堆叠 Tirz & Reta & CJC/IPA

[肽堆叠器]

Interested in what motivated you to stack?

They act differently, I wanted a little bit of both Tirz appetite suppression and Reta fat loss, and muscle preservation. It’s worked like a charm for me. My own “research” told me they would be synergistic for me.

 

[FlowerFairy]

Thanks,

Why run them separately, my reseach shows that they worked extremely well in a blend where as other things worked well taken together but not in a Blend (BPC157/TB).

Because as he said, IPA maxes out at 150-200mcg. He plans to create his own blend instead of using more IPA than his body can use.

 

[kittenkat2025]

Yeah I’ve been a a short sleeper my adult life, so this is new for me to get the recommended amount.

That's awesome for you another win for cjc/ipa.

I found my test subject didn't get the same quality of sleep on tesa alone. And also found cjc/ipa is cheaper than the sleep medication my doctor prescribed on a monthly basis, even with insurance.

 

[Camlbacker]

I haven't tried Tesa by itself, but I get much better sleep with Tesa/Ipa than I do without it.

 

[Speak_Easy]

My first post out of the sandbox!!

52M and I let a lot of injuries and lazines push my weight from 195 - 240 since 2020. I see that there is another post about stacking but I wanted to go into more details and chart some progress for anyone who is interested. My goal is to reduce weight to 190 and then recomp back up to 200.

I begin this new journey with 1 week of clean whole food eating just to prove to myself that I could formulate a nutrition plan, that the GLp1s would just be a tool and I would be doing the heaving lifting. The week of Nov 9th I meal prepped and ate 1400 calories a day, with each meal being protein forward. For the sake of tracking I called this week 0. Let me give my chart.

Week 0 (11/9): 238

Week 1 (11/16): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 2.5 - Weight 234.8

Week 2 (11/23): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 2.5 - Weight 227.5

Week 3 (11/30): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 3.0 - Weight 225.4

Week 4 (12/07): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 1.5 - Weight 222.1

Week 5 (12/14): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 1.5 - Weight 218.7

Week 6 (12/21): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 216.3

Week 7 (12/28): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 7.5 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 213.6

Week 8 (01/04): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 7.5 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 210.6

Week 9 (01/11): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 2.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F - Weight 208.4

Planned Titration:

Week 10 (11/18): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 11 (11/25): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 12 (02/01): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 13 (02/08): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 14 (02/15): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 15 (02/22): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Negatives:

* Week 2: Constipation, almost nothing moved for 8 days.

* Weeks 7 and 8: had severe diarrhea for 48 hours 24hrs after taking Tirz (like I could not leave 5 feet away from the bathroom, thank goodness for my bidet)

* I get a very weak headache that lasts until midday the day after taking Reta

* Decreased libido, Test came back normal for my age but I know there is a difference that I can pinpoint to the time I've been pinning myself.

Positives:

* no nausea

* no food noise (though I never had it prior)

* killed my desire to have a night cap or drink socially

Interesting:

* still getting normal hunger but nothing that is driving me to eat. This has only been occuring since week 8.

* energy is much higher now

* sleep improved slightly

* I sometimes feel a lack of motivation to get things done and have to focus on snapping out of it.

Final Thoughts:

I have not had and severe complications from stacking the two GLP1s, I actually think they are working synergically together. I know that my body does not like me going above 5 Tirz (I may be a super responder to it) but has had not problem tolerating Reta. If you're on the fence (BTW I'm not a doctor or a researcher other than conducting my own research) try it but don't jump in the deep in right away.

Go ahead and ask me any question you want.

I had severe GI issues at the beginning of using Tirz, very little when I switched to Reta, and now I get acid indigestion for 24 hours after I dose Reta (4mg), but I think it’s bc I’ve been titrating up slowly and maybe when I level off the acid will subside. If not, it’s a small price to pay, being down 20lbs and feeling good 98% of the time.

 

[肽堆叠器]

Update: it was a a challenging week. As I’m moving towards my goal and transitioning to recomp the scale has slowed down.

Negative: Major setback was on Thursday/Friday. I went out to dinner and had a burger and fries. Like 3 oz of fries and only the bottom bun. Well the bread food got me, Thursday the sulfur burps were awful and Friday the poops would not let me sleep. Lesson learned, some foods have to be off limits right now.

Positive I am only 8 pounds from my goal weight!

Dosing: Tirz 5mg/Reta 3mg, BPC/Tb 250mcg, CJC/IPA 300mcg.

 

[肽堆叠器]

Update time. Getting closer and now I’m sure that I want to go lower than my goal of 190, I love the progress but instill dont have the look I want.

 

[theoretical_maximum]

It often works like that, the closer you get to your goal the further away it still seems. Huge progress, though! Have you gotten a DEXA before? It might give you an idea of what your goal actually is. Or, just keep going until you're happy.

 

[肽堆叠器]

New Update:

Found out that my body does not like supplemental fiber (Optifiber), it causes severe GI problems for me.

THIS IS SO MADDENINING, to be this close to my goal of 192 and I am ping-ponging between 192 and 194 for the past 10 days.

Dosing is still 5mg Tirz/= & 2mg Reta.

I know it's going to happen but man I wanted it before March hit. Now I'm hoping before April hits.

