堆叠 Tirz & Reta & CJC/IPA

[肽堆叠器]

这是我的第一篇帖子！

我今年52岁，男，自2020年以来，由于伤病和懒惰，我的体重从195磅飙升到了240磅。我知道之前也有人发过关于增肌减脂的帖子，但我还是想更详细地分享一下我的进展，希望能帮到感兴趣的人。我的目标是减重到190磅，然后再增重到200磅。

为了证明自己能够制定营养计划，GLp1蛋白粉只是辅助工具，真正需要我付出努力的是自己，所以我决定先用一周的时间坚持健康饮食。11月9日那周，我提前准备好了饭菜，每天摄入1400卡路里，每餐都以蛋白质为主。为了方便记录，我把这周记为第0周。下面是我的进度表。

第0周（11月9日）：体重238；

第1周（11月16日）：复方Tirz/L-Car剂量2.5 - 体重234.8；
第2周（11月23日）：复方Tirz/L-Car

剂量2.5 - 体重227.5；
第3周（11月30日）：复方Tirz/L-Car剂量3.0 - 体重225.4；第4周（12月7日）：复方Tirz/L-Car剂量5.0和Reta剂量1.5 - 体重222.1；
第5周（12月14日）：复方Tirz/L-Car剂量5.0和Reta剂量1.5 - 体重218.7；
第6周（12月21日）：复方Tirz/L-Car剂量5.0和Reta剂量2.0 - 体重216.3；
第7周（12/28）：复方Tirz/L-Car剂量7.5和Reta剂量2.0 - 体重213.6；
第8周（01/04）：复方Tirz/L-Car剂量7.5和Reta剂量2.0 - 体重210.6；
第9周（01/11）：复方Tirz/L-Car剂量5.0、Reta剂量2.0和CJC/IPA剂量250微克MF - 体重208.4； 计划剂量调整：
第10周（11/18）：Tirz 5.0、Reta剂量3.0和CJC/IPA剂量250微克MF；
第11周（11/25）：Tirz 5.0、Reta剂量3.0和CJC/IPA剂量250微克MF；
第12周（02/01）：Tirz 5.0 & Reta 剂量 3.0 & CJC/IPA 剂量 250mcg MF
第 13 周（02/08）：Tirz 5.0 & Reta 剂量 3.0 & CJC/IPA 剂量 250mcg MF
第 14 周（02/15）：Tirz 5.0 & Reta 剂量 3.0 & CJC/IPA 剂量 250mcg MF
第 15 周（02/22）：Tirz 5.0 & Reta 剂量 3.0 & CJC/IPA 剂量 250mcg MF 不良反应：
* 第 2 周：便秘，几乎 8 天没有排便。
* 第7周和第8周：服用Tirz后24小时内出现严重腹泻，持续48小时（感觉离卫生间5英尺都走不动，幸好有坐浴盆）。
* 服用Reta后第二天出现轻微头痛，持续到中午。
* 性欲下降，睾酮水平在我这个年龄段属于正常范围，但我知道这与我自慰的这段时间有所不同。 积极方面：
* 没有恶心。
* 没有进食时的咕噜声（虽然我以前从未有过）。
* 完全没有睡前小酌或社交饮酒的欲望。 有趣的是：
* 仍然有正常的饥饿感，但没有任何强烈的进食欲望。这种情况从第8周开始出现。
现在的能量要高得多。

*睡眠略有改善

* 我有时会感到缺乏动力去做事，需要集中精力才能摆脱这种状态。

最后总结：

我同时服用两种GLP-1受体激动剂后没有出现任何严重的并发症，实际上我认为它们之间存在协同作用。我知道我的身体不喜欢Tirz剂量超过5毫克（我可能对它反应特别强烈），但对Reta的耐受性很好。如果你还在犹豫（顺便说一句，我不是医生或研究人员，只是在做自己的研究），可以尝试一下，但不要马上大量服用。

欢迎随时向我提问。

 

[Glenn]

便秘一周，腹泻两天，在我看来算是严重的并发症。看来你剂量增加得太快了。不过情况可能会更糟。我花了整整一年才把Tirz的剂量增加到10毫克，现在我把Tirz和2毫克的Reta一起服用，效果不错。看来你的目标体重指日可待了。

 

[肽堆叠器]

