Dr. Oz Claims Cheaper GLP-1s and FDA-Approved Pill Are on the Way

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I’m glad to see the price come down. But I plan to stick to gray at $20 a month versus $300+ for script shots at max dose. When I started Sema I wanted a pill so bad. I was scared of giving myself a shot. But now the pill seems like a bother. Have to be fasting, only four ounces of water, wait 30 minutes. Now I prefer a quick simple once weekly shot.
 
"He said that we’re going to take the prices of these d***s, which are now prohibitively high for many Americans, $1,200 cash pay. It’s going to be a starting price of around $200."

"And here’s the good news. Every Medicare patient gets it for $50 co-pay. Every Medicaid patient gets it for nothing.”

Why shouldn't every patient get it for $50 co-pay or less? This may address the issue for those on Medicare or Medicaid, but what about the rest of us who have employer sponsored health insurance that do not cover GLP-1s at all? Why should we have to pay a starting price of $200? The fix needs to happen with Big Pharma and insurance.
 
New2ton said:
"He said that we’re going to take the prices of these d***s, which are now prohibitively high for many Americans, $1,200 cash pay. It’s going to be a starting price of around $200."

"And here’s the good news. Every Medicare patient gets it for $50 co-pay. Every Medicaid patient gets it for nothing.”

Why shouldn't every patient get it for $50 co-pay or less? This may address the issue for those on Medicare or Medicaid, but what about the rest of us who have employer sponsored health insurance that do not cover GLP-1s at all? Why should we have to pay a starting price of $200? The fix needs to happen with Big Pharma and insurance.
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“At that price, we will within two years return money to the American taxpayer.

This statement says it all. They are achieving these prices by subsidizing BP. And they're not going to get a return on the improved health of the whole population. Only the folks on government healthcare will save them the money they spend.
 
"They are achieving these prices by subsidizing BP."

That might hold water but I believe it is still a step in the right direction.
 
byefatlicia said:
But if insurance companies realize the savings potential of a healthier population, maybe we'll see them shift to a new way of thinking as well...

It's all about maximizing profit after all 😉
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I doubt I will see this happen in my lifetime, but there is always hope. I don't know the statistics on how many have turned to grey, but why wouldn't EL and NN want to re-capture that market share by making it affordable for everyone. For most households, even $200 a month is not affordable.
 
We won't see BP do anything that doesn't bring in more $$ for BP. When the patents eventually run out is when we will see price relief. Until then, buy a mini freezer and wait for "Bella" to have a huge sale with free shipping 🙂
 
byefatlicia said:
We won't see BP do anything that doesn't bring in more $$ for BP. When the patents eventually run out is when we will see price relief. Until then, buy a mini freezer and wait for "Bella" to have a huge sale with free shipping 🙂
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No doubt!!
 
New2ton said:
"He said that we’re going to take the prices of these d***s, which are now prohibitively high for many Americans, $1,200 cash pay. It’s going to be a starting price of around $200."

"And here’s the good news. Every Medicare patient gets it for $50 co-pay. Every Medicaid patient gets it for nothing.”

Why shouldn't every patient get it for $50 co-pay or less? This may address the issue for those on Medicare or Medicaid, but what about the rest of us who have employer sponsored health insurance that do not cover GLP-1s at all? Why should we have to pay a starting price of $200? The fix needs to happen with Big Pharma and insurance.
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Even a $50 co-pay is too much in my opinion considering what the insurance companies are being paid for the plans to begin with.
 
New2ton said:
but why wouldn't EL and NN want to re-capture that market share by making it affordable for everyone. For most households, even $200 a month is not affordable.
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I have wondered the same thing, as have many others here. But maybe most people with obesity (or history of) would not take it for life, even if free?

In any case, I think the drug companies always want a sure thing for maximum profits, so err on the side of charging more.
 
New2ton said:
Why shouldn't every patient get it for $50 co-pay or less? This may address the issue for those on Medicare or Medicaid, but what about the rest of us who have employer sponsored health insurance that do not cover GLP-1s at all?
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Because us working fools are paying for the Medicaid leeches to get their free and reduced everything. It’s their reward for existing.
 
AndyPanda said:
Because us working fools are paying for the Medicaid leeches to get their free and reduced everything. It’s their reward for existing.
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I'm not going to turn this into a debate, but I disagree that everyone on Medicaid is a leech. After losing my job and not immediately being able to find another job paying as much I had previously, it was necessary for me to apply for assistance for myself and my children. We received both SNAP and Medicaid AND at my new job I was working full time (10+ hours a day) at a very labor intensive job. Please don't make blanket statements that are inaccurate.
 
Nmcoyote1 said:
I’m glad to see the price come down. But I plan to stick to gray at $20 a month versus $300+ for script shots at max dose. When I started Sema I wanted a pill so bad. I was scared of giving myself a shot. But now the pill seems like a bother. Have to be fasting, only four ounces of water, wait 30 minutes. Now I prefer a quick simple once weekly shot.
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You get to where you enjoy it and look forward to it.... plus you bypass the liver initially so there's not another pill taxing it.
 
There is a Doctor (and his doctor brother) on YT who puts out regular videos on GLP topics. His name is Spencer Nadolsky. They posted a video 3 months ago with Dr. Sean Wharton, who was a co-author in one of the clinical trials. The most recent video was this past week where the 2 Docs discuss some things they are seeing now that they can prescribe it. Some of the clinical stuff is a bit over my head, but I did find it informative. If nothing else - thought this may be of interest to someone.

3 months ago -

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeB1KCcQwjg

recent -

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fP2rxoGoSk
 
Sounds too good to be true to just take a pill and have the same results as retatrutide, so ill just believe it when i see it
 
Zelmar702 said:
There is a Doctor (and his doctor brother) on YT who puts out regular videos on GLP topics. His name is Spencer Nadolsky. They posted a video 3 months ago with Dr. Sean Wharton, who was a co-author in one of the clinical trials. The most recent video was this past week where the 2 Docs discuss some things they are seeing now that they can prescribe it. Some of the clinical stuff is a bit over my head, but I did find it informative. If nothing else - thought this may be of interest to someone.

3 months ago -

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeB1KCcQwjg

recent -

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fP2rxoGoSk
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I have watched them in the past few weeks. But I found some of the conversation between the three doctors in one video interesting. I was surprised how the trial studies used the scattershot approach to dosing GLP-1’s because nobody has an idea what is possible. We see similar discusions on these type forums as to dosing scedules and stacking. There is still a lot we do not know about these peptides.
 
This escalated quickly.... everyone stay calm, Zipp will likely delete this thread as it's a politics aside forum. With that said what peptides do you recommend so my ex will stop calling me baby d$@& .... ?
 
Airborne Daddy said:
You get to where you enjoy it and look forward to it.... plus you bypass the liver initially so there's not another pill taxing it.
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I can totally get on board this AD.

Diabetics pin every day. If I'd have known how convenient it is to inject instead of taking pills. . . . There's just a finite level of injectables. The needle phobia is sad. There's hardly anyone at the blood drives anymore. Only us old hardcores. How can you be scared if you never try? How can you get over it, if you never try it?
 
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