Eloralintide is hard to test.

[Smiter]

why ppl buy new iPhones every year

Hey... don't add me to the bleaters who use Apple products. The day I did my MBA in 2010, I swore to never become a patron of Apple. I am a firm believer in "An Apple any day keeps wisdom away".

But why get a new shiny toy that's defective and/or bunk?

Never do it. But why did you assume Elora is defective? Everything I have heard reeks of the opposite. Now, bunk I grant you, is an ongoing source of panic for me.

I don't get the excitement when there are better, more feasible alternatives at the moment.

But are there better ones? Feasible, for sure.

The next best thing is not grey source bunk Elora lmao. Not at the moment.

Which one would you place in that spot? I was looking at this Alex Tatem video. He puts retatrutide in that level, predicting that it will be a trillion-dollar item.

 

[TazaTaza]

Hey... don't add me to the bleaters who use Apple products. The day I did my MBA in 2010, I swore to never become a patron of Apple. I am a firm believer in "An Apple any day keeps wisdom away".

Never do it. But why did you assume Elora is defective? Everything I have heard reeks of the opposite. Now, bunk I grant you, is an ongoing source of panic for me.

But are there better ones? Feasible, for sure.

Which one would you place in that spot? I was looking at this Alex Tatem video. He puts retatrutide in that level, predicting that it will be a trillion-dollar item.

The next best thing is allegedly R currently (I still rank Tz above it), and whatever next gen GLP they're trying to develop. I don't think an appetite suppressant will ever take the top spot over any GLP including Tz, R and even Sema.

The Elora in the current grey market is not reliable. If it doesn't have the ring chemistry down or the methylene bridge instead of the di-SS bond it doesn't have a long half-life which was the point of EL developing Elora. It's a more complex pep in structure

But to be pedantic, the next best thing to y'all is L*lly's Elora not the Elora from grey. If they can't test for it or verify it, then what are you really taking? At that point it's placebo/filler water.

 

[Smiter]

But to be pedantic, the next best thing to y'all is L*lly's Elora not the Elora from grey. If they can't test for it or verify it, then what are you really taking? At that point it's placebo/filler water.

Chapeau! I agree.

 

[gusterbuster]

The next best thing is allegedly R currently (I still rank Tz above it), and whatever next gen GLP they're trying to develop. I don't think an appetite suppressant will ever take the top spot over any GLP including Tz, R and even Sema.

The Elora in the current grey market is not reliable. If it doesn't have the ring chemistry down or the methylene bridge instead of the di-SS bond it doesn't have a long half-life which was the point of EL developing Elora. It's a more complex pep in structure

But to be pedantic, the next best thing to y'all is L*lly's Elora not the Elora from grey. If they can't test for it or verify it, then what are you really taking? At that point it's placebo/filler water.

Ok I'm an idiot as far as this ring chemistry. But if the only downside of Grey messing that up, is a shorter half life, many are more than happy to inject more often.

 

[TazaTaza]

Ok I'm an idiot as far as this ring chemistry. But if the only downside of Grey messing that up, is a shorter half life, many are more than happy to inject more often.

The best case scenario is a shorter half life like for example some ppl can get a batch where it's half of the properly folded Elora and other have is misfolded but inactive (hopefully harmless) Elora.

Other things can go wrong like what if the misfolded Elora is a variant that triggers an immune response? Not all misfolded proteins are benign. A person can develop an immune response, and ironically if they ever try the legit Elora they basically made themselves allergic to Elora and can't take it.

We are focused on the ring, but Elora has other weird things going on with its structure that can be very difficult for chem synthesis. I think in the meantime sources that promise they have Elora is doing so to upcharge a weird blend of Cag+GLP of their choice to mimic suppression which is still dangerous. I would steer clear until the dust settles on proper testing/verification methods.

I'm not well versed in chem synthesis of Elora so I'm sure there is a long list of other things not mentioned that can go wrong or cause adverse reactions.

 

[sheilarae74]

? I want to praise Tz. Mind you Elora is NOT a GLP. Tz is right there. It's mind boggling to me. Y'all keep chasing the something stronger when a GLP already exists w/very high effectiveness and is easily bootleg for this grey space. Everywhere I go everyone is obsessed with suppressing their appetite into an ED.

I personally will always be chasing the easiest way to lose the most weight.

 

[SoCalGirl]

I have not heard of Elora what's it for?

Appetite suppression. Resetting appetite. And weight loss.

 

[Smiter]

I personally will always be chasing the easiest way to lose the most weight.

You tell 'em, Sis. Some mortals scorn Easy, when we're just connoisseurs of scintillating time management.

everyone is obsessed with suppressing their appetite into an ED.