便秘一周，腹泻两天，在我看来算是严重的并发症。看来你剂量增加得太快了。不过情况可能会更糟。我花了整整一年才把Tirz的剂量增加到10毫克，现在我把Tirz和2毫克的Reta一起服用，效果不错。看来你的目标体重指日可待了。

便秘是在我注射第二针之后出现的，那不是剂量调整的问题——我的身体还在适应。医生建议我把剂量增加到7.5毫克，但我后来又减回了5毫克，尽管医生说这种情况最终会自行好转。我没有出现其他问题（并发症）。

不过，这两种情况都不算严重，而且都是药物已知的副作用。

 

[肽堆叠器]

My first post out of the sandbox!!

52M and I let a lot of injuries and lazines push my weight from 195 - 240 since 2020. I see that there is another post about stacking but I wanted to go into more details and chart some progress for anyone who is interested. My goal is to reduce weight to 190 and then recomp back up to 200.

I begin this new journey with 1 week of clean whole food eating just to prove to myself that I could formulate a nutrition plan, that the GLp1s would just be a tool and I would be doing the heaving lifting. The week of Nov 9th I meal prepped and ate 1400 calories a day, with each meal being protein forward. For the sake of tracking I called this week 0. Let me give my chart.

Week 0 (11/9): 238

Week 1 (11/16): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 2.5 - Weight 234.8

Week 2 (11/23): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 2.5 - Weight 227.5

Week 3 (11/30): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 3.0 - Weight 225.4

Week 4 (12/07): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 1.5 - Weight 222.1

Week 5 (12/14): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 1.5 - Weight 218.7

Week 6 (12/21): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 216.3

Week 7 (12/28): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 7.5 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 213.6

Week 8 (01/04): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 7.5 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 210.6

Week 9 (01/11): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 2.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F - Weight 208.4

Planned Titration:

Week 10 (11/18): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 11 (11/25): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 12 (02/01): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 13 (02/08): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 14 (02/15): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 15 (02/22): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Negatives:

* Week 2: Constipation, almost nothing moved for 8 days.

* Weeks 7 and 8: had severe diarrhea for 48 hours 24hrs after taking Tirz (like I could not leave 5 feet away from the bathroom, thank goodness for my bidet)

* I get a very weak headache that lasts until midday the day after taking Reta

* Decreased libido, Test came back normal for my age but I know there is a difference that I can pinpoint to the time I've been pinning myself.

Positives:

* no nausea

* no food noise (though I never had it prior)

* killed my desire to have a night cap or drink socially

Interesting:

* still getting normal hunger but nothing that is driving me to eat. This has only been occuring since week 8.

* energy is much higher now

* sleep improved slightly

* I sometimes feel a lack of motivation to get things done and have to focus on snapping out of it.

Final Thoughts:

I have not had and severe complications from stacking the two GLP1s, I actually think they are working synergically together. I know that my body does not like me going above 5 Tirz (I may be a super responder to it) but has had not problem tolerating Reta. If you're on the fence (BTW I'm not a doctor or a researcher other than conducting my own research) try it but don't jump in the deep in right away.

Go ahead and ask me any question you want.

Update:

Week 10 (01/18): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 - Weight 205.5

Week 11 (01/25): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & - Weight 202.4

Positives:

* no nausea

* no food noise (though I never had it prior)

* killed my desire to have a night cap or drink socially

* energy levels have stayed high, not impacting workout

Workout:

I've learned how to maximize my workout:

M,T,Th,Fri = 12mins Row, 30 mins treadmill 12incl/4mph, 12 mins stairmaster (lvl 10)

M/W/Sat - PPL

Sunday full rest day

Future and planning for maintance:

Should hit goal weight end of February. Will start on CJC/IPA, HGH, and IGF-1f as I recomp.

I have 300mg of Tirz and 600mg of Reta in the box. I plan to use 2-3mg of Reta weekly during maint.

 

[thatkatmat]

Wow, thanks for the detailed info. I'm 59 years old, I've been on compounded Tirz for 12 weeks and am down 43 lbs (240-197, I think 5-7 lbs of that was water). I just bought a few kits of Reta and plan on doing a similar routine.

