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L8lly is funny I know they were excited to discover that it's hard asf to bootleg Elora.

I read Elora has a "methylene thioacetal bridge" bc it's more stable than its di-SS bonds?

I think it's hilarious they're framing it as a testing issue vs an engineering issue. There are established chem techniques to verify ring structure/bridge, the thing is it's expensive + multi-step. Ppl could be taking bunk Elora that is unstable and has a super short half-life defeating the purpose of the pep.

I think it's interesting ppl are this excited over an appetite suppressant?
 
TazaTaza said:
...I think it's interesting ppl are this excited over an appetite suppressant?

Say you don't have appetite problems without saying you don't have weight problems. Bonus points for doing it on a forum named after the most prevalent "appetite suppressant" ever.
 
woundcarping said:
Say you don't have appetite problems without saying you don't have weight problems. Bonus points for doing it on a forum named after the most prevalent "appetite suppressant" ever.
But that's all true. If the ring isn't there, it is just a bunch of aminos with unknown effects. Do you think the average vendor is going to care if it is or not? They're going to say, take it, it will work anyway. This creates another testing issue and the debate about how to properly do that isn't over. There are still a lot of questions that are unanswered.
 
Chili777 said:
But that's all true. If the ring isn't there, it is just a bunch of aminos with unknown effects. Do you think the average vendor is going to care if it is or not? They're going to say, take it, it will work anyway. This creates another testing issue and the debate about how to properly do that isn't over. There are still a lot of questions that are unanswered.

Did you see what I quoted?
 
woundcarping said:
Did you see what I quoted?
Yeah. It could have been said differently, but I took the comment as a whole. I think Elora is for that percentage that haven't responded to GLPs like most people do. I don't know how large that population is.
 
Chili777 said:
Yeah. It could have been said differently, but I took the comment as a whole. I think Elora is for that percentage that haven't responded to GLPs like most people do. I don't know how large that population is.
I've responded very well to GLPs. I've never had any illusions that I'm going to be able to take one and achieve my wildest dreams. I have no desire nor intention to run 12+mg of reta for an extended amount of time. I'd much rather add in something else. It's very foolish to put all of your eggs in one pharmacokinetic basket.
 
birdwhacker said:
I've responded very well to GLPs. I've never had any illusions that I'm going to be able to take one and achieve my wildest dreams. I have no desire nor intention to run 12+mg of reta for an extended amount of time. I'd much rather add in something else. It's very foolish to put all of your eggs in one pharmacokinetic basket.
Reta worked for me as designed. I don't need anything else and it gives me complete appetite suppression, so maybe I'm lucky. I worked my way up to 12 mg, did that for a month and reached my goal. I'm now at 10 mg and on the way down. I don't know where I'll end up for maintenance, but it does everything I want.
 
Chili777 said:
Reta worked for me as designed. I don't need anything else and it gives me complete appetite suppression, so maybe I'm lucky. I worked my way up to 12 mg, did that for a month and reached my goal. I'm now at 10 mg and on the way down. I don't know where I'll end up for maintenance, but it does everything I want.
Awesome! If that works for me, then great. If I need more compounds, also great. I'm just glad that solutions exist now. 4 months ago I was convinced I was going to have to kill myself eventually. That good health wasn't achievable. Now, there are so many paths forward that we get to bicker about them.

That's a big win.
 
birdwhacker said:
Awesome! If that works for me, then great. If I need more compounds, also great. I'm just glad that solutions exist now. 4 months ago I was convinced I was going to have to kill myself eventually. That good health wasn't achievable. Now, there are so many paths forward that we get to bicker about them.

That's a big win.
I was ready to give up after a year of Sema and zero results, except being poorer. I like all my new options now. Also, I'm not a purist as I did get some Cagri in case my titration down caused a spike in my appetite. Kind of a "In case of emergency, break glass" back up. I hope not to use it, but we'll see. I'm not going back.
 
Smiter said:
Hey whacker, long time. How you been?
Pretty good, Smiter. You? Start any new fun ones? Did you order that enclo?