I forgot to ask this yesterday. How would people suppress their hunger into an erectile dysfunction? What sorcery is that, and why would anybody want it? Gluttony harder to deal with than Lust-Fail?

 

[Masil]

I agree, it is hard to test. Just wait till I get my hands on it.

Uther did share a Janoshik test for his current batch. (In the Telegram Group) shall I not believe Janoshik?

 

[yeddie]

Uther did share a Janoshik test for his current batch. (In the Telegram Group) shall I not believe Janoshik?

I'm sure the Janoshik test is legit as far as the usual tests go. The issue with Eloralintide is the unusual structure which might require additional tests to verify its correctness.

My kit from Uther arrives today, so we'll see how it goes...

 

[Masil]

My kit from Uther arrives today, so we'll see how it goes...

looking forward to your experience, are you planning to test / filter etc? - mine will arrive in a few days

 

[Devilseye]

Reta worked for me as designed. I don't need anything else and it gives me complete appetite suppression, so maybe I'm lucky. I worked my way up to 12 mg, did that for a month and reached my goal. I'm now at 10 mg and on the way down. I don't know where I'll end up for maintenance, but it does everything I want.

I originally was super interested in elora when I started. I had to loose >30% BW and thought it was my ticket there combined with tirza. However, a year into weight loss, Im using 15mg tirza with some survo and im basically virtually at target. Now just trimming some more for vanity really.

So no, I dont see the need for elora any longer and its cost prohibitive anyways as tirz and survo are so much cheaper.

Also, while survo/reta offer additional benefit by stimulating lipolysis and removing extra visceral fat, elora is just another appetite suppression tool which will probably synergize with GLP-1s such that you get to target faster with extra potential for total weight loss.

However, I think most people with ~30% BW to loose can get there on max dose of reta or tirz.

 

[Habibibi]

I originally was super interested in elora when I started. I had to loose >30% BW and thought it was my ticket there combined with tirza. However, a year into weight loss, Im using 15mg tirza with some survo and im basically virtually at target. Now just trimming some more for vanity really.

So no, I dont see the need for elora any longer and its cost prohibitive anyways as tirz and survo are so much cheaper.

Also, while survo/reta offer additional benefit by stimulating lipolysis and removing extra visceral fat, elora is just another appetite suppression tool which will probably synergize with GLP-1s such that you get to target faster with extra potential for total weight loss.

However, I think most people with ~30% BW to loose can get there on max dose of reta or tirz.

Not just another appetite suppression tool. Weight loss rivals tirzepatide, half life is closer to 2 weeks, and seems to be better tolerated. You can actually use this one by itself, unlike cagrilintide

 

[Devilseye]

Not just another appetite suppression tool. Weight loss rivals tirzepatide, half life is closer to 2 weeks, and seems to be better tolerated. You can actually use this one by itself, unlike cagrilintide

Agreed. Much more efficacious than cagri for sure. Its not even a close match. I guess my point was strictly personal in terms of my weight loss goals. I suspect elora will find a nice niche market in people that can’t tolerate GLP1s or have a history of thyroid cancer in their family. In either case elora will, like you said, give tirz-like results without the downsides of GLP1s.

 

[Grogu]

I'm sure the Janoshik test is legit as far as the usual tests go. The issue with Eloralintide is the unusual structure which might require additional tests to verify its correctness.

My kit from Uther arrives today, so we'll see how it goes...

Yes, please let us know how it goes.

Peter @ Janoshik says he can do the special test to confirm the structure and it costs $1,800.

The "regular" mass/purity COA that was posted is just that, mass/purity, no confirmation that the ring was properly formed and in the correct location.

 

[Ted R]

Yes, please let us know how it goes.

Peter @ Janoshik says he can do the special test to confirm the structure and it costs $1,800.

The "regular" mass/purity COA that was posted is just that, mass/purity, no confirmation that the ring was properly formed and in the correct location.

Someone on another server got the following price from Janoshik:

For 2x m&p, structure, endo, lcms

2x M&P 1200

Structure 1800

Endo & LC/MS 270

Total = 3270

 

[Grogu]

Someone on another server got the following price from Janoshik:

For 2x m&p, structure, endo, lcms

2x M&P 1200

Structure 1800

Endo & LC/MS 270

Total = 3270

Probably the same or similar server. The quote I saw was the same amount and same tests.

 

[Batscout]

I was ready to give up after a year of Sema and zero results, except being poorer. I like all my new options now. Also, I'm not a purist as I did get some Cagri in case my titration down caused a spike in my appetite. Kind of a "In case of emergency, break glass" back up. I hope not to use it, but we'll see. I'm not going back.

That’s what happened to me, I did add in Cagri for that reason.