End of the vial issue.

[eidos]

The problem stems from the amount of water used for reconstitution and the accuracy of the syringe.

For example, if you use 3 ml for 10 doses of 0.3 ml, and you end up with 0.02 ml (2 units) left over, that amounts to a 6-7% loss on the dose. In your case, the loss is closer to 20%. That’s why lab pens often have 0.6 ml per dose, it’s more precise.

3 or 5ml syringes are harder to read than 1ml syringes. When I use only a small amount of water (0.5 to 1.2 ml), I use an insulin syringe.

In short, dilute more and use the syringe size closest to the volume you need for reconstitution.

You'll have to find your sweet spot between ease of reconstitution and the volume you want to inject. For 10 units, I use pens. I just received a Gansulin: it's my new favorite toy

 

[BNLFL]

In short, dilute more and use the syringe size closest to the volume you need for reconstitution.

The problem stems from the amount of water used for reconstitution and the accuracy of the syringe.

Both wrong.

 

[eidos]

Both wrong.

At least explain why.

 

[Twowheelr2]

Today was finishing Reta vial. Had exact amount of liquid inside which was 0.1ml. The problem was I couldn't draw all the liquid, and eventually syringe was able to get 0.08ml only. At first thought it might be just all what's left, due to some loss while taking the previous doses, but have seen there is still that few missing drops in the vial, but couldn't reach them by the syringe. Do you have any efficient method to suck up all the leftovers from the ending vial?

You can use a mixing syringe with a 1 1/2 inch needle. That will reach the bottom of the vial and you can draw everything out.

 

[BNLFL]

At least explain why.

Why are you changing the original recon amount of BAC? Most of us don't use 3ml or 5ml syringes. My Easy Touch syringes for .05 and 1ml depeding on the shot size and barely lose anything, I've checked, they hardly hold anything. I do BAC purge after filtering. Just my opinion.

 

[eidos]

As I said, generally I use a 1ml syringe for reconstitution. I’m not talking about injections. My point is that 3ml syringes aren’t precise enough for adding the BAC to the vial if one wants 1 ml or more.

What I'm comparing is a 1 ml reconstitution to make 10 doses x 10 units versus a 3 ml reconstitution to make 10 doses x 30 units. Since the concentration is lower in the second case, the volume lost remains the same, but the amount lost is three times less.

 

[BNLFL]

Well, that's your call. I use 3 and 5ml for that, as I recon from R24 to R60. I have some R140 coming, and that'll be the 5ml. Even a R30, I add 3ml BAC and use the 5ml, as that 3 ml is full. Filtering is another animal. What size vial mg are you mixing?

 

[DidntMakeBrownies]

If you are that concerned with the few pennies in there and dont want to take a little from your next vial, put another .2 ml of BAC in, and will extract 95 percent of what you can’t get out.

Would you put one syringe into two vials or do two separate pins?

 

[eidos]

Well, that's your call. I use 3 and 5ml for that, as I recon from R24 to R60. I have some R140 coming, and that'll be the 5ml. Even a R30, I add 3ml BAC and use the 5ml, as that 3 ml is full. Filtering is another animal. What size vial mg are you mixing?

For the R20, I now use 0.6 ml of BAC, which I transfer to a vial for an injection pen. This allows me to limit each dose to 0.3 ml (so 10mg). I don't like to inject too much BA. Reta dissolves easily up to 80 mg/ml, which leaves some margin.

 

[Gt3294a]

Would you put one syringe into two vials or do two separate pins?

I would do one syringe (and have). But now people are going to say I’m sloppy.

 

[DidntMakeBrownies]

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I would do one syringe (and have). But now people are going to say I’m sloppy.

I feel like sanitation wise it would be okay to do new vial then old, but then getting the amount right would be hard. Poking the old vial then the new one sort of seems….?

 

[Gt3294a]

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I feel like sanitation wise it would be okay to do new vial then old, but then getting the amount right would be hard. Poking the old vial then the new one sort of seems….?

No measurement problem to me. It does dull the needle a bit. Not too bad with an insulin needle. But that’s why I use a different draw needle than injection needle for higher gauge oil needles

 

[randompersonrandom]

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I feel like sanitation wise it would be okay to do new vial then old, but then getting the amount right would be hard. Poking the old vial then the new one sort of seems….?

This is why it's better to do two pins. Pull what there is to pull from the old syringe, note the units. Pin. Fresh syringe, pull the rest of the dose from new. Pin. Go about your day.

There's no circumstance where I'd pierce a new vial with a needle that had been inside an old vial. Syringes are cheap and I'm not broke. I already saved all the money by buying grey market peps from drug dealers and playing pretend-pharmacist at home; I try to make sure I limit my risk EVERYWHERE else but there.