what you're asking..... I bought the Snoot sterile nasal spray bottles and used sterile water for injection to reconstitute
2boxers
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Yes it helps with sleep, 1 mg per night is all you needvale113 said:
randompersonrandom
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I will run one mg per day of Epitalon for twenty days every three months until I am dead or until someone makes me stop.
I let my mom have some of my stash to see if she liked it, and now SHE will run one mg per day of Epitalon for twenty days every three months until SHE is dead or someone makes HER stop.
I am feeling miserly about my hoard of it (I currently have 9 vials of 7.5 mg after I send her enough to keep her good for a second cycle) and 2 kits coming from a GB. Now I have to find HER a source too, so that's a whole thing.
I let my mom have some of my stash to see if she liked it, and now SHE will run one mg per day of Epitalon for twenty days every three months until SHE is dead or someone makes HER stop.
I am feeling miserly about my hoard of it (I currently have 9 vials of 7.5 mg after I send her enough to keep her good for a second cycle) and 2 kits coming from a GB. Now I have to find HER a source too, so that's a whole thing.
TooBigtoFail
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I do 1mg/day, 2X10mg vials, good for about 22-24 days, depending on overfill. I do that cycle 3-4 times a year. First few cycles were 0.5mg/day (coupled with TA1). I used it with Tirz and Reta. I always sleep 8-9hrs/day, with or without Epi, so cannot comment as a sleep aid.
NBA_MiddleAgedGirl
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Could you talk to me about the benefits of Semax? I'm also a little nervous about squirting something other than Flonase up my nose, LOL. I'm dealing with brain fog, overwhelm, and chronic fatigue (Female, 40s), and am looking for something to help. My job is mentally high-pressure. I'd be stacking with Tirz. Thanks!Chili777 said:
ETA: Oh, how'd you find your perfect dose?
Besides the length of the run did you notice a difference between IN and Subq?Chili777 said:
I finally made my first 2 nasal sprays today(NA Selank and NA Semax) and I'm now considering the others I could try like Epitalon, DSIP, Pinealon and Adamax.
Of course. The first thing I did was research Semax by reading here: https://pep-pedia.org/peptides/semaxNBA_MiddleAgedGirl said:
Notice if you do another search on Semax, you'll find it and two other derivatives of it. Compare them and see what the offer. Because of my history I tried 500 mcg per spray first for a 1 mg dosage. It ended up being the correct one. And, as a nasal spray, if it too strong, just add more saline and you're good to go.
Semax helps me focus, cleared my COVID brain fog, and helps me remember names and technical terms that I need in my job.
You sound like me a year ago, so you might consider a cycle of Epitalon first, as I did. I made sprays for both of them. Epitalon to me is like tuning up the engine and Semax is like stepping on the gas. You do one before the other. How I made them, and what I used is in the link below.
Post in thread 'Selank + Semax--nasal? Effects?' [archived internal link]
NBA_MiddleAgedGirl
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OMG, thank you so much for this! I really appreciate it. If a year ago your brain was like mine, I'm so happy you found something that works for you. I'm almost desperate. This has been such a helpful post. I'll do my research, look through your previous post, and start with Epitalon before adding Semax. I appreciate your response so much.Chili777 said:
PinKushn said:
IN is near instant onset compared to SQ and it intensifies rapidly. Both methods last about the same time, 3-4 hours, the NA versions last another hour or so.
Adamax duration is 8-10 hours with just 300 mcg SQ, so I would be careful with Adamax via IN. I would start slow, maybe 100 mcg total, and go from there. With the quick onset via IN, I'd feel like I strapped into a rocketship at 300 mcg. This is especially true if you know your Adamax has the Adamantane chain (1032 Da) vs. the Adamax backbone (984 Da).
You're very welcome. One thing I should have added is that I didn't filter my very first spray, but I do now. The sinus mucosa has robust defenses, considering what we're exposed to on a daily basis, but I filter everything now. If you have any concerns about your peptides at all, it's another step we can take in the name of harm reduction.NBA_MiddleAgedGirl said:
NBA_MiddleAgedGirl
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Appreciate it. I finished reading the thread you posted and caught that. I planned to filter, just because I'm in my head about everything anyway. It's one, inexpensive step to reduce harm...might as well. Thank you!Chili777 said:
Lovedog100
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10mg a day with a ml of water sounds insane to me. Also really expensive if you aren't sourcing from China.Romulusguy said:
DragonOfTheSea
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So I have some Epithalon on the way, one of a few efforts to try and help my wife start to sleep again- been total garbage for her for the last 3 months.
Planning on starting her @ .5mg SQ and work up to 1mg (perhaps on a subsequent cycle) for 20(ish) days on, 4x/year. Then alternately cycling DISP+CJC+IPA during the “off” cycles.
Does this sound solid? These peps are a new space for me.
Planning on starting her @ .5mg SQ and work up to 1mg (perhaps on a subsequent cycle) for 20(ish) days on, 4x/year. Then alternately cycling DISP+CJC+IPA during the “off” cycles.
Does this sound solid? These peps are a new space for me.
By DISP do you mean DSIP? Pep-pedia says they are synergistic, so that should work.DragonOfTheSea said:
DSIP - Dosing, Side Effects, Stacking & Research | Pep-Pedia
DSIP (Delta Sleep-Inducing Peptide) is a naturally occurring nonapeptide (Trp-Ala-Gly-Gly-Asp-Ala-Ser-Gly-Glu) discovered in 1974 in rabbit brain. Originally...
pep-pedia.org
I have heard, anecdotally, that some people with chronic insomnia have an inverse reaction to Epitalon taken just before bed and it keeps them up, so you may want to experiment with morning vs. late evening. With DSIP, that may not be an issue. I haven't researched the other two, so I can't comment on the combination.
Shutterdrive
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I do 250-500 mcg of epithalon. Cycling it for a month.vale113 said:
DragonOfTheSea
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Yeah, DSIP, my bad. And yes I’ve heard of the inverse effect, however the sleep issues aren’t insomnia based, they’re a GLP use side unfortunately.Chili777 said:
The “sleep optimization stack” actually includes all of the peps I mentioned- DSIP+CJC1295+IPA+EPI. However due to the short cycle of the EPI, and the longer cycle-ability of the others, alternating them seems logical.
OK, in that case I've had the same issue. I do sleep better when running epitalon and I can avoid the dreaded 3 am wakeup call. When I'm not cycling it, I've found that Selank (1 mg SQ) has a calming effect and also allows me to sleep well. I usually pin 2 hours before bed. I have noticed I need to go 3 weeks on/1 week off for it to maintain the same effect.DragonOfTheSea said:
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