DSIP

[CariocaLeftSeoul]

I'm one of the unlucky ones that sadly doesn't work for me, but I am stubborn so I still take it. I've tried from 100mcg-2mg and no difference on my deep sleep or sleep in general. Been doing for 12 weeks and no change. I think now I take 1mg/night. I still haven't given up, and hoping one day my body finally embraces it and settles the eff down. My deep sleep ranges from 20-40 min nightly, with and without DSIP

 

[birdwhacker]

Update:

Received DSIP instead of KPV due to a vendor error, obviously I tried it that night.

Used 600mcg after lights out, book down, and resting for a while. Within ten minutes of injection I felt a distinct change in my headspace and felt dreamy and unfocused, not sleepy per se but a noticable step in the right direction.

However, I had had 30mg of caffeine earlier in the day (i am sensitive to it) and I was afraid I wouldn't be able to asleep (morning engagement the next day) so I got up and took a benadryl and a melatonin.

The process of falling asleep felt different than usual and I felt the process was well improved. I didn't wake much during the night (i normally wake up when the benadryl wears off around 4am). I think I will like this compound very much.

I'm excited to try it without the benadryl and melatonin.

 

[miameow]

I've used it at the same time with Epithalon. Absolutely magnificent. My deep sleep and length of sleep changed significantly. I used both as intranasal sprays

I'm curious about your experience. I'm a chronic insomniac and I've started epitalon (5mg) a few days ago, which seems to have messed up my sleep. I'm back to waking up at 3am and I'm getting 6hrs as opposed to 8hrs now. I've never been on dsip and was doing ok on mag gly and melatonin until I introduced epi.

Do you attribute the improvement in quality and length of your sleep more to dsip or epitalon? Considering powering through the full 20day epi cycle then trying out dsip.

 

[laansasa]

I'm curious about your experience. I'm a chronic insomniac and I've started epitalon (5mg) a few days ago, which seems to have messed up my sleep. I'm back to waking up at 3am and I'm getting 6hrs as opposed to 8hrs now. I've never been on dsip and was doing ok on mag gly and melatonin until I introduced epi.

Do you attribute the improvement in quality and length of your sleep more to dsip or epitalon? Considering powering through the full 20day epi cycle then trying out dsip.

Oof! I also suffered from epitalon. I found some instructions on intransal buried in this forum and gave it a go. My gosh! I slept nothing that night! My mix was 500 mcg per spray and I did 2 sprays for a total of 1 mg - big mistake! I read elsewhere to do 200 mcg earlier (4-6 hours before bedtime) but I haven't gotten the courage to possibly relive my "up all night" shenanigans...

I do love DSIP, though. I'm a night owl who can't naturally fall asleep and went from 2 doxylamines per night to half or none. I still take like 6 other supplements for sleep, though - but those I had been doing for years and still used to need OTC meds.

 

[Jfrick11]

I'm curious about your experience. I'm a chronic insomniac and I've started epitalon (5mg) a few days ago, which seems to have messed up my sleep. I'm back to waking up at 3am and I'm getting 6hrs as opposed to 8hrs now. I've never been on dsip and was doing ok on mag gly and melatonin until I introduced epi.

Do you attribute the improvement in quality and length of your sleep more to dsip or epitalon? Considering powering through the full 20day epi cycle then trying out dsip.

I can't say bc I ran them together... But I can say I started too high on Epitalon and felt crappy. When I scaled down to 1mg qd, things got so much better.

 

[DragonOfTheSea]

I'm curious about your experience. I'm a chronic insomniac and I've started epitalon (5mg) a few days ago, which seems to have messed up my sleep. I'm back to waking up at 3am and I'm getting 6hrs as opposed to 8hrs now. I've never been on dsip and was doing ok on mag gly and melatonin until I introduced epi.

Do you attribute the improvement in quality and length of your sleep more to dsip or epitalon? Considering powering through the full 20day epi cycle then trying out dsip.

The synergy of Epithalon and DSIP together, for most, increases each of their efficacy, independently there are many mixed experiences but generally speaking, Epithalon has a higher rate of notable effect than DSIP from what I've read, but even for those that DSIP didn't work for alone, found it helpful after stacking Epi.

Also, that's a very high starting dosage, maybe try dialing that back, like by more than 10x...

Most people start in the .mcg range.

 

[woundcarping]

I have some being delivered Monday, I should have epithalon soon as well.

I sleep decently overall, better lately, but interesting in checking them out.

...but even for those that DSIP didn't work for alone, found it helpful after stacking Epi...

I gave DSIP a whirl last week... planned on going a full week but quit after 5 nights.

I took .165mg the first 3 nights, .33mg the next two.

I seemed to dream more/remember my dreams more when I woke up. Otherwise I went from no sleep debt to nearly 5 hours of sleep debt... not impressed at all about DSIP.

I'm giving Epitalon a whirl, since I have DSIP still, I may see if a stack has a meaningful effect, but I'm not going to DSIP much of an additional chance.

 

[miameow]

The synergy of Epithalon and DSIP together, for most, increases each of their efficacy, independently there are many mixed experiences but generally speaking, Epithalon has a higher rate of notable effect than DSIP from what I've read, but even for those that DSIP didn't work for alone, found it helpful after stacking Epi.

