I sort of fell down an AI-research rabbit hole earlier looking into storage requirements for different peptides, and was surprised to find how fragile many of them are. This especially seems to apply some of the ones that people have reported vastly different outcomes with, such as MOTS-C and NAD+, to the point I'm wondering if the way that people have been storing and drawing them are responsible for a large part of the differentiation. It sounds like there's a good chance that people could've been injecting doses that had significantly degraded; I know that had I not found this information, and performed my draws the same way I do with Reta, I would've lost most or all of the potency of the other ones. A summary of what I found:
- MOTS-C, NAD+, HGH, and AOD 9064 are all EXTREMELY light and temperature sensitive, and begin to degrade almost immediately after being taken out of the refrigerator. They have a cumulative degradation profile where every minute they spend above 46 degrees Fahrenheit shortens their lifespan, and this adds up over repeated draws, they do not reset once they are placed back in the fridge. They are so sensitive that recommended procedure involved not placing them on the sink counter under light even to draw; leave them in the case until the last minute and place them on a chilled surface if they are out of the box. The second the dose is drawn from the vials, it was suggested to immediately return the vial to the fridge, even before prepping the injection site or injecting. It was also recommended to hold the vials by the plastic cap or top rim to draw, and not the body of the vial to avoid warming it with your body temp. This was also said to be true to a slightly lesser degree of DSIP and Sermorelin.
- MOTS-C, NAD+, HGH, AOD 9064, SS-31, and Tesamorelin are all recommended as mandatory passive-draws because of the different negative effects introducing oxygen can have on them. Passive draw meaning, that it was saying you should NOT draw air into the syringe and push it into the vial to draw, just rely on the slower vacuum process to draw the dose. This is a slight conflict with the ones above where time is of the essence in returning them to their refrigerated state, but it was said the extra few seconds for the passive draw were still necessary for those. GHK-CU, CJC-1295, GHRP-2, LL-37, and Sermorelin are also recommended for passive draws because they are subject to foaming that will reduce potency over 2-4 weeks, though not the immediate damage of the others.
- MOTS-C, NAD+, HGH, AOD 9064, and Tesamorelin are all EXTREMELY sensitive to vibration, to the point it was recommended that the syringe should never be flicked or even tapped to remove bubbles after drawing. CJC-1295 and Sermorelin were said to be sensitive as well, but to a lesser degree where they should not be flicked repeatedly or aggressively.
I haven't started most of these myself, luckily, because I haven't been taking ANY of these precautions lol. Other than the gradual loss of potency from not passive-drawing my GHRP-2 and Sermorelin though there hasn't been a chance for me to suffer much loss because of it. Curious whether anyone who has experienced a lack of positive outcome from any of the others thinks that it could've been explained by their drawing or storage processes? It would be anecdotal of course but still would be interesting to hear if anybody who didn't get the results they were looking for with any of the more fragile ones gave it another shot following these recommendations and then had a different experience.
- MOTS-C, NAD+, HGH, and AOD 9064 are all EXTREMELY light and temperature sensitive, and begin to degrade almost immediately after being taken out of the refrigerator. They have a cumulative degradation profile where every minute they spend above 46 degrees Fahrenheit shortens their lifespan, and this adds up over repeated draws, they do not reset once they are placed back in the fridge. They are so sensitive that recommended procedure involved not placing them on the sink counter under light even to draw; leave them in the case until the last minute and place them on a chilled surface if they are out of the box. The second the dose is drawn from the vials, it was suggested to immediately return the vial to the fridge, even before prepping the injection site or injecting. It was also recommended to hold the vials by the plastic cap or top rim to draw, and not the body of the vial to avoid warming it with your body temp. This was also said to be true to a slightly lesser degree of DSIP and Sermorelin.
- MOTS-C, NAD+, HGH, AOD 9064, SS-31, and Tesamorelin are all recommended as mandatory passive-draws because of the different negative effects introducing oxygen can have on them. Passive draw meaning, that it was saying you should NOT draw air into the syringe and push it into the vial to draw, just rely on the slower vacuum process to draw the dose. This is a slight conflict with the ones above where time is of the essence in returning them to their refrigerated state, but it was said the extra few seconds for the passive draw were still necessary for those. GHK-CU, CJC-1295, GHRP-2, LL-37, and Sermorelin are also recommended for passive draws because they are subject to foaming that will reduce potency over 2-4 weeks, though not the immediate damage of the others.
- MOTS-C, NAD+, HGH, AOD 9064, and Tesamorelin are all EXTREMELY sensitive to vibration, to the point it was recommended that the syringe should never be flicked or even tapped to remove bubbles after drawing. CJC-1295 and Sermorelin were said to be sensitive as well, but to a lesser degree where they should not be flicked repeatedly or aggressively.
I haven't started most of these myself, luckily, because I haven't been taking ANY of these precautions lol. Other than the gradual loss of potency from not passive-drawing my GHRP-2 and Sermorelin though there hasn't been a chance for me to suffer much loss because of it. Curious whether anyone who has experienced a lack of positive outcome from any of the others thinks that it could've been explained by their drawing or storage processes? It would be anecdotal of course but still would be interesting to hear if anybody who didn't get the results they were looking for with any of the more fragile ones gave it another shot following these recommendations and then had a different experience.