I'm doing 6mg's of Tirz a week and started Cagri 2 weeks ago to help with the food noise (not sure I dig the Cagri, it's working but it feels like there's a lump in my gut). I actually haven't lost much muscle either which, I think is do to my high protein and water intake along with my resistance training. The reason I want to add reta is to give me more energy and help with body recon. The Tirz kinda keeps me low energy which is out of character for me.

Does the Reta help get you off the couch?

 

[PopTart]

I begin this new journey with 1 week of clean whole food eating just to prove to myself that I could formulate a nutrition plan, that the GLp1s would just be a tool and I would be doing the heaving lifting.

This is the key to lasting success. My appetite suppression is not what it once was when I started on Tirz 18 months ago and the food noise is up a bit. I have 15 lbs to go to hit goal. My weight has been on a very slight decline the last 6 months (1 lb per month). I have decreased my tirz dose a bit and am placing much more emphasis on lasting habits. I still indulge on pizza and ice cream but can get back on program easily.

 

[肽堆叠器]

Wow, thanks for the detailed info. I'm 59 years old, I've been on compounded Tirz for 12 weeks and am down 43 lbs (240-197, I think 5-7 lbs of that was water). I just bought a few kits of Reta and plan on doing a similar routine.

I'm doing 6mg's of Tirz a week and started Cagri 2 weeks ago to help with the food noise (not sure I dig the Cagri, it's working but it feels like there's a lump in my gut). I actually haven't lost much muscle either which, I think is do to my high protein and water intake along with my resistance training. The reason I want to add reta is to give me more energy and help with body recon. The Tirz kinda keeps me low energy which is out of character for me.

Does the Reta help get you off the couch?

Wow, thanks for the detailed info. I'm 59 years old, I've been on compounded Tirz for 12 weeks and am down 43 lbs (240-197, I think 5-7 lbs of that was water). I just bought a few kits of Reta and plan on doing a similar routine.

I'm doing 6mg's of Tirz a week and started Cagri 2 weeks ago to help with the food noise (not sure I dig the Cagri, it's working but it feels like there's a lump in my gut). I actually haven't lost much muscle either which, I think is do to my high protein and water intake along with my resistance training. The reason I want to add reta is to give me more energy and help with body recon. The Tirz kinda keeps me low energy which is out of character for me.

Does the Reta help get you off the couch?

I'm unsure if it is the Reta but I'm highly motivated and make sure that I am sticking to a routine that I can follow on/off GLP1 drugs.

My normal day is approx 1400 calories, 190 - 200 protein. I wish I could get more calories but I eat until full and this is just where I land.

 

[肽堆叠器]

My first post out of the sandbox!!

52M and I let a lot of injuries and lazines push my weight from 195 - 240 since 2020. I see that there is another post about stacking but I wanted to go into more details and chart some progress for anyone who is interested. My goal is to reduce weight to 190 and then recomp back up to 200.

I begin this new journey with 1 week of clean whole food eating just to prove to myself that I could formulate a nutrition plan, that the GLp1s would just be a tool and I would be doing the heaving lifting. The week of Nov 9th I meal prepped and ate 1400 calories a day, with each meal being protein forward. For the sake of tracking I called this week 0. Let me give my chart.

Week 0 (11/9): 238

Week 1 (11/16): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 2.5 - Weight 234.8

Week 2 (11/23): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 2.5 - Weight 227.5

Week 3 (11/30): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 3.0 - Weight 225.4

Week 4 (12/07): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 1.5 - Weight 222.1

Week 5 (12/14): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 1.5 - Weight 218.7

Week 6 (12/21): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 216.3

Week 7 (12/28): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 7.5 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 213.6

Week 8 (01/04): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 7.5 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 210.6

Week 9 (01/11): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 2.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F - Weight 208.4

Planned Titration:

Week 10 (11/18): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 11 (11/25): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 12 (02/01): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 13 (02/08): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 14 (02/15): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 15 (02/22): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Negatives:

* Week 2: Constipation, almost nothing moved for 8 days.

* Weeks 7 and 8: had severe diarrhea for 48 hours 24hrs after taking Tirz (like I could not leave 5 feet away from the bathroom, thank goodness for my bidet)

* I get a very weak headache that lasts until midday the day after taking Reta

* Decreased libido, Test came back normal for my age but I know there is a difference that I can pinpoint to the time I've been pinning myself.

Positives:

* no nausea

* no food noise (though I never had it prior)

* killed my desire to have a night cap or drink socially

Interesting:

* still getting normal hunger but nothing that is driving me to eat. This has only been occuring since week 8.

* energy is much higher now

* sleep improved slightly

* I sometimes feel a lack of motivation to get things done and have to focus on snapping out of it.

Final Thoughts:

I have not had and severe complications from stacking the two GLP1s, I actually think they are working synergically together. I know that my body does not like me going above 5 Tirz (I may be a super responder to it) but has had not problem tolerating Reta. If you're on the fence (BTW I'm not a doctor or a researcher other than conducting my own research) try it but don't jump in the deep in right away.

Go ahead and ask me any question you want.

Update photo.

Stacking began Dec 1st

 

[MFGamesta]

Similar story here. 60 male, 6'0", sw 202, cw 172. 600mcg of cjc/ipa evenings and glow daily.

Lost all the weight on 2.5 Zepbound in 12 weeks then plateaued at ~172 which was my goal. I had a couple of weeks of severe constipation followed by severe diarrhea. It's part of the process.

Switched cold turkey to 2mg retatrutide 3 weeks ago so both are still in my system. I'm pretty much only on maintenance trying to get my body fat down while adding muscle back.

I would not titrate up if I was still losing weight like you are. Wait until you start to see the weight loss taper off if you haven't reached your goal.

 

[Not_Your_Dad]

Data point for you - Ipa saturates out around 150-200 mcg. I ran a CJC1295/Ipa blend and I really wish I would have got them separately. I'll do another cycle of CJC and Ipa, but I'll buy individually and recon 5:1 or 10:1 CJC:Ipa

 

[DjJoshua]

My first post out of the sandbox!!

52M and I let a lot of injuries and lazines push my weight from 195 - 240 since 2020. I see that there is another post about stacking but I wanted to go into more details and chart some progress for anyone who is interested. My goal is to reduce weight to 190 and then recomp back up to 200.

I begin this new journey with 1 week of clean whole food eating just to prove to myself that I could formulate a nutrition plan, that the GLp1s would just be a tool and I would be doing the heaving lifting. The week of Nov 9th I meal prepped and ate 1400 calories a day, with each meal being protein forward. For the sake of tracking I called this week 0. Let me give my chart.

Week 0 (11/9): 238

Week 1 (11/16): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 2.5 - Weight 234.8

Week 2 (11/23): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 2.5 - Weight 227.5

Week 3 (11/30): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 3.0 - Weight 225.4

Week 4 (12/07): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 1.5 - Weight 222.1

Week 5 (12/14): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 1.5 - Weight 218.7

Week 6 (12/21): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 216.3

Week 7 (12/28): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 7.5 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 213.6

Week 8 (01/04): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 7.5 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 210.6

Week 9 (01/11): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 2.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F - Weight 208.4

Planned Titration:

Week 10 (11/18): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 11 (11/25): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 12 (02/01): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 13 (02/08): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 14 (02/15): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 15 (02/22): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Negatives:

* Week 2: Constipation, almost nothing moved for 8 days.

* Weeks 7 and 8: had severe diarrhea for 48 hours 24hrs after taking Tirz (like I could not leave 5 feet away from the bathroom, thank goodness for my bidet)

* I get a very weak headache that lasts until midday the day after taking Reta

* Decreased libido, Test came back normal for my age but I know there is a difference that I can pinpoint to the time I've been pinning myself.

Positives:

* no nausea

* no food noise (though I never had it prior)

* killed my desire to have a night cap or drink socially

Interesting:

* still getting normal hunger but nothing that is driving me to eat. This has only been occuring since week 8.

* energy is much higher now

* sleep improved slightly

* I sometimes feel a lack of motivation to get things done and have to focus on snapping out of it.

Final Thoughts:

I have not had and severe complications from stacking the two GLP1s, I actually think they are working synergically together. I know that my body does not like me going above 5 Tirz (I may be a super responder to it) but has had not problem tolerating Reta. If you're on the fence (BTW I'm not a doctor or a researcher other than conducting my own research) try it but don't jump in the deep in right away.

Go ahead and ask me any question you want.

Great progress !!!!

29.6 lbs down from 238 to 208.4 in ~9 weeks is impressive (averaging ~3.3 lbs/week), especially stacking Tirz + Reta + adding CJC/IPA for that extra edge. Solid call on capping Tirz at 5 mg if higher doses hit you hard ( diarrhea sounds rough—common super-responder pattern). Reta seems to tolerate well and synergize nicely without major GI blowups , which tracks with user reports on the combo (stronger appetite/metabolic push, but watch for cumulative sides like the headaches). The libido dip is a noted thing with GLP-1/GIP/glucagon agonists (including Reta) some folks pin it to rapid fat loss/hormonal shifts or energy redirection, even with normal test levels. Energy/sleep upticks are huge wins, though. Keep crushing it your planned titration looks measured. Curious how the CJC/IPA feels long-term for muscle preservation/motivation. Stay hydrated, maybe add electrolytes/fiber for any lingering gut tweaks.

 

[肽堆叠器]

Data point for you - Ipa saturates out around 150-200 mcg. I ran a CJC1295/Ipa blend and I really wish I would have got them separately. I'll do another cycle of CJC and Ipa, but I'll buy individually and recon 5:1 or 10:1 CJC:Ipa

Thanks,

Why run them separately, my reseach shows that they worked extremely well in a blend where as other things worked well taken together but not in a Blend (BPC157/TB).

 

[肽堆叠器]

Great progress !!!!

29.6 lbs down from 238 to 208.4 in ~9 weeks is impressive (averaging ~3.3 lbs/week), especially stacking Tirz + Reta + adding CJC/IPA for that extra edge. Solid call on capping Tirz at 5 mg if higher doses hit you hard ( diarrhea sounds rough—common super-responder pattern). Reta seems to tolerate well and synergize nicely without major GI blowups , which tracks with user reports on the combo (stronger appetite/metabolic push, but watch for cumulative sides like the headaches). The libido dip is a noted thing with GLP-1/GIP/glucagon agonists (including Reta) some folks pin it to rapid fat loss/hormonal shifts or energy redirection, even with normal test levels. Energy/sleep upticks are huge wins, though. Keep crushing it your planned titration looks measured. Curious how the CJC/IPA feels long-term for muscle preservation/motivation. Stay hydrated, maybe add electrolytes/fiber for any lingering gut tweaks.

From Day 1, Reta gave me a low low grade headache, I mean a 1 out of 10 on the scale that lasts from when I wake up until around noon. I mean it is every time, that's how I know its working

The CJC/IPA addition was more for my sleep and especially deeper sleep and better recovery. I'm still crushing my workouts in the Gym but I've gone from 5.5-6 hrs a night to 7-8 hrs, with deep sleep going from 30mins avg to 45 min avg.

My 77 day avg is:

1439 cals

186 protein

117 carbs

37 fat

29 fiber

103 Water/Hydration

 

[DjJoshua]

From Day 1, Reta gave me a low low grade headache, I mean a 1 out of 10 on the scale that lasts from when I wake up until around noon. I mean it is every time, that's how I know its working

The CJC/IPA addition was more for my sleep and especially deeper sleep and better recovery. I'm still crushing my workouts in the Gym but I've gone from 5.5-6 hrs a night to 7-8 hrs, with deep sleep going from 30mins avg to 45 min avg.

My 77 day avg is:

1439 cals

186 protein

117 carbs

37 fat

29 fiber

103 Water/Hydration

Nice!! Those consistent low-grade Reta headaches (1/10, gone by noon) are a classic sign it's hitting the glucagon receptors hard, and yeah, that's basically the " it's working " signal for a lot of people on it. Big win on the sleep/recovery jump from CJC/IPA: +1.5–2 hrs total sleep and +50% deep sleep is huge at your age/dose stack. That deeper recovery is probably why you're still smashing workouts without crashing

 

[肽堆叠器]

Thanks for the heads up about the headaches and other tidbits. It’s been an easy trip and I’m enjoying the ride.

 

[Not_Your_Dad]

Thanks,

Why run them separately, my reseach shows that they worked extremely well in a blend where as other things worked well taken together but not in a Blend (BPC157/TB).

I'll buy separately next time because I want a closer control over the dose. I'm aiming for CJC1295 in the 1 mg range and Ipa 100-150. The blends I was able to find (at least when I looked last time) are 1:1, and that will be way too much Ipa for the CJC dose I'm after.

 

[kittenkat2025]

From Day 1, Reta gave me a low low grade headache, I mean a 1 out of 10 on the scale that lasts from when I wake up until around noon. I mean it is every time, that's how I know its working

The CJC/IPA addition was more for my sleep and especially deeper sleep and better recovery. I'm still crushing my workouts in the Gym but I've gone from 5.5-6 hrs a night to 7-8 hrs, with deep sleep going from 30mins avg to 45 min avg.

My 77 day avg is:

1439 cals

186 protein

117 carbs

37 fat

29 fiber

103 Water/Hydration

I noticed a huge improvement in my sleep on cjc/ipa. Its become a staple on my stack, I was sleeping horribly before this and it was really effecting me. I was on Tirzepatide at the time, sema before thanz but with cjc/ipa added on my fatigue is all but gone. The sleep is a blessing.

 

[肽堆叠器]

My first post out of the sandbox!!

52M and I let a lot of injuries and lazines push my weight from 195 - 240 since 2020. I see that there is another post about stacking but I wanted to go into more details and chart some progress for anyone who is interested. My goal is to reduce weight to 190 and then recomp back up to 200.

I begin this new journey with 1 week of clean whole food eating just to prove to myself that I could formulate a nutrition plan, that the GLp1s would just be a tool and I would be doing the heaving lifting. The week of Nov 9th I meal prepped and ate 1400 calories a day, with each meal being protein forward. For the sake of tracking I called this week 0. Let me give my chart.

Week 0 (11/9): 238

Week 1 (11/16): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 2.5 - Weight 234.8

Week 2 (11/23): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 2.5 - Weight 227.5

Week 3 (11/30): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 3.0 - Weight 225.4

Week 4 (12/07): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 1.5 - Weight 222.1

Week 5 (12/14): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 1.5 - Weight 218.7

Week 6 (12/21): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 216.3

Week 7 (12/28): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 7.5 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 213.6

Week 8 (01/04): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 7.5 & Reta Dose 2.0 - Weight 210.6

Week 9 (01/11): Compounded Tirz/L-Car Dose 5.0 & Reta Dose 2.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F - Weight 208.4

Planned Titration:

Week 10 (11/18): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 11 (11/25): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 12 (02/01): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 13 (02/08): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 14 (02/15): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Week 15 (02/22): Tirz 5.0 & Reta Dose 3.0 & CJC/IPA Dose 250mcg M-F

Negatives:

* Week 2: Constipation, almost nothing moved for 8 days.

* Weeks 7 and 8: had severe diarrhea for 48 hours 24hrs after taking Tirz (like I could not leave 5 feet away from the bathroom, thank goodness for my bidet)

* I get a very weak headache that lasts until midday the day after taking Reta

* Decreased libido, Test came back normal for my age but I know there is a difference that I can pinpoint to the time I've been pinning myself.

Positives:

* no nausea

* no food noise (though I never had it prior)

* killed my desire to have a night cap or drink socially

Interesting:

* still getting normal hunger but nothing that is driving me to eat. This has only been occuring since week 8.

* energy is much higher now

* sleep improved slightly

* I sometimes feel a lack of motivation to get things done and have to focus on snapping out of it.

Final Thoughts:

I have not had and severe complications from stacking the two GLP1s, I actually think they are working synergically together. I know that my body does not like me going above 5 Tirz (I may be a super responder to it) but has had not problem tolerating Reta. If you're on the fence (BTW I'm not a doctor or a researcher other than conducting my own research) try it but don't jump in the deep in right away.

Go ahead and ask me any question you want.

So the scale has slowed down this week as I started transitioning to muscle building and shifting into recomp. I’m 7-12 lbs off goal weight so I’ve upped my calories, added in muscle building peptides and creatine.

I plan to reduce tirz to 3 and increase Reta to 4 in the coming weeks.

Some photos showing how effective the combo has been in a short amount of time.

 

[Pablito]

Interested in what motivated you to stack?

 

[肽堆叠器]

I noticed a huge improvement in my sleep on cjc/ipa. Its become a staple on my stack, I was sleeping horribly before this and it was really effecting me. I was on Tirzepatide at the time, sema before thanz but with cjc/ipa added on my fatigue is all but gone. The sleep is a blessing.

Yeah I’ve been a a short sleeper my adult life, so this is new for me to get the recommended amount.