 

[肽堆叠器]

一段旅程已经结束，现在准备开启另一段旅程。我的减脂期结束了。

接下来四周是维持期，我会反向节食，恢复到每日总能量消耗（TDEE），然后开始增肌，每天摄入300卡路里以上。

那么我做得怎么样呢？我最终的减脂体重是188磅。

我六周前开始使用生长激素（HGH），三周前开始使用胰岛素样生长因子-1LR3（IGF-01LR3）。祝愿你们的旅程一切顺利！

 

[Galapagosfit]

下次我会分开购买，因为我想更精确地控制剂量。我的目标是 CJC1295 用量在 1 毫克左右，丙酸用量在 100-150 毫克之间。我上次找到的混合装（至少当时是这样）都是 1:1 的比例，这样丙酸的含量就太高了，达不到我想要的 CJC 剂量。

我在网上看到好几个地方都说，治疗慢性关节囊肿（CJC）的最大有效剂量是100微克，而伊帕瑞林在200-300微克时达到饱和。你想要的1毫克剂量似乎太高了。

 

[oldjarhead]

一段旅程已经结束，现在准备开启另一段旅程。我的减脂期结束了。

接下来四周是维持期，我会反向节食，恢复到每日总能量消耗（TDEE），然后开始增肌，每天摄入300卡路里以上。

那么我做得怎么样呢？我最终的减脂体重是188磅。

我六周前开始使用生长激素（HGH），三周前开始使用胰岛素样生长因子-1LR3（IGF-01LR3）。祝愿你们的旅程一切顺利！

非常感谢您提供的所有信息，也很喜欢阅读您关于剂量和进展的分享。我考虑将来在我的Tirz复方制剂中加入Reta。目前我正在尽可能多地学习相关知识。再次感谢！

 

[Kadeeglp123]

My first post out of the sandbox!!

52M and I let a lot of injuries and lazines push my weight from 195 - 240 since 2020. I see that there is another post about stacking but I wanted to go into more details and chart some progress for anyone who is interested. My goal is to reduce weight to 190 and then recomp back up to 200.

I begin this new journey with 1 week of clean whole food eating just to prove to myself that I could formulate a nutrition plan, that the GLp1s would just be a tool and I would be doing the heaving lifting. The week of Nov 9th I meal prepped and ate 1400 calories a day, with each meal being protein forward. For the sake of tracking I called this week 0. Let me give my chart.

Week 0 (11/9): 238

Week 1 (11/16): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 2.5 - Weight 234.8

Week 2 (11/23): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 2.5 - Weight 227.5

Week 3 (11/30): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 3.0 - Weight 225.4

Week 4 (12/07): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 1.5 - Weight 222.1

Week 5 (12/14): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 1.5 - Weight 218.7

Week 6 (12/21): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 216.3

Week 7 (12/28): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 7.5 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 213.6

Week 8 (01/04): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 7.5 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 210.6

Week 9 (01/11): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 2.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F - Weight 208.4

Planned Titration:

Week 10 (11/18): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 11 (11/25): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 12 (02/01): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 13 (02/08): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 14 (02/15): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 15 (02/22): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Negatives:

* Week 2: Constipation, almost nothing moved for 8 days.

* Weeks 7 and 8: had severe diarrhea for 48 hours 24hrs after taking Tirz (like I could not leave 5 feet away from the bathroom, thank goodness for my bidet)

* I get a very weak headache that lasts until midday the day after taking Reta

* Decreased libido, Test came back normal for my age but I know there is a difference that I can pinpoint to the time I've been pinning myself.

Positives:

* no nausea

* no food noise (though I never had it prior)

* killed my desire to have a night cap or drink socially

Interesting:

* still getting normal hunger but nothing that is driving me to eat. This has only been occuring since week 8.

* energy is much higher now

*睡眠略有改善

* 我有时会感到缺乏动力去做事，需要集中精力才能摆脱这种状态。

最后总结：

我同时服用两种GLP-1受体激动剂后没有出现任何严重的并发症，实际上我认为它们之间存在协同作用。我知道我的身体不喜欢Tirz剂量超过5毫克（我可能对它反应特别强烈），但对Reta的耐受性很好。如果你还在犹豫（顺便说一句，我不是医生或研究人员，只是在做自己的研究），可以尝试一下，但不要马上大量服用。

欢迎随时向我提问。

我一直在琢磨这个问题，很高兴看到这个帖子。我一直在练Tirz，Reta的成绩接近15分，体重也减轻了5磅左右。我把Reta的成绩提高到更低，还借鉴了你的说法，终于奏效了！谢谢分享！

 

[fatjacked]

非常感谢这个帖子——我服用Tirz已经4个月了，效果不错，正在考虑加用Reta。我一直想尽量减少肌肉流失，感觉加低剂量的Reta而不是增加Tirz可能是个好办法。不过我有点担心心率方面的副作用。我可能会先试试CJC/IPA一段时间，看看效果如何。

 

[肽堆叠器]

非常感谢这个帖子——我服用Tirz已经4个月了，效果不错，正在考虑加用Reta。我一直想尽量减少肌肉流失，感觉加低剂量的Reta而不是增加Tirz可能是个好办法。不过我有点担心心率方面的副作用。我可能会先试试CJC/IPA一段时间，看看效果如何。

我仔细研究过这个组合，发现它效果显著。我的建议是，最好只选择一种组合添加进去，然后连续使用三周，观察效果，​​否则你很难真正了解它的作用。