I'm enjoying HCG. Went from cranking my hog every 2-4 days to twice a day complete with morning wood.
 
birdwhacker said:
Did you order that enclo?
Yup..thanks...ordered from kimera and swiss chems.

birdwhacker said:
Went from cranking my hog every 2-4 days to twice a day complete with morning wood.
What a chore, huh? Well, at least you get the extra bouts of post-nut clarity so that's a plus.

birdwhacker said:
Start any new fun ones?
Na...well, not any new consumable, but did start a new exercise which has now become my absolute fav of all time. I'm gonna dream about this shtick...and I dont even dream anymore.
 
Smiter said:
What a chore, huh? Well, at least you get the extra bouts of post-nut clarity so that's a plus.
Nah I don't get any benefits from it. Nasty habit, wish I could put it down.

Smiter said:
Na...well, not any new consumable, but did start a new exercise which has now become my absolute fav of all time.
Well? Don't leave me hanging.

Smiter said:
I'm gonna dream about this shtick...and I dont even dream anymore.
Dream about this shtick any day yt boy 😉
 
birdwhacker said:
Nasty habit, wish I could put it down.
Oh, I so get that...beating the salami for that PNC is addictive AF.

birdwhacker said:
Well? Don't leave me hanging.
I invented it. I have named it the 'Androck curl' after my pseudonym as a writer. It's inspired from the Zottman curl, Poliquin curl, and my own experiences. It trains the brachialis, brachioradialis, the pronator, supinator, but I will have to see how to show it to you. The feeling I got after the workout was insane. I foresee popeye getting envious in the future... I hope to get peak Arsen Liliev forearms
 
woundcarping said:
Say you don't have appetite problems without saying you don't have weight problems. Bonus points for doing it on a forum named after the most prevalent "appetite suppressant" ever.
? I want to praise Tz. Mind you Elora is NOT a GLP. Tz is right there. It's mind boggling to me. Y'all keep chasing the something stronger when a GLP already exists w/very high effectiveness and is easily bootleg for this grey space. Everywhere I go everyone is obsessed with suppressing their appetite into an ED.

ambot88 said:
Where do you think you are?
I'm on a GLP forum which is why I'm confused why are y'all excited over an experimental appetite suppressant that's NOT easily bootleg/testable when Tz is right there w/a lower risk profile and is easily bootleg + testable.

EDIT: My og comment had "T*rz solo will be supreme after the dust settles" but I deleted after weird filtering bc I'm a newbie. My bad y'all but yeah I think Tz solo will probably be the answer in the long-run
 
TazaTaza said:
? I want to praise Tz. Mind you Elora is NOT a GLP. Tz is right there. It's mind boggling to me. Y'all keep chasing the something stronger when a GLP already exists w/very high effectiveness and is easily bootleg for this grey space. Everywhere I go everyone is obsessed with suppressing their appetite into an ED.

I'm on a GLP forum which is why I'm confused why are y'all excited over an experimental appetite suppressant that's NOT easily bootleg/testable when Tz is right there w/a lower risk profile and is easily bootleg + testable.

EDIT: My og comment had "T*rz solo will be supreme after the dust settles" but I deleted after weird filtering bc I'm a newbie. My bad y'all but yeah I think Tz solo will probably be the answer in the long-run
I perceive I need to learn Miamese, but I shall strive to guess the thrust of your verbiage. Why are we excited about the next best thing??? Well, it's the quintessential biohacker's identity. In fact, I would assume that it's precisely that mindset that brought many of us to GLP-1's in the first place when a lot of the world is set against it.

That being the case, it would seem out of character to dispose of that trait, especially knowing that revolutionary med-tech is blazing towards us at warp speed.
 
Smiter said:
I perceive I need to learn Miamese, but I shall strive to guess the thrust of your verbiage. Why are we excited about the next best thing??? Well, it's the quintessential biohacker's identity. In fact, I would assume that it's precisely that mindset that brought many of us to GLP-1's in the first place when a lot of the world is set against it.

That being the case, it would seem out of character to dispose of that trait, especially knowing that revolutionary med-tech is blazing towards us at warp speed.
There is Cag and there is Tz. If you want to go old-school, we even got caffeine/various stimulants.

Everyone keeps dancing around the elephant in the room. The whole post/convo thread is about how Elora is hard to test/verify. Of course ppl want the next best thing that's why ppl buy new iPhones every year. New shiny toy.

But why get a new shiny toy that's defective and/or bunk? I don't get the excitement when there are better, more feasible alternatives at the moment.

The next best thing is not grey source bunk Elora lmao. Not at the moment.
 
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