Also, that's a very high starting dosage, maybe try dialing that back, like by more than 10x...

Most people start in the .mcg range.

I have actually switched to morning shots and am back to sleeping normally, perhaps slightly better, even. It seems I am missing out on the dsip epi synergy! I'll have to run dsip separately, as I'll be done with my epi cycle by the time I get my hands on dsip, but thanks for the advice.

I think whether 5mg epi/day is a low or high dose is up for debate? I kind of like living life on the edge and will continue here for the next 15 days to finish this cycle. If I survive, I am going to run 10mg in my next cycle.

 

[DragonOfTheSea]

I have actually switched to morning shots and am back to sleeping normally, perhaps slightly better, even. It seems I am missing out on the dsip epi synergy! I'll have to run dsip separately, as I'll be done with my epi cycle by the time I get my hands on dsip, but thanks for the advice.

I think whether 5mg epi/day is a low or high dose is up for debate? I kind of like living life on the edge and will continue here for the next 15 days to finish this cycle. If I survive, I am going to run 10mg in my next cycle.

I continue to find it interesting how varied people's effective protocols are for these.. I'm glad you've been able to dial in morning doses for efficacy, seen that being the solution for a number people. Hopefully the DSIP shows up close to the end of your Epi cycle- many find that even if not stacked simultaneously, Running an Epic cycle immediately before DSIP still increases it's effectiveness.

Dosage is absolutely always up for debate! I've seen quite a wide effective range from 200mcg to 10mg. My only point was that starting at 5mg is leaving a lot of unknown in exploring what will or won't work for an individual. My brain says working up is more logical than working down, or not knowing whether one should go up or down.

 

[woundcarping]

I'm giving Epitalon a whirl, since I have DSIP still, I may see if a stack has a meaningful effect, but I'm not going to DSIP much of an additional chance.

I stacked last night, sleep was ok... the breakdown (which I'm generally dubious of) showed deep sleep wasn't as good as normal. I'll run it again tonight.

I have 50mg vials of Epi, running 2mg for 25 days is the theory to consume a vial. I am open to the idea that a lower dose may be more effective, but that's not usually the case. I took .33mg of DSIP last night for the stack.

 

[DragonOfTheSea]

I stacked last night, sleep was ok... the breakdown (which I'm generally dubious of) showed deep sleep wasn't as good as normal. I'll run it again tonight.

I have 50mg vials of Epi, running 2mg for 25 days is the theory to consume a vial. I am open to the idea that a lower dose may be more effective, but that's not usually the case. I took .33mg of DSIP last night for the stack.

.3 DSIP is where I would start

I hope it turns around for you.. deep sleep decreasing does not seem very common.

 

[woundcarping]

.3 DSIP is where I would start

I hope it turns around for you.. deep sleep decreasing does not seem very common.

Where you would start?

I read .1-.3mg. I'm fine with pinning whatever if it's effective, no sides, and no physical downsides.

 

[DragonOfTheSea]

Where you would start?

I read .1-.3mg. I'm fine with pinning whatever if it's effective, no sides, and no physical downsides.

Yeah, I was just saying that where you started is a grounded and agreeable dose.

 

[woundcarping]

Yeah, I was just saying that where you started is a grounded and agreeable dose.

Ah, I didn't know if you were implying a higher max dose was something you'd seen/experienced... if so I'm all ears.

I figured my 2mg Epi dose was a pseudo middle ground between the 5-10mg crowd and the mcg crowd. I couldn't find adverse effects from the higher doses, so I figured make a single vial last the duration.

 

[MTSpace]

Does anyone have real time experience with DSIP. I usually don’t get more than 4-5 hours sleep as it is and have just heard of DSIP. I guess there really is a peptide for everything. Anyone with positive reviews , and is there any side effects to be aware of especially if Reta and Tesamorelin is also being used?

I only take once or twice a week on nights where my mind is racing but I know I need the sleep. Lack of quality sleep has been an issue for me over last 3-4 years.

Not sure if it is placebo or real (I believe it is real), but at 250-300mcg it does seem to give me better sleep without the drowsiness the next day. I suffer from the “wired but tired” feeling and especially before I have to be up early to catch a plane or travel. Unlike pills of melatonin or sleep aids, once I wake up from using DISP, even if after a few hours, I seem to not get that groggy feeling. I used it last night and slept 6 hours but it felt like I slept 8 hours and upon waking I am mentally alert and ready to start the day.

 

[Johnny D]

Got a 10ml bottle and I plan on trying it this week.

Will report back ITT

 

[nnnnnaaaaa]

Got a 10ml bottle and I plan on trying it this week.

Will report back ITT

let us know! I'm about to get one

 

[Johnny D]

let us know! I'm about to get one

I'm taking it tonight, so I'll post my review firs thing in the morning

 

[hansie]

trying my first vial tonight! hope it goes well cause i slept like crap last night

 

[Johnny D]

Tried it last night. I took 150 micrograms injectable.

Slept a bit deeper, but not by much.

Also felt dizzy 30 minutes after taking it.

For better sleep I prefer to take 25mg of doxylamine (for sale on Ebay) + 10mg of melatonin.

That for me works much better than DSIP. Its cheaper too in